Go Back   Winnipesaukee Forum > Winnipesaukee Forums > Boating
Home Forums Gallery YouTube Channel Classifieds Links Blogs Calendar Register FAQDonate Members List Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 05-06-2018, 09:24 AM   #1
Cal Coon
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2018
Location: Lakes Region
Posts: 14
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default Alton Bay boat ramp

I see an excavator and the start of some sort of construction (hay bales), going on at the boat ramp formerly known as Downing's Landing in Alton Bay. I have heard in the past that the state has "big plans" to renovate that ramp, which is in desperate need, but I didn't think it was going to start this soon. I know they already laid new concrete pads for the actual ramp itself, but I was told by a F&G officer that there were big plans for the docks (and an out building) as well. I was told last summer it was going to take a few years for the state to come up with the money... Does anyone have any knowledge as to what is going on with it?

Last edited by Cal Coon; 05-07-2018 at 03:32 PM.
Cal Coon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-06-2018, 12:10 PM   #2
upthesaukee
Senior Member
 
upthesaukee's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Alton Bay
Posts: 4,411
Thanks: 1,236
Thanked 1,281 Times in 688 Posts
Default Nothing with the dock right now

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cal Coon View Post
I see an excavator and the start of some sort of construction (hay bales), going on at the boat ramp formerly known as Downing's Landing in Alton Bay. I have heard in the past that the state has "big plans" to renovate that ramp, which is in desperate need, but I didn't think it was going to start this soon. I know they already laid new concrete pads for the actual ramp itself, but I was told by a F&G officer that there were big plans for the docks as well. I was told last summer it was going to take a few years for the state to come up with the money... Does anyone have any knowledge as to what is going on with it?
The excavator is there because there was a water leak in the Alton Water Works line that that crosses the Merrymeeting at the bridge. They were working on it Friday evening.

Dave
__________________
I Live Here... I am always UPTHESAUKEE !!!!
upthesaukee is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-06-2018, 02:43 PM   #3
JADAQ
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2016
Posts: 76
Thanks: 3
Thanked 12 Times in 7 Posts
Default

The launch ramp will be closed May 15-18 to remove the old docks and replace with new floating docks according to F&G Facebook page.

Also, the entire facility will be closed, no parking or fishing permitted while the work is being done.
JADAQ is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-07-2018, 10:42 AM   #4
Gould1
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2016
Posts: 30
Thanks: 2
Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts
Default

Boy am I glad to hear this. Hopefully the dock is long enough to have more than one boat in que to be pulled out. It gets pretty ugly there sometimes.
Gould1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-07-2018, 05:21 PM   #5
Hillcountry
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2016
Posts: 823
Thanks: 423
Thanked 113 Times in 72 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gould1 View Post
Boy am I glad to hear this. Hopefully the dock is long enough to have more than one boat in que to be pulled out. It gets pretty ugly there sometimes.
Public ramps, in general, are ugly only because of “googans” and they’re everywhere.
Hillcountry is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Old 05-08-2018, 01:52 PM   #6
MAXUM
Senior Member
 
MAXUM's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Hooksett, NH & Bear Island, NH
Posts: 1,711
Thanks: 166
Thanked 1,131 Times in 412 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hillcountry View Post
Public ramps, in general, are ugly only because of “googans” and they’re everywhere.
Very true but at the same time are a great source of entertainment if you got nothing better to do than to sit around and watch people do really dumb things.
MAXUM is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-08-2018, 04:31 PM   #7
Dave R
Senior Member
 
Dave R's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 2,547
Thanks: 186
Thanked 481 Times in 290 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by MAXUM View Post
Very true but at the same time are a great source of entertainment if you got nothing better to do than to sit around and watch people do really dumb things.
We were on Lake Champlain last year and had a transient slip on a portion of our stay that gave us front row seats to a 4-lane public launch ramp on a Saturday afternoon. The ramps were wide and the docks were really nice, there was tons of dock space and truck/trailer room, and there really wasn't any meaningful waiting time with all 4 lanes active (so no angry outbursts about cutting in line and such), but the antics were superbly entertaining and non-stop. Why anyone would pick a Saturday in August to learn how to use a boat ramp is beyond me...

The best was a guy with a very loud, 30ish foot speed boat that must've attempted to drive on to the trailer (that was in way too deep) at least 15 times. His bow was so high that he had no hope of seeing the trailer as the winch post was only about 2 feet higher than the surface of the water, it looked like he was just aiming for his truck and hoping for the best. Of course the boat kept going on one side or the other of the winch post and his guests on shore would scream at him to reverse. I have a video somewhere...
__________________
Captain of "Mischief Managed"
Say hi if you see us on the lake.
Dave R is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-08-2018, 04:34 PM   #8
Patofnaud
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: Pelham/Paugus Bay
Posts: 69
Thanks: 5
Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts
Default

Saw a guy at a small lake try that maneuver and ended up power loading right over the winch and through the rear window of his Escalade.
Patofnaud is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-08-2018, 06:13 PM   #9
Hillcountry
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2016
Posts: 823
Thanks: 423
Thanked 113 Times in 72 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Patofnaud View Post
Saw a guy at a small lake try that maneuver and ended up power loading right over the winch and through the rear window of his Escalade.
Youtube is chock full of boat launching/loading antics...hard to believe people can be so dumb and clueless.
Hillcountry is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-09-2018, 10:20 AM   #10
noreast
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2015
Posts: 559
Thanks: 249
Thanked 97 Times in 75 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hillcountry View Post
Youtube is chock full of boat launching/loading antics...hard to believe people can be so dumb and clueless.
I think watching those and people on rope swings are my 2 favorite things on line. Of course I'm not routing for bad things, or injuries, but if they're going to happen I'd like to see them.
noreast is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-09-2018, 02:14 PM   #11
MAXUM
Senior Member
 
MAXUM's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Hooksett, NH & Bear Island, NH
Posts: 1,711
Thanks: 166
Thanked 1,131 Times in 412 Posts
Default

Don't we all!
MAXUM is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-09-2018, 04:56 PM   #12
Hillcountry
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2016
Posts: 823
Thanks: 423
Thanked 113 Times in 72 Posts
Default

Speaking of which, having lunch at the Lyons Den after registering the boat today, the googans were ever present as we watched from our window table, the ramp antics, as they tried to load their boats. Thank heavens the ramp wasn’t busy. Like a clown circus...

Last edited by Hillcountry; 05-09-2018 at 07:56 PM.
Hillcountry is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-15-2018, 10:22 AM   #13
FamFire
Junior Member
 
FamFire's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2018
Posts: 7
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default

What genius decided that derby week was the best time to schedule this work?
FamFire is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-15-2018, 11:08 AM   #14
Hillcountry
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2016
Posts: 823
Thanks: 423
Thanked 113 Times in 72 Posts
Default

The derby is May 18-20
Hillcountry is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-16-2018, 07:09 AM   #15
Gould1
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2016
Posts: 30
Thanks: 2
Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts
Default

Has anyone seen how this work is progressing?
Gould1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-16-2018, 08:19 AM   #16
upthesaukee
Senior Member
 
upthesaukee's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Alton Bay
Posts: 4,411
Thanks: 1,236
Thanked 1,281 Times in 688 Posts
Default Nothing done on the 15th

Nothing was done on the 15 th . Forecast was for rain, potentially some severe storms. Notice did say "weather permitting". I'll be going out this morning, and will check then.
__________________
I Live Here... I am always UPTHESAUKEE !!!!
upthesaukee is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-16-2018, 10:51 AM   #17
noreast
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2015
Posts: 559
Thanks: 249
Thanked 97 Times in 75 Posts
Default

Now there saying closed Monday and Tuesday, Weather must have set them back.
noreast is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-16-2018, 11:38 AM   #18
upthesaukee
Senior Member
 
upthesaukee's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Alton Bay
Posts: 4,411
Thanks: 1,236
Thanked 1,281 Times in 688 Posts
Default From The Baysider FB page

From The Baysider newspaper FB page:

News from New Hampshire Fish and Game arrived too late for this week's edition: The Downing's Landing public boat access facility in Alton will be closed on Monday, May 21, and Tuesday, May 22, to allow for the installation of a temporary floating dock to replace the degraded courtesy docks at the boat ramp. The closure will begin on Sunday evening, May 20. Please check NH Fish and Game Department's Statewide Public Boat Access Program’s web page at www.fishnh.com/access/index.php for any last-minute schedule updates.
During the installation, the entire facility will be closed to the public to ensure a safe and effective work site. The ramp will be closed and there will be no opportunity to launch or retrieve motorized boats, sail boats, canoes, kayaks, or other self- propelled watercraft during this time period. The parking area for the ramp will also be closed to the public and there will be no fishing from the shore.


This is not a bad idea considering the Derby this weekend and the effect any delay could have on launching and parking for participants.

Dave
__________________
I Live Here... I am always UPTHESAUKEE !!!!
upthesaukee is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-20-2018, 05:17 PM   #19
GBGX2
Senior Member
 
GBGX2's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: Alton
Posts: 177
Thanks: 148
Thanked 135 Times in 41 Posts
Default From Facebook on the new docks

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?sto...13449475333311
GBGX2 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-21-2018, 07:40 AM   #20
Gould1
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2016
Posts: 30
Thanks: 2
Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts
Default

I wonder if they are doing both docks or just one? The Facebook article calls the replacement docks "temporary" I wonder if they have larger plans for the facility?
Gould1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-21-2018, 10:32 AM   #21
JADAQ
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2016
Posts: 76
Thanks: 3
Thanked 12 Times in 7 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gould1 View Post
I wonder if they are doing both docks or just one? The Facebook article calls the replacement docks "temporary" I wonder if they have larger plans for the facility?
The way I took it was that they are putting in floating docks, I’ve seen these around the lake and it’s a good concept, that way they can just remove them at end of season to prevent ice damage.
JADAQ is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-21-2018, 03:55 PM   #22
Dave R
Senior Member
 
Dave R's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 2,547
Thanks: 186
Thanked 481 Times in 290 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by JADAQ View Post
The way I took it was that they are putting in floating docks, I’ve seen these around the lake and it’s a good concept, that way they can just remove them at end of season to prevent ice damage.
That's how I interpreted it as well. Floating docks are idea for this application and very common around the country for public ramps. I hope they install 2 of them.

