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Old 11-09-2019, 04:28 PM   #1
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Unhappy Shep Browns not renewing slip

So disappointed - we have had a slip at Sheps ever since we purchased our island home 10 years ago, and we just received a letter letting us know that they will be unable to offer us a slip next year as they are "using the slip for marina operations". We weren't loving the changes since the new ownership - virtually impossible to dock when all the rental boats come back and much less parking given all the day renters that come; but it is such an easy boat ride to the island and so convenient! Guess we can join the throngs searching for slips now - very disappointing.

If anyone has a marina they love, or one they like that has slips please let me know!!
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Bear Island? Where are you coming from?

Might be worth looking to buy, though prices are high right now.

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We are on Mark - right near the end of Bear.
We love that even in bad weather the ride has Bear to one side and land to the other side most of the way - makes even stormy boating not too bad. Also easy at night....
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Gotcha. There's a forum member selling a slip at Quayside, which would be to the north of your island.

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Is it listed in the classifieds? I am guessing purchasing a slip is a little (or lot) out of our budget.
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It's more of a hike than you may want, but we have been at West Alton Marina for several years and we love it. Very nice people, and a very laid back vibe. Not sure if there is a waiting list, but they are in the process of increasing the number of slips. Good luck.
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Is it listed in the classifieds? I am guessing purchasing a slip is a little (or lot) out of our budget.
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Depending on which side of the lake the OP is coming from Quayside may be a long ride.

There are usually plenty of slips that pop up over the winter in the Gilford area, you just need to be constantly checking.
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Depending on which side of the lake the OP is coming from Quayside may be a long ride.

There are usually plenty of slips that pop up over the winter in the Gilford area, you just need to be constantly checking.
Maybe, but owning vs. renting might be worth a few minutes.

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There are racks available at Harilla Landing, depending on the size of your boat. We are summer islanders and find that the rack is better than a dock since the boat doesn't sit in water and get beat up when we're not there. Racks and docks there also come up for sale frequently. Also, the facility is managed very well now with new management company and the boat is put in the water as soon as we arrive and usually before we get a chance to unload the car.
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There are racks available at Harilla Landing, depending on the size of your boat. We are summer islanders and find that the rack is better than a dock since the boