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07-11-2012, 01:08 AM | #1 |
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I live in Moultonborough and my television cable service is provided by Time Warner Cable. Negotiations between TimeWarner and Hearst Broadcasting have failed. We now no longer get ABC. Who knows if or when we will get it back??
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You're right Time Warner is now a big waste of money. First they lost WBZ 4, from Boston, then Channel 7 from Boston, and now WMUR 9 from NH, and Channel 8. AND Time Warner doesn't seem to even care! The only shows are continuous reruns of the same shows. No Red Sox, no local news, no local weather. I am going to start looking into some other type service. Any suggestions?
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NOTICE TO TIME WARNER CABLE SUBSCRIBERS:
Update as of July 10, 2012: Time Warner Cable, on behalf of itself and Bright House and Insight, for which it has negotiating authority, has terminated negotiations with our company, Hearst Television, for continued carriage of WMUR. Hearst has successfully concluded over 150 carriage agreements in recent months with other cable companies with no disruption of service to subscribers. This contrasts with Time Warner’s disruptions of service and withdrawal of carriage of local television stations in other cases. Time Warner Cable refuses to pay our station a reasonable fee relative to what it pays for other significantly less popular channels. Time Warner’s characterization of the percentage increase in carriage fees we are seeking is inaccurate. We have sought a reasonable increase consistent with the increased costs we have to pay for our highly valued programming and the carriage fees now paid to us by Time Warner’s competitors. The fees we are asking from Time Warner are based on the fees we are being paid by other cable companies under our recent deals, which is the real measure — not Time Warner’s exaggerated and distorted claims — of the fairness of our proposal. In fact, retransmission fees paid to stations are just 7 cents of every dollar of the total carriage fees paid to cable networks, which are less popular than local TV stations, according to recent independent research. We regret the inconvenience Time Warner Cable has imposed on its subscribers, and we will keep you fully informed of developments. Contrary to Time Warner’s claim, we have not “blacked out” our station. You may continue to receive our station for free, over the air, or by satellite from DirecTV or DISH, and, where available, from other cable operators. You can determine the type of antenna you will need to receive our signal at http://www.antennaweb.org/ Customer service numbers for other providers carrying our signal include the following: DIRECTV: 1-888-777-2454 DISH Network: 1-800-823-4929 Hearst Television, a national multi-media company, owns and operates 29 local television stations and two local radio stations, serving 30 U.S. cities and reaching approximately 18% of U.S. television households. The TV stations broadcast 60 video channels, featuring local and national news, weather, information, sports and entertainment programming, and local community service-oriented programs. The stations also host and operate digital on-line and mobile platforms that extend the company’s brands and content to local, national, and international audiences. Hearst Television is recognized as one of the industry’s premier companies, and has been honored with numerous awards for distinguished journalism, industry innovation, and community service. Hearst Television is a wholly owned subsidiary of Hearst Corporation. The Company’s Web address is www.hearsttelevision.com.
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If WMUR requires some kind of fee to broadcast, the subscribers to cable/satelite ultimately pays for it.
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For satellite TV.
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You can get channel 9 free with rabbit ears........no fee to anyone.just have to be in the right spot.
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Direct TV has soo much more going for it then cable TV. We have Dish at the camp and Direct at home, Direct is far superior to Dish in programs per cost. When we build our lake house we are going switch to direct.
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Loss of another channel but of course there won't be a reduction in the monthly bill. Probably a reason for another rate increase.
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Also - if one resides in Moultonborough and chooses to go with Dish or Direct TV, what does one do for internet? Fairpoint? Is that a reliable, cost-effective choice?
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You can get just internet through TW if you want. About $50/mo for the 20Mbps down/1Mbps up package.
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so, are 8 & 9 still gone from TW???
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Go to your selectmans,(Town Meetings) usually held every few weeks. VOICE your Dislike of TWC. Have them look into other providers. That is the best way to send the message I think.
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Yes. They have been replaced with the Hallmark movie channel. Still no ABC.
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To whom?
TW, who wants to increase their profit margin to get more of your $, or Hearst (WMUR) who wants to increase their profit margin to get more of your $? Both sides are trying to make the other look like the bad guy. One thing is for sure, the existing agreement will NOT be renewed. No matter how a new agreement plays out, the price will go up, and the consumer will get stuck with the bill. |
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On January 1, the locally owned Waterville Valley cable tv, SkiSat Cable, was sold to Time Warner. With the recent shut-off of channel 9-WMUR by Time Warner, Waterville Valley still gets local news from Vermont and Maine which are actually a lot better than WMUR ever was and done with less flash, but no New Hampshire local news....and no Tennis Channel........boo-hoo!
NECN probably has the best local news stuff anyway ......
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I agree with the first two sentences...perhaps as suggested above, it means a trip to a selectman's meeting.
