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Old 08-15-2020, 05:35 PM   #1
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Default have you seen a Mountain Lion ?

I have reliable, sober neighbors, here on the east side of Buzzell Cove, who tell me they have seen a mountain lion(s?) padding around on Curtis Lane and Granny Hill rd. this past week
I have NOT seen it/them and I really don't want to, unless I have my camera in one hand and a firearm in the other.
Have any (reliable, sober) forum members seen such a beast walking around and, if so where and when.
From my reading, I see that authorities (Fish and Game, Police Depts.) are reluctant to admit to the presence of mountain lions (pumas?) in our area, but I assume that is just to keep tourists calm.

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Old 08-15-2020, 05:42 PM   #2
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Out here they are called cougars....we had one walk right down the middle of our street one night....but not so unusual....this is big foot country!
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Yes, I have seen one. Not around here and not in the last 12 years.
Coming home (late) from a band gig, I turned into my then girlfriends street in Boxford, MA no less and there was a mountain lion on the edge of the road.
In a flash, it jumped into the tangled roadside brush and was gone.
Of course the police dept denied hat I saw and left it unchecked.
Upon “googling” any sightings in the area, I found that some sightings were reported just south of there in local news articles.
I believe they are “out there” but not in any numbers. I have had game cams out for years and have not had any on cams...everything but!
Incidentally, the sighting was in mid-late May which is the fawning season for deer (of which there are many in that area).
Reports of sightings pop up now and again...there used to be an online “group” devoted to anything ”Eastern Mt Lion” but I don’t know if they still exist.

By the way, even though they don’t exist according to NH F&G they are a protected species, so don’t shoot unless your life is endangered.
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My wife and I were driving to the Merrimack dump in the winter way back in the early 90s. A very large and long cat slowly crossed the road about 50 feet in front of us on the dirt road near the dump. It was very dark grey, almost like charcoal. It had a somewhat bulbous head and a thick long tail, that was very much like one we saw at the MOS in Boston, though the one at the MOS was yawned. It was very cold and there was a hard layer of crusty snow, so there were no tracks left behind.

I know they also found some droppings a number of years back in the Ossipee mountains in Moultonborough. When I hiked there I did see some large cat-like tracks in the mud, but I am no expert.

I think there is clear evidence that there are mountain lions in the area occasionally. I think the official position is they are just transients and do not really live here.
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My wife and I were driving to the Merrimack dump in the winter way back in the early 90s. A very large and long cat slowly crossed the road about 50 feet in front of us on the dirt road near the dump. It was very dark grey, almost like charcoal. It had a somewhat bulbous head and a thick long tail, that was very much like one we saw at the MOS in Boston, though the one at the MOS was yawned. It was very cold and there was a hard layer of crusty snow, so there were no tracks left behind. I know they also found some droppings a number of years back in the Ossipee mountains in Moultonborough. When I hiked there I did see some large cat-like tracks in the mud, but I am no expert. I think there is clear evidence that there are mountain lions in the area occasionally. I think the official position is they are just transients and do not really live here.
To translate from "Boston talk"--like Boston directions...take the tunnel to the bridge and it'll take you right there.

MOS=Museum of Science?
Yawned=tawny?

Alternative names a-plenty:

Mountain Lion=Puma=Catamount=Cat-a-Mountain=Cougar=Panther...all are Puma concolor to the people who study them.

There was a Mountain Lion roadkill in Connecticut--maybe ten years ago. I think it was a male, which is typical of New England's transient species.

Videos of Porch-prowling, too, but the state (CT) was in dispute.

Florida has a sub-species of Panther, but their numbers are fewer than 50 statewide. (Too few to maintain the species without interbreeding with its Western cousins).

There's a YouTube video of a Puma's successful attack on an alligator in a jungle pond.
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I have reliable, sober neighbors, here on the east side of Buzzell Cove, who tell me they have seen a mountain lion(s?) padding around on Curtis Lane and Granny Hill rd. this past week
I have NOT seen it/them and I really don't want to, unless I have my camera in one hand and a firearm in the other.
Have any (reliable, sober) forum members seen such a beast walking around and, if so where and when.
From my reading, I see that authorities (Fish and Game, Police Depts.) are reluctant to admit to the presence of mountain lions (pumas?) in our area, but I assume that is just to keep tourists calm.

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I saw one in the early 80's in southern NH. I was about 30 feet away from it and we were both surprised. I haven't seen one since but I have no doubt now they visit.
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To translate from "Boston talk"--like Boston directions...take the tunnel to the bridge and it'll take you right there.

MOS=Museum of Science?
Yawned=tawny?