If you ever want to install a dock for just sitting on, don't use a floating dock. They are terrible for that because the motion from waves is all jerky and unpleasant.
__________________
Captain of "Mischief Managed"
Say hi if you see us on the lake.
Dave R is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-21-2018, 04:43 PM   #23
upthesaukee
Senior Member
 
upthesaukee's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Alton Bay
Posts: 4,411
Thanks: 1,236
Thanked 1,281 Times in 688 Posts
Default Today

Drove by this afternoon and there is one floating dock installed, which appears to be about 3-4 ft wide. I did not stop, park , and walk in, so I do not know about the posts.

IMHO, if they were removing both docks, which they did, they would remove all parts of the dock.

Dave
__________________
I Live Here... I am always UPTHESAUKEE !!!!
upthesaukee is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-22-2018, 07:44 AM   #24
Gould1
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2016
Posts: 30
Thanks: 2
Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts
Default

I really like the fact that F&G is doing this repair work. However, if there is no one to monitor what goes on down there, "like most public ramps" it wont take long for damage to start to set in. All it takes is one person to back into the dock with a trailer or smash into it with a boat at night and it's down hill from there. I hate to be a negative Nelly but that's just reality. That ramp used to have a HUGE drop off at the end of the concrete from all the power loading that went on down there. So bad that I thought I was going to rip and axle off my trailer pulling the boat out one day. I'm not sure what its like now that they redid the ramp.
Gould1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-22-2018, 08:22 AM   #25
ishoot308
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Gilford, NH / Welch Island
Posts: 3,905
Thanks: 1,300
Thanked 2,730 Times in 1,008 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gould1 View Post
All it takes is one person to back into the dock with a trailer or smash into it with a boat at night and it's down hill from there. I hate to be a negative Nelly but that's just reality.
Like this?....



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2oq0...&feature=share
__________________
It's Always Sunny On Welch Island!!
ishoot308 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-22-2018, 12:02 PM   #26
Dave R
Senior Member
 
Dave R's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 2,547
Thanks: 186
Thanked 481 Times in 290 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gould1 View Post
I really like the fact that F&G is doing this repair work. However, if there is no one to monitor what goes on down there, "like most public ramps" it wont take long for damage to start to set in. All it takes is one person to back into the dock with a trailer or smash into it with a boat at night and it's down hill from there. I hate to be a negative Nelly but that's just reality. That ramp used to have a HUGE drop off at the end of the concrete from all the power loading that went on down there. So bad that I thought I was going to rip and axle off my trailer pulling the boat out one day. I'm not sure what its like now that they redid the ramp.
I've used dozens of public ramps with these kinds of docks over the last 20+ years and have never seen one damaged as you described. They are pretty rugged and there's a lot of incentive not to hit one with a boat. I realize boat ramp follies are pretty common and wildly amusing, but rarely do they result in damage to the ramp infrastructure.

The power-loading damage at this ramp was fixed by extending the concrete deeper into the lake and has not been a problem since. FWIW, the dock that this new dock replaced was more likely than not damaged by ice, not boats.
__________________
Captain of "Mischief Managed"
Say hi if you see us on the lake.
Dave R is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-22-2018, 01:32 PM   #27
upthesaukee
Senior Member
 
upthesaukee's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Alton Bay
Posts: 4,411
Thanks: 1,236
Thanked 1,281 Times in 688 Posts
Default visited today

I headed down to the Bay post office and took a little detour over to the launch area. Very nice dock.

A short section on land with a hinge connection to the 1st section, which is of course connected to section 2. All heavy duty connections. Dock is quite stable, although wind was blowing out, so not much wave action to see. Unfortunately, I left my phone at the house, so no pictures.

Note, the dock is anchored by two heavy duty stainless chains that extend from the corners to their anchors, in crisscross fashion. They are marked by a small orange round buoy.

Overall, looks nice. I will probably deploy fenders when I launch and recover my boat, due to the low profile of the dock, which is probably too low for contact with the rubrail.

Dave
__________________
I Live Here... I am always UPTHESAUKEE !!!!
upthesaukee is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-22-2018, 02:43 PM   #28
Dave R
Senior Member
 
Dave R's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 2,547
Thanks: 186
Thanked 481 Times in 290 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by upthesaukee View Post
Drove by this afternoon and there is one floating dock installed, which appears to be about 3-4 ft wide. I did not stop, park , and walk in, so I do not know about the posts.

IMHO, if they were removing both docks, which they did, they would remove all parts of the dock.

Dave
There were pics on facebook of the posts they removed.
__________________
Captain of "Mischief Managed"
Say hi if you see us on the lake.
Dave R is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Dave R For This Useful Post:
upthesaukee (05-22-2018)
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 01:30 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2018, vBulletin Solutions Inc.

This page was generated in 0.18669 seconds