Ice-out victim

Formula · 03-19-2010, 07:20 AM

First victim of the soon to be ice-out...OUCH

fpartri497 · 03-19-2010, 07:24 AM

Wow, where on the lake Is this damage? Thats the power of mother nature

tis · 03-19-2010, 07:29 AM

Oh no! But it's that time of year!

Formula · 03-19-2010, 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by fpartri497

Wow, where on the lake Is this damage? Thats the power of mother nature

On the east side of Long Island

Steveo · 03-19-2010, 08:37 AM

It shows how that while bubblers keep the area from freezing they do nothing to stop the crush of an iceberg.

SS-194 · 03-19-2010, 10:40 AM

I don't have any pictures but when I was out on Rattlesnake a few weeks ago our friends heavy duty steel frame dock that they lift out of the water had come down. Probably before ice in. This dock was pushed in and it ran parallel to the shore instead of sticking out and was crushed from maybe 36 '' wide to maybe a foot. It looked like a huge pair of vice grips squeezed it. Keeps us humble doesn't it.

WINNOCTURN · 03-19-2010, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by fpartri497

Wow, where on the lake Is this damage? Thats the power of mother nature

I would bet it's at Harilla Landing?

LIforrelaxin · 03-19-2010, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by WINNOCTURN

I would bet it's at Harilla Landing?

Wrong that is not Harilla Landing, I don't know the name of the association, but as you come on to long Island it is the first couple of Roads on the Left. There is a Community dock and Mooring field.

LIforrelaxin · 03-19-2010, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Steveo

It shows how that while bubblers keep the area from freezing they do nothing to stop the crush of an iceberg.

Correct once the ice starts moving all bets are off....I had a couple of legs bust on my articulating dock a few years back because the water came up and an ice chunk hit the legs......

Steveo · 03-19-2010, 03:24 PM

I have a very hefty crib dock. One year the ice lifted one edge (crib, rocks, decking ) up 2 feet. Thank God it settled back down over the spring

Islander2 · 03-19-2010, 03:52 PM

LIforrelaxin,

Is the picture looking down the bay towards Dow and Pleasant Islands?

Formula · 03-19-2010, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Islander2

LIforrelaxin,

Is the picture looking down the bay towards Dow and Pleasant Islands?

You are looking at Little Bear on the right

luckypete · 03-19-2010, 10:17 PM

Formula,

Thanks for the geo-spatial reference. Do ya think the fishing's any good 'tween there and Little Bear?

See ya on the lake!

LP

Islander2 · 03-19-2010, 10:25 PM

Thanks Formula, sure looks good! The boat is hooked up to the truck and ready to go, first thing in the morning. Will be going thru there in less than 12 hours.

CanisLupusArctos · 03-21-2010, 02:59 PM

If you live in an area where the ice is known for moving around in springtime, it is better to avoid having a bubbler. Letting the ice freeze around the dock will provide a barrier against incoming ice, come spring. If it freezes thickly enough around the dock posts during the winter, the most that should happen to them is that they will need to be re-positioned a few inches in spring -- and many seasons, not at all. In places where ice is known for moving around in springtime, bubblers beat back the edge of the ice all winter long. In spring it melts back even further. Then the ice starts breaking up, and the open water around the dock allows the ice to drift around and slam into the posts. We may remember how long we had to go without the Meredith Town Docks in summer of 2007. In mid-April, the Patriots Day storm caused the ice to break up and drift in the strong winds. Those with bubblers sustained the heaviest damage. This included the Meredith Town Docks. Those who had ice frozen in around their docks actually were protected by the ice that was already there. When the ice is breaking up and moving around, the last thing you want around your dock is open water.

jst_4_kiks · 03-21-2010, 11:05 PM

looks like the lands end association docks. they have the lil dock lights and can recognize the opening in the middle to the area of "the 6 pack".