Alternative names a-plenty:

Mountain Lion=Puma=Catamount=Cat-a-Mountain=Cougar=Panther...all are Puma concolor to the people who study them.

There was a Mountain Lion roadkill in Connecticut--maybe ten years ago. I think it was a male, which is typical of New England's transient species.

Videos of Porch-prowling, too, but the state (CT) was in dispute.

Florida has a sub-species of Panther, but their numbers are fewer than 50 statewide. (Too few to maintain the species without interbreeding with its Western cousins).

There's a YouTube video of a Puma's successful attack on an alligator in a jungle pond.
The CT animal killed 70 miles from NYC was 1500 miles from home.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-m...76Q5ZE20110727

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There's a pretty cool blog on this subject that I bookmarked years ago after reading various accounts (including the Ossipee Mountains trace mentioned above). Lots of reader-provided sightings, and you'll have to decide for yourselves which you believe or not.

Still, some good reading.

https://nhmountainlion.wordpress.com/about/
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There's a pretty cool blog on this subject that I bookmarked years ago after reading various accounts (including the Ossipee Mountains trace mentioned above). Lots of reader-provided sightings, and you'll have to decide for yourselves which you believe or not.

Still, some good reading.

https://nhmountainlion.wordpress.com/about/
They are definitely, here!
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For years, one of the arguments against there being any in the region has been, "Well, why hasn't anyone found a dead one?" I think about it this way: There are way more moose and bear in the state (by a few orders of magnitude), and when was the last time you found a dead moose or bear? Dead stuff doesn't last long in the woods! Same with the cell phone photo argument. I was REALLY lucky to capture a few moose photos over the years, as well as a couple of bear shots, but all were pretty lame photos, and were taken when I was on foot. Having the presence of mind (plus the fine motor skills) to whip out a phone, activate a camera app, and capture an image is tough. Even tougher (and ill-advised) when driving.

I tend to believe that they are around, and would welcome a sighting.
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I have reliable, sober neighbors, here on the east side of Buzzell Cove, who tell me they have seen a mountain lion(s?) padding around on Curtis Lane and Granny Hill rd. this past week
I have NOT seen it/them and I really don't want to, unless I have my camera in one hand and a firearm in the other.
Have any (reliable, sober) forum members seen such a beast walking around and, if so where and when.
From my reading, I see that authorities (Fish and Game, Police Depts.) are reluctant to admit to the presence of mountain lions (pumas?) in our area, but I assume that is just to keep tourists calm.

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I believe the reason F&G won't say they're here is that the animals which have been found (dead) in New England can be traced back to the Northern Rockies, so it's true they're here but they're not from here. If they were breeding here I think they would change their message. However, I don't get why they won't say they're here!
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I saw one last fall walking up the street - it walked like a cat and had a very long thick tail that swooped to the ground. By the time I took a picture with my phone, it had walked among trees and out of focus. My neighbor also saw it in her driveway around the same time period. We live in Meredith near the Laconia line and Rt. 3.

A friend saw one in Gilford a few years ago up the hill near the cinema. He saw several growing up in Missouri and knew exactly what they look like.