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AND...as a special bonus...they apparently can't/don't/haven't figured out how to block all the digital TV channels if you are an internet-only customer. Our digital tuner TV still gets 6-8 channels...in both SD and HD. Not that I've watched any of them for more than an hour or so since we cut our TV service and went internet-only in 2010. YMMV... |
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internet options
We do not want TW and have Direct TV. We don't have or want a land phone line. Any suggestions for internet? I've tried Sprint and Verizon cell cards but so slow I couldn't get anything done. Any suggestions????
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FWIW - WMUR.com will let you watch the local news.
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The cable box is cable co property. It's a digital tuner *and* also does the premium channel decryption stuff and DVR, etc. It gives you the ability to convert the signal so you can connect to an old (analog) TV on channel 3, or using the red/white/yellow plugs, or using an HDMI cable to a newer TV, etc. The cable co likes those because they support all TV sets, but mostly because they bypass your TV's tuner so they have absolute control over what signals will get to your TV. Newer TV sets (basically everything that is a flat LCD screen) have built-in digital tuners. You can connect them to an antenna and get a digital SD or HD signal...if you're in the broadcast area...no cable required. Here's where the 'leak' comes in. With internet-only TW service, and a TV with a built-in digital tuner (and no cable box) I get the 6-8 channels by hooking the cable to the TV. (Ironically, I think the Hallmark movie channel is one of them) The digital TV signals are blocked for most channels, but some still leak through. If you actually pay for even basic cable, you'd get more channels. An analog TV will not work directly with broadcast (antenna) signals or the digital feed on the cable since the national cutover to digital signals a couple of years ago. You can however get digital converter boxes that are (NOT from the cable co) that will convert the broadcast digital signals to analog channel 3, or the red/white/yellow plugs. That will probably work to take advantage of the leak too. Probably more than you wanted to know... |
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About ready to switch to time Warner from direct tv basically to get broadband Internet. Hopefully the tv portion will have something to watch and Internet will work well
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I have TW for just the internet at $40/mo. and use ooma for unlimited phone @ less the $5/mo.
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Actually, not totally true in my case with Comcast anyway. Besides my hd box I have 2 of the small digital converter boxes that give me their70+/- channels. I also have 2 other analog(crt) tv's that I have connected to just the cable without any box. Its limited but I do get 2-23 which was Comcasts lowest level of basic. Btw channel 9 is one of them. fwiw
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Ah, I stand corrected. IF you subscribe to at least basic cable, they still send the 2-23 analog signals on the cable. If you don't get basic cable (like me) there's no analog signal, just the 'leaked' few digital channels.
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Comcast is available in Moultonborough?
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The cable coming into your house (or more technically from the pole to your house) is carrying ALL of the signals for your node (the subsection of the overall cable system you are on). On-demand movies and shows are really just channels that are created on-demand. If your neighbor is watching last week's episode of True Blood right now, that signal is also coming into your house. Usually if you are an Internet-only customer, or a basic-but-not-premium cable customer they install one or more filters on your line. A low-pass filter is common for Internet-only subscribers, it only passes the signals BELOW a set frequency, but it's not a perfect system, so there can be some "leakage" of the upper-frequency signals. The digital cable signals use a technology called QAM (Quadrature amplitude modulation). QAM signals can be encrypted, or they can be what is known as "clear QAM", digital signals with no encryption. Most modern TV's have digital tuners, which are clear-QAM tuners. In your case it sounds like a tech didn't install a filter or installed the wrong filter, or the filter is slightly out of spec. In any case, your TV is picking up some signal level that it is able to tune to. The nice thing about QAM, unlike analog signals, is that you can sometimes lock onto a lower-level signal and still get a good/usable channel image (the probably of that channel not containing total garbage in terms of the quality of the program is another issue altogether ). In the "olden days", like around the early 2000's, clear-QAM tuners were less common, and there was little or no encryption on the PPV/On-Demand channels. So, you could go hunting through the spectrum and stumble across on-demand shows that people were watching in your neighborhood, including watching them pause/rewind/fast-forward In many hotel TV systems this is still the case... If you travel you can get a clear-QAM USB tuner for your laptop and sometimes pickup some 'interesting' things being viewed by other hotel guests. If the hotel has the TV checkout system, you can sometimes also see people settle-up their bills on the morning they checkout.
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They have a bundling deal with local DSL providers, which can vary from crap to tolerable. Then there is satellite Internet which is about the most-expensive and least-satisfactory way to get on the Internet. It's slow, unreliable, frequently throttled, has horrible data caps, and just all-around sucks. A verizon/sprint/at&t card, even with a 1-bar EVDO/EDGE signal, is still going to be more enjoyable than satellite Internet.
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Yep, the filter is put on the pole before the wire goes to the house. I was simplifying a bit. If you're internet-only, they put on a filter that will block all the analog signals. (It still works reasonably well as an FM antenna with the right matching transformer though...go figure.)
