Interesting read re. our deepest lake

Denis D · 05-05-2023, 12:13 PM

https://www.msn.com/en-us/weather/to...5335167&ei=143

ITD · 05-05-2023, 12:48 PM

Good read, but Newfound is listed in the article as the deepest lake in NH at 183 feet, Wiki lists Winnipesaukee at 212 feet. I wonder which is correct?

Senter Cove Guy · 05-05-2023, 01:24 PM

For years, the Green & White (The Duncan Fitchet) map of Lake Winnipesaukee listed the deepest point at 187 feet. Bizer, of course, lists it at 213 feet. I have personally scanned Winnipesaukee's deepest point at around 203 feet with a Humminbird scanner. All three of these readings obviously exceed the published depth of 183 feet in Newfound Lake.

John Mercier · 05-05-2023, 01:40 PM

Newfound is supposedly the cleanest... and still has the small lake vibe that Winnipesaukee is losing.

Descant · 05-05-2023, 03:19 PM

If I recall correctly, "Three Centuries on Winnipesaukee" relates 300' deep in Weirs Bay, suggesting that there is a hole of cantilevered ledges. Drop your lead line, jiggle over a few feet and it drops again. Rinse and repeat. Ledges and legends are in abundance around the lakes region. Maybe the Weirs hole is covered by debris from the Mount Washington, never to be found again ?

ishoot308 · 05-05-2023, 03:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Senter Cove Guy

For years, the Green & White (The Duncan Fitchet) map of Lake Winnipesaukee listed the deepest point at 187 feet. Bizer, of course, lists it at 213 feet. I have personally scanned Winnipesaukee's deepest point at around 203 feet with a Humminbird scanner. All three of these readings obviously exceed the published depth of 183 feet in Newfound Lake.

I concur with this as well. I too have trolled over the deepest point on numerous occasions and my sonar readings duplicate yours at just over 200’…

Dan

Cobalt 25 · 05-05-2023, 06:28 PM

I have measured what I believe to be the deepest point in the lake many times with my Garmin chartplotter. It has read from 201 to 204 consistently.

Along with info from the previous posts, I would be skeptical that 183' is deeper than Winni.

I, too, enjoyed the article (except for that)!

fatlazyless · 05-06-2023, 04:44 AM

Newfound Lake's deepest spot of 183' is close enough to the West Side Rd granite cliffs that you can cast a fishing line while standing on the roadside rocky embankment into the deep water.

There's one small parking spot, close by.

Directly behind the road and very close to the lake is a vertical granite cliff of maybe 200' height, or do.

Similar to Lake Winnipesaukee, Newfound Lake was created by building a dam across the outflow water in the early 1800's.

BroadHopper · 05-06-2023, 07:20 AM

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Originally Posted by John Mercier

Newfound is supposedly the cleanest... and still has the small lake vibe that Winnipesaukee is losing.

As Lake Winnipesaukee gets 'overdeveloped', people are looking at Winnisquam and Squam Lake. Real estate prices have skyrocketed on those two lakes.

Visit Thomson Lake in Maine. Reminds me of the lake back in the 50s.

John Mercier · 05-06-2023, 11:09 AM

I have seen it.
Newfound and Squam are now seeing owners that are willing to wait the six months for high end Signature Ultimate... even with the cost.

The east side of Winnipesaukee and Squam were historically the higher priced millwork requests... but now it seems to be spreading out. They are looking for traditional units that are unique in design.

WinnisquamZ · 05-06-2023, 12:39 PM

Signature Ultimate?

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John Mercier · 05-06-2023, 01:33 PM

Marvin Window product.
It allows for a lot of sizing and configuration options... but it takes a long time to get.

The Newfound and Winnisquam projects, that I have gotten recently, seem to be smaller cottages that the owners want a lot of detail.

WinnisquamZ · 05-06-2023, 01:43 PM

I know of four currently being built here on Winnisquam. And yes, they are of moderate size. And they each have outstanding views. Another property just went on the market. 950 sq feet and a bit over one acre for 2 million. Crazy number

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Bizer · 05-09-2023, 08:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Senter Cove Guy

For years, the Green & White (The Duncan Fitchet) map of Lake Winnipesaukee listed the deepest point at 187 feet. Bizer, of course, lists it at 213 feet. I have personally scanned Winnipesaukee's deepest point at around 203 feet with a Humminbird scanner. All three of these readings obviously exceed the published depth of 183 feet in Newfound Lake.

Bizer recorded a depth of 206 about 20 years ago. The "213" on Bizer's chart is based on input from Tom Wachsmuth at Dive Winnipesaukee in Wolfeboro.

skprbob · 05-09-2023, 02:09 PM

The Bizer chart reading of 213 is essentially correct. The location lies almost exactly on the course of the Mount Washington on her return from Wolfeboro to Weirs. I've driven over the spot several times in past years. The depth sounder shows a contour of a fairly smooth, deep bottom as one approaches the point, then a sharp dive into the hole, then a sharp rise coming out. I'm sure any other measurements would be welcome to check these results, so if you have a decent depth finder on your boat, try it.

