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This is the issue, everyone equates NY to NYC which is not the case at all and just like any state they do some things well and other things not so well. In this situation DaveR and I are just suggesting the NY has a better handle on how to get the most out of their town dock facilities for themselves and the local businesses and I has worked very well for many years. NOTE: Non of their town docks are within the border of NYC or its 5 boroughs they are on the lakes and rivers upstate and at state and federal parks on Long Island. |
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I don't think so, the state only prohibits overnight anchoring on inland waters. Docks basically the only place you can overnight legally. The dock owner determines the allowable uses.
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.......golleeeeeee....... a couple years back, I actually found a ten dollar bill float'n in the water about four feet off the town dock, there ..... with all these big money boats dock'n up to go hit the local restaurants ...... am look'n to find a HUNDRED DOLLAR BILL float'n ..... sink'n ..... in the water there....yahhooooooo!
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So if public docks in Wolfeboro, Center Harbor, Alton Bay, Weirs Beach, and Meredith weren't installed to attract customers in boats to local businesses, why were they installed?
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A buddy of mine that has his 59' boat docked in Mystic Conn. told me that when he leaves his rented dock space he has to let the dock master know when he's going to return because they rent it out while he's gone.
If he comes back early and his space is occupied and they don't have some place for him to tie up he's out of luck. He has to stay a sea until a space opens up. It's ridiculous that they can rent out his space while he's gone and he gets nothing out of it. What a sham! |
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Big -- I think it probably cuts BOTH ways ….. It clearly had to be a condition of Rental ( that he is aware of) but probably also positively impacts his Slip Rental cost...……….. that would be "what he get's out of it.
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Anway, I'll be on my boat this weekend, likely making an overnight stay at a dock away from my home slip and exploring a lovely waterfront town with a welcoming atmosphere. I'm sure it will be just awful. ![]() ![]() |
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Now that's what the manufacturers had in mind when they developed all those "Cruisers" (big & small) …………. to be used to TRAVEL in -
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We know why they were installed, but the planners were not counting on the run-away sizes of today's boats.
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My family used to stay overnight at Weirs, Wolfeboro, etc. The towns encouraged cabin cruisers, not because we did a lot of spending, but because the larger boats were a tourist attraction.
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Back in the 70's when I was a kid, my uncle had a camp on a small lake in the lakes region, and he had a 17' Penn Yan with a 120hp 4cyl mercruiser in it, and at the time it was the fastest boat on the lake!! It's "nickname" was "the Pig" because of all the fuel it used!!! A friend of theirs on the other side of the lake, then bought a 16 or 17' Glastron/Carlson with a 125hp Johnson o/b 2 stroke motor that then became the fastest boat on the lake...!!! "The pig" just couldn't keep up with that 2 stroke!!! My how things have changed...
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I saw as I passed between Eagle and Governor’s the other day that the 54’ yacht is now docked at the owner’s residence! Looks great there and really does not appear to be “too big” for Winni.
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Seems someone has their docking space at Silver Sands.
Perhaps the plan all aling once they squared away the dock at the house.
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Beam overall [ft] 15’7” Draft max. [ft] 4’7’’ Mass of Light Craft Condition [lbs] 53462 Engine (-s) power [HP] 2 x 725 Are you really that concerned about LWL? That would mean that almost every one of us is running a boat shorter than we claim it is. Is there a point that you are trying to make? |
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![]() Actually, I just found it humorous with people arguing over minor details about the boat like it's some kind of religious vessel.
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Our dock has been in place since 1984. In thirty-five years, no wakes have crashed over the end—until last weekend. ![]() ![]()
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I don't know if you noticed but they now build boats (in a size you might approve of) that make a big wake intentionally just so people can surf on it. As time marches on and we get a little older we have to adjust to many changes happening around us. Some we will like some we won't. Do you have a rotary dial cell phone? |
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Looking at that pic makes me think you are lucky to have survived. It looks like upwards of a gallon of water and possibly an ounce or two of pine needles nearly overwhelmed a few spiders on you dock. #tsunami2019 #savethedockspiders
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I had an epic battle with one on my jetski last weekend, he did not want to get out...I had to make a weapon and duel him to the death...or at least until he jumped in the water until he is seen again... |
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If I'd built on the Broads, I'd have longer pilings put underneath—and a breakwater—which is not permitted here on a deep and a "protected" shoreline. Since 1984, moorings and boatlifts have sprung up in Winter Harbor like mushrooms in July, so the problem of oversized boats isn't being overlooked. Ocean-racers and "liveaboard" cruisers aren't so much of a problem on oceans. Quote:
![]() ![]() In 1984, the builders didn't think to use PT for the 6"x8" cross-members, so I've had to replace three of them myself—most recently last summer. As it happened, a 6"x8" cross-member floated-by last spring. Although twice as long as needed, I snagged it, and chain-sawed it to fit. ![]()
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These comments from afar that don't contribute to any value from the OP What do you suggest to correct this problem? I come on the forum to understand what current OP are trying to information or help and learn. But really to have so many posts that are just totally off the wall like this recent one just does add any value. It is not what I am looking for from the Winni forum that I used to know and learn from many excellent posters
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I've gone by the boat several times and the boat/dock/house all seem in reasonable proportion. No big deal, IMO.
But it could be that the owner will need to take out his/her chain saw, cut all the pilings to the "roof" of the boat "house", and raise the "roof' by about 8 or 10 feet or so. That will enable said boat to fit in the boat "house". I'm pretty good with a chain saw so I would be willing to help out. And, just to stay on topic, I enjoyed eating RingDings as a kid. How about you? |
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I find this impossible to believe. My dock is normally high and dry too.... but when the water is high I get wake wash... Now what do I consider high... 504.32 feet is high water, and I will get a wake everynow and again that will crash through the dock.... like your picture shows.... Now my dock isn't in trouble until 505 ft. when teh deck boards are covered....
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Suzy Q's for me!!! I never thought I would see the day that "Hostess" couldn't make it in a country of obese people!! Who knew...??? But to stay on topic, maybe that's another reason why all these otherwise "dry" docks are getting wet these days! More than ever before, obese people in bigger boats making bigger wakes...
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![]() Yes, the lake is unseasonably high. Last weekend, the lake's biggest boats crashed their wakes into the shoreline to pull winter's (normal) muddy footprint into the lake. Lake water came out of the tap darker than I've ever seen it. ![]() It's cleared now, but the invisible "nutrients" of the lake's many lakeside lawns were also "flushed" from the shoreline. As all should know by now, lawn nutrients—namely, Phosphorus and Nitrogen—encourage the growth of algae and exotic milfoil. Oversized boats may make life gentler for an aging population of boaters, but who would support any oversized mono-hulls—which are speeding Lake Winnipesaukee to an eutrophic end. |
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An excellent study from Michigan:
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I don't get excited about more laws, but incentives and free stuff work. Most conservation commissions give out evergreen seelings that they get from the state nursery in Boscawen. Why not roll that over to Blueberries, wintergreen, etc. and related shrub type ground cover? Tough to get rid of all lawns, but, especially in a cove or on a small lake, getting rid of some can be beneficial. You can still have lawns of course, but the woody ground cover is beneficial close to shore.
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