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That explains why channel 97 on Metrocast sometimes shows a PPV movie. A neighbor ordered it and I can receive it. I'm supposed to have basic cable and with an analog tv that was what I got. Now with an HDTV I get the expanded basic but I had to figure out what the QAM equivalent of the analog channel, for instance SYFY channel 56 is 73.9 on the HDTV, WMUR-HD is 9.1
QAM channels is not always available, sometimes I get a 'No Signal' on my tv and sometimes I get a 'low signal'. I guess the HD converter box also boost the signal? WMUR TV closed captioned comes in beautifully on DIRECTV. It is garbled on Metrocast. I get 'pixeling' of the pictures on Metrocast. If you call Metrocast for help, they would give you the 'tech support' number. Hours of canned music recordings later, they would tell you to 'update the software on the tv'? A lame excuse if I ever heard one.
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Exactly. It makes me wonder why I get those. I'm guessing 2-23 are maybe broadcast analog? I have 3 tv's that are not digital and they all get these channels. And yes, channel 9 is one of them.
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As someone else mentioned - I wasn't sure if Comcast was even an option - in Moultonborough anyway... |
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Sorry if I mislead you.I am in Bedford NH.I was just responding to a post by Patman that stated no analog tv will work on cable now without a converter box.I have at least 2 that work fine.
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2-WGBH (PBS) Boston, MA 3-HBO 4-WBZ (CBS) Boston, MA 5-WCVB (ABC) Boston, MA 6-Waterville Valley TV 7-WHDH (NBC) Boston, MA 8-WSBK (MNTV) Boston, MA 9-WMUR (ABC) Manchester, NH 10-WBPX (ION) Boston, MA 11-WENH (PBS) Durham, NH 12-WFXT (FOX) Boston, MA 13-WLVI (CW) Boston, MA 14-CNN 15-Headline News 16-Fox News Channel 17-CNBC 18-The Weather Channel 19-C-SPAN 20-WGME (CBS) Portland, ME 21-WBIN (IND) Derry, NH 22-TV Guide Network 23-Cartoon Network 24-USA Network 25-TBS 26-TNT 27-ESPN 28-ESPN2 29-Versus 30-New England Sports Network 31-Comcast SportsNet New England 32-MSNBC 33-Disney Channel 34-ABC Family 35-Nickelodeon 36-Comedy Central 37-VH1 38-MTV 39-Lifetime 40-A&E 41-AMC 42-HGTV 43-Food Network 44-Discovery Channel 45-TLC 46-History Channel 47-Travel 48-National Geographic 49-Animal Planet 50-TruTV 54-LMN 55-C-SPAN2 56-QVC 57-ShopNBC 58-Camera 59-MSNBC I'm not kidding here, they had EVERY station from Boston-Manchester plus 1 station from Portland on the lineup including my favorite station WGBH-TV Channel 2 PBS In Boston, they never offed any stations from Burlington, although they did have WNNE sometime in the 1990's though, the only way people could get stations out of Burlington was by sattelite dish. But now that Time Warner of Plymouth has bought the locally owned cable company Skisat in which they bought it around Sep-Oct 2011, this is what their lineup consists of now as of January 1, 2012: 1-EWTN 2-WVTA (PBS) Windsor, VT 3-Waterville Valley TV 4-WFFF (FOX) Burlington, VT 5-WBZ (CBS) Boston, MA 7-WHDH (NBC) Boston, MA 8-WVNY (ABC) Burlington, VT 9-WMUR (ABC) Manchester, NH 10-WNNE (NBC) Hartford, VT 11-WENH (PBS) Durham, NH 12-QVC 13-WCAX (CBS) Burlington, VT 14-WFFF (CW) Burlington, VT 15-C-SPAN 16-C-SPAN2 17-HSN 18-ION Television 19-NECN 20-Local Access 21-TWC TV 22-Local Access 24-CNN 25-HLN 26-CNBC 27-MSNBC 28-FOX News Channel 29-The Weather Channel 30-TCM 31-ESPN 32-ESPN2 33-Comcast SportsNet 34-NESN 35-AMC 36-Bravo 37-TV Guide 38-EWTN 39-Oxygen 41-TV Land 43-Nickelodeon 44-Cartoon Network 45-ABC Family 46-Disney Channel 47-TBS 48-USA Network 49-TNT 51-SyFy 52-FX 53-TLC 54-History 55-Discovery Channel 56-HGTV 57-Food Network 58-Animal Planet 59-Hallmark 61-Spike 62-E! 63-MTV 64-VH1 65-CMT 66-GAC 67-Comedy Central 69-A&E 70-Lifetime 74-Travel Channel 75-TruTV 79-Jewelry TV 81-TV Guide 99-EWTN I just can't believe they got rid of every TV Station from Boston from their lineup except for WBZ & WHDH and replaced them with Burlington stations, at least they brought back WNNE to Waterville Valley, if only Time Warner had not bought Skisat in the 1st place then they would've still had ALL the stations from Boston and still not get any stations from Burlington for a little bit longer, and WMUR would've still been on the lineup if Time Warner did not buy Skisat, but they just had to, and it sucks now dosen't it? Last edited by Mike123; 09-22-2012 at 04:24 PM. Reason: forgot to add purchase date of Skisat, forgot to mention return of WNNE, and mention 2 remaining Boston Channels |
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