Just because someone hasn't captured one in a picture or found a dead carcass doesn't mean they are not here. Animals are not aware of state lines!
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I always find this an interesting discussion. My perspective is based on the fact that I have lived in Southern California for over 45 years in a region where they live in sort of a land locked area. During the past 10 years there has been a concerted effort to save what is left of the population. Many have a tracking collar so their activity is monitored. When food sources become limited they will go after farm stock or pets on the fringe of developed areas. Unfortunately the only ones most of us have seen are the dead ones from being hit by a car or dieing from rat poisoning.
Living in NH and the vast amount of wilderness I can see why it is nearly impossible to verify if they are here. They have plenty of wildlife to sustain themselves and being so elusive by nature, there is very little reason for them to go into populated areas. Definitely the best way for verification is the use of trail cams.
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I always find this an interesting discussion. My perspective is based on the fact that I have lived in Southern California for over 45 years in a region where they live in sort of a land locked area. During the past 10 years there has been a concerted effort to save what is left of the population. Many have a tracking collar so their activity is monitored. When food sources become limited they will go after farm stock or pets on the fringe of developed areas. Unfortunately the only ones most of us have seen are the dead ones from being hit by a car or dieing from rat poisoning.
Living in NH and the vast amount of wilderness I can see why it is nearly impossible to verify if they are here. They have plenty of wildlife to sustain themselves and being so elusive by nature, there is very little reason for them to go into populated areas. Definitely the best way for verification is the use of trail cams.
Even with trail cameras one would have to walk in front of it. I've seen many deer walking around my cameras and never tripping the camera. I f I wasn't there at the time I would have believed the deer weren't!
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Everybody in NH has a cousin or an uncle who has "seen a mountain lion" but everyone also has a camera in their pocket When I see a picture of one and it is confirmed to have been taken in NH, I'll believe it. Until then, I'm firmly in the "they are not here" camp. AT BEST... MAYBE one passes through once in a very long while but if there were breeding populations in the state, there would be proof.
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Everybody in NH has a cousin or an uncle who has "seen a mountain lion" but everyone also has a camera in their pocket When I see a picture of one and it is confirmed to have been taken in NH, I'll believe it. Until then, I'm firmly in the "they are not here" camp. AT BEST... MAYBE one passes through once in a very long while but if there were breeding populations in the state, there would be proof.
Just curious... if you're driving down the road and one crosses in front of you will you guarantee that picture? There's no way I would...
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Everybody in NH has a cousin or an uncle who has "seen a mountain lion" but everyone also has a camera in their pocket When I see a picture of one and it is confirmed to have been taken in NH, I'll believe it. Until then, I'm firmly in the "they are not here" camp. AT BEST... MAYBE one passes through once in a very long while but if there were breeding populations in the state, there would be proof.
Iím in agreement with you. There thousands of trail cams out there that we hunters have in the woods many of which are in there year round. If they were here they would be seen.
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Just curious... if you're driving down the road and one crosses in front of you will you guarantee that picture? There's no way I would...
I wouldn't guarantee that, no. But you're talking about a hypothetical single sighting. There are so many people across the state every year saying that they see them and there are hundreds (thousands?) of game cameras and trail cameras in the woods all over the state and yet no conclusive pictures or footage. Bobcats are elusive but they are still seen all the time on game cameras and captured on cell phones.
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I was getting ready to take a picture of a mountain lion and a damn alien grabbed the phone out of my hands

Big Foot got it back for me but by then the lion was gone!

Mountain lions will remain illusive but someday one will not look twice before crossing the road.

Someday...
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I wouldn't guarantee that, no. But you're talking about a hypothetical single sighting. There are so many people across the state every year saying that they see them and there are hundreds (thousands?) of game cameras and trail cameras in the woods all over the state and yet no conclusive pictures or footage. Bobcats are elusive but they are still seen all the time on game cameras and captured on cell phones.
A bobcat was seen today on a home camera in the Meredith Bay community.


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We have seen one in South Down Shores in Laconia twice so far.

Bobcat that is, not the lion type.

He/she/shim was traveling the same route across the road so we think it might be two separate sightings of the same cat.
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I wouldn't guarantee that, no. But you're talking about a hypothetical single sighting. There are so many people across the state every year saying that they see them and there are hundreds (thousands?) of game cameras and trail cameras in the woods all over the state and yet no conclusive pictures or footage. Bobcats are elusive but they are still seen all the time on game cameras and captured on cell phones.
Just because one hasn't been seen on camera doesn't mean they haven't been seen.
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The couple with the male puma must have a very smelly apartment.

Male cats like to mark their territory.
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haha...looking for it's thanksgiving dinner!
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Wow...those are great pics! Did the bobcat eventually go after the turkeys?
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There must have been something in the air that day. On the morning of 11/4/20 my wife snapped this photo in our yard - rural area in CT. We've lived here 25 years and that's the first time we've seen a bobcat in our yard.
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Wow...those are great pics! Did the bobcat eventually go after the turkeys?
No.
We watched him circle them for about half an hour- hiding behind big rocks and peeking at them- trying to get closer. When he finally just sat (pictures) the turkeys not only didn't run, they all turned at once (more than 20 of them) and stared him down- seriously.
There were so many turkeys I really felt that the cat was afraid. I'm sure 20+ pairs of claws gave him pause!

I took the pics from inside- maybe 20 yards away, but we were no more than maybe 40 yards away while watching outside. He wasn't interested in us.
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I spoke to an employee from a local landscape company about wild animals since I saw a bobcat on my driveway last week.

He said a few weeks ago he was driving out of Wolfeboro on 109 towards Route 16, and right past Wentworth Park, beyond the Top of the Hill Farm, a mother and cub mountain lion ran across the road in front of his truck.

He also said that last winter, one of the homes he works at off of 109A in Tuftonboro had huge cat paw marks in the snow with dragging tail marks in their yard. He is positive it was a mountain lion and saw the tracks often during plowing days, but never saw the cat.

The bobcat I saw was also seen by my mail truck guy since it crossed right in front of him leaving the house. Crazy!
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