Grant · 05-10-2023, 10:10 AM

This is a pretty cool resource, and a site where you can waste many hours.

https://webapp.navionics.com/?lang=e...y=ez~hGp%7BirL

Ever notice how deep the Finger Lakes in upstate New York are? Crazy!

Pricestavern · 05-12-2023, 02:19 AM

“ Similar to Lake Winnipesaukee, Newfound Lake was created by building a dam across the outflow water in the early 1800's.”

Not so. The lake was created thru erosion and then glacially and the water level remains close to the same as it was 50,000 years ago. The dam controls the flow of water out and the level of the lake (+/- a couple feet) but you’d still have the lake without the dam.

fatlazyless · 05-12-2023, 04:49 AM

At the southern end of Newfound Lake is the lake outflow, the Newfound River which is a fly-fishing only river plus it has a walking/bicycling trail that parallels the river as it flows down to Bristol, NH and into the Pemigewasset River. There's a concrete dam close to the start of the Newfound River and a second dam down closer to Bristol that can be seen from Route 3A.

The Newfound Lake Dam and the Lakeport Dam in Lakeport, Laconia are both controlled by the NH-DES and used to seasonally lower and raise the water levels on Newfound Lake and Lake Winnipesaukee. Without these two dams both Newfound Lake and Lake Winnipesaukee would still exist but at an unknown lower level.

dickiej · 05-12-2023, 09:32 AM

Went camping to Crater Lake last summer…1,900’ deep! Incredibly clear water…you can see bottom at 100’!

Grant · 05-12-2023, 09:59 AM

I've always wanted to dive Crater Lake for that very reason. I wonder if there are any groups that dive it regularly.

05-05-2023, 12:13 PM	#1
Denis D Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Posts: 50 Thanks: 5 Thanked 23 Times in 17 Posts	Interesting read re. our deepest lake https://www.msn.com/en-us/weather/to...5335167&ei=143 __________________ Denis in NJ

05-05-2023, 01:24 PM	#3
Senter Cove Guy Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 593 Thanks: 283 Thanked 427 Times in 139 Posts	Winnipesaukee Depth Scanning - Duncan, Bizer & Personal For years, the Green & White (The Duncan Fitchet) map of Lake Winnipesaukee listed the deepest point at 187 feet. Bizer, of course, lists it at 213 feet. I have personally scanned Winnipesaukee's deepest point at around 203 feet with a Humminbird scanner. All three of these readings obviously exceed the published depth of 183 feet in Newfound Lake. __________________ Lake Winni - The only place I want to be during the summer.

05-06-2023, 04:44 AM	#8
fatlazyless Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 8,525 Blog Entries: 1 Thanks: 295 Thanked 957 Times in 698 Posts	Newfound Lake's deepest spot of 183' is close enough to the West Side Rd granite cliffs that you can cast a fishing line while standing on the roadside rocky embankment into the deep water. There's one small parking spot, close by. Directly behind the road and very close to the lake is a vertical granite cliff of maybe 200' height, or do. Similar to Lake Winnipesaukee, Newfound Lake was created by building a dam across the outflow water in the early 1800's. __________________ ... down and out, liv'n that Walmart side of the lake!

05-06-2023, 01:43 PM	#13
WinnisquamZ Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2016 Posts: 1,888 Thanks: 192 Thanked 593 Times in 398 Posts	Interesting read re. our deepest lake I know of four currently being built here on Winnisquam. And yes, they are of moderate size. And they each have outstanding views. Another property just went on the market. 950 sq feet and a bit over one acre for 2 million. Crazy number Sent from my iPhone using Winnipesaukee Forum mobile app

05-09-2023, 02:09 PM	#15
skprbob Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: 19 Mile Bay Posts: 147 Thanks: 0 Thanked 90 Times in 29 Posts	depth The Bizer chart reading of 213 is essentially correct. The location lies almost exactly on the course of the Mount Washington on her return from Wolfeboro to Weirs. I've driven over the spot several times in past years. The depth sounder shows a contour of a fairly smooth, deep bottom as one approaches the point, then a sharp dive into the hole, then a sharp rise coming out. I'm sure any other measurements would be welcome to check these results, so if you have a decent depth finder on your boat, try it.

05-05-2023, 12:48 PM	#2
ITD Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Moultonboro, NH Posts: 2,860 Thanks: 461 Thanked 666 Times in 366 Posts	Good read, but Newfound is listed in the article as the deepest lake in NH at 183 feet, Wiki lists Winnipesaukee at 212 feet. I wonder which is correct?