LIforrelaxin · 03-22-2010, 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Formula

You are looking at Little Bear on the right

Opps dam I was wrong.... I guess I have been away to long....thanks for the correction Formula..... Its going to be a somewhat costly repair.... I am surprised that the ice caused trouble in that area.... that always seemed fairly protected to me......

03-19-2010, 07:20 AM	#1
Formula Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 183 Thanks: 12 Thanked 28 Times in 16 Posts	Ice-out victim First victim of the soon to be ice-out...OUCH Attached Images

03-19-2010, 07:24 AM	#2
fpartri497 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Concord NH Posts: 681 Thanks: 97 Thanked 48 Times in 39 Posts	first victim Wow, where on the lake Is this damage? Thats the power of mother nature __________________ dont worry be happy

03-19-2010, 08:37 AM	#5
Steveo Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 523 Thanks: 47 Thanked 123 Times in 63 Posts	They had a bubbler It shows how that while bubblers keep the area from freezing they do nothing to stop the crush of an iceberg.

03-19-2010, 03:52 PM	#11
Islander2 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 51 Thanks: 22 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Question about the picture? LIforrelaxin, Is the picture looking down the bay towards Dow and Pleasant Islands?

03-19-2010, 10:17 PM	#13
luckypete Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: cow island Posts: 26 Thanks: 31 Thanked 5 Times in 4 Posts	Photo Viewpoint Formula, Thanks for the geo-spatial reference. Do ya think the fishing's any good 'tween there and Little Bear? See ya on the lake! LP

03-19-2010, 07:29 AM	#3
tis Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 6,411 Thanks: 719 Thanked 1,381 Times in 957 Posts	Oh no! But it's that time of year!

03-19-2010, 10:40 AM	#6
SS-194 Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Nottingham NH Posts: 13 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 1 Post	I don't have any pictures but when I was out on Rattlesnake a few weeks ago our friends heavy duty steel frame dock that they lift out of the water had come down. Probably before ice in. This dock was pushed in and it ran parallel to the shore instead of sticking out and was crushed from maybe 36 '' wide to maybe a foot. It looked like a huge pair of vice grips squeezed it. Keeps us humble doesn't it.

03-19-2010, 03:24 PM	#10
Steveo Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 523 Thanks: 47 Thanked 123 Times in 63 Posts	I have a very hefty crib dock. One year the ice lifted one edge (crib, rocks, decking ) up 2 feet. Thank God it settled back down over the spring

03-19-2010, 10:25 PM	#14
Islander2 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 51 Thanks: 22 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Thanks! Thanks Formula, sure looks good! The boat is hooked up to the truck and ready to go, first thing in the morning. Will be going thru there in less than 12 hours.

03-21-2010, 02:59 PM	#15
CanisLupusArctos Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Center Harbor Posts: 1,049 Thanks: 15 Thanked 472 Times in 107 Posts	If you live in an area where the ice is known for moving around in springtime, it is better to avoid having a bubbler. Letting the ice freeze around the dock will provide a barrier against incoming ice, come spring. If it freezes thickly enough around the dock posts during the winter, the most that should happen to them is that they will need to be re-positioned a few inches in spring -- and many seasons, not at all. In places where ice is known for moving around in springtime, bubblers beat back the edge of the ice all winter long. In spring it melts back even further. Then the ice starts breaking up, and the open water around the dock allows the ice to drift around and slam into the posts. We may remember how long we had to go without the Meredith Town Docks in summer of 2007. In mid-April, the Patriots Day storm caused the ice to break up and drift in the strong winds. Those with bubblers sustained the heaviest damage. This included the Meredith Town Docks. Those who had ice frozen in around their docks actually were protected by the ice that was already there. When the ice is breaking up and moving around, the last thing you want around your dock is open water.

03-21-2010, 11:05 PM	#16
jst_4_kiks Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Laconia NH Posts: 127 Thanks: 24 Thanked 15 Times in 11 Posts	looks like the lands end association docks. they have the lil dock lights and can recognize the opening in the middle to the area of "the 6 pack". __________________ Marine Technician - Learning Something New Every Day PM with any questions about marine repair