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05-05-2023, 01:40 PM	#4
John Mercier Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2021 Posts: 2,971 Thanks: 2 Thanked 528 Times in 434 Posts	Newfound is supposedly the cleanest... and still has the small lake vibe that Winnipesaukee is losing.

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05-05-2023, 03:19 PM	#5
Descant Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Merrimack and Welch Island Posts: 4,028 Thanks: 1,208 Thanked 1,508 Times in 982 Posts	If I recall correctly, "Three Centuries on Winnipesaukee" relates 300' deep in Weirs Bay, suggesting that there is a hole of cantilevered ledges. Drop your lead line, jiggle over a few feet and it drops again. Rinse and repeat. Ledges and legends are in abundance around the lakes region. Maybe the Weirs hole is covered by debris from the Mount Washington, never to be found again ?

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05-05-2023, 06:28 PM	#7
Cobalt 25 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Cape Cod Posts: 213 Thanks: 219 Thanked 36 Times in 20 Posts	I have measured what I believe to be the deepest point in the lake many times with my Garmin chartplotter. It has read from 201 to 204 consistently. Along with info from the previous posts, I would be skeptical that 183' is deeper than Winni. I, too, enjoyed the article (except for that)!

05-06-2023, 11:09 AM	#10
John Mercier Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2021 Posts: 2,971 Thanks: 2 Thanked 528 Times in 434 Posts	I have seen it. Newfound and Squam are now seeing owners that are willing to wait the six months for high end Signature Ultimate... even with the cost. The east side of Winnipesaukee and Squam were historically the higher priced millwork requests... but now it seems to be spreading out. They are looking for traditional units that are unique in design.

05-06-2023, 12:39 PM	#11
WinnisquamZ Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2016 Posts: 1,888 Thanks: 192 Thanked 593 Times in 398 Posts	Signature Ultimate? Sent from my iPhone using Winnipesaukee Forum mobile app

05-06-2023, 01:33 PM	#12
John Mercier Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2021 Posts: 2,971 Thanks: 2 Thanked 528 Times in 434 Posts	Marvin Window product. It allows for a lot of sizing and configuration options... but it takes a long time to get. The Newfound and Winnisquam projects, that I have gotten recently, seem to be smaller cottages that the owners want a lot of detail.

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05-10-2023, 10:10 AM	#16
Grant Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Pennsyltuckey, Tuftonboro, Moultonborough Posts: 1,485 Thanks: 337 Thanked 212 Times in 116 Posts	This is a pretty cool resource, and a site where you can waste many hours. https://webapp.navionics.com/?lang=e...y=ez~hGp%7BirL Ever notice how deep the Finger Lakes in upstate New York are? Crazy! __________________ "When I die, please don't let my wife sell my dive gear for what I told her I paid for it."

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05-12-2023, 02:19 AM	#17
Pricestavern Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Valencia, Spain (formerly Rattlesnake Isle) Posts: 388 Thanks: 125 Thanked 142 Times in 82 Posts	Lake Formation “ Similar to Lake Winnipesaukee, Newfound Lake was created by building a dam across the outflow water in the early 1800's.” Not so. The lake was created thru erosion and then glacially and the water level remains close to the same as it was 50,000 years ago. The dam controls the flow of water out and the level of the lake (+/- a couple feet) but you’d still have the lake without the dam.

05-12-2023, 04:49 AM	#18
fatlazyless Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 8,525 Blog Entries: 1 Thanks: 295 Thanked 957 Times in 698 Posts	At the southern end of Newfound Lake is the lake outflow, the Newfound River which is a fly-fishing only river plus it has a walking/bicycling trail that parallels the river as it flows down to Bristol, NH and into the Pemigewasset River. There's a concrete dam close to the start of the Newfound River and a second dam down closer to Bristol that can be seen from Route 3A. The Newfound Lake Dam and the Lakeport Dam in Lakeport, Laconia are both controlled by the NH-DES and used to seasonally lower and raise the water levels on Newfound Lake and Lake Winnipesaukee. Without these two dams both Newfound Lake and Lake Winnipesaukee would still exist but at an unknown lower level. __________________ ... down and out, liv'n that Walmart side of the lake!

05-12-2023, 09:32 AM	#19
dickiej Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: White Salmon, WA Posts: 291 Thanks: 21 Thanked 165 Times in 90 Posts	Went camping to Crater Lake last summer…1,900’ deep! Incredibly clear water…you can see bottom at 100’!

05-12-2023, 09:59 AM	#20
Grant Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Pennsyltuckey, Tuftonboro, Moultonborough Posts: 1,485 Thanks: 337 Thanked 212 Times in 116 Posts	I've always wanted to dive Crater Lake for that very reason. I wonder if there are any groups that dive it regularly. __________________ "When I die, please don't let my wife sell my dive gear for what I told her I paid for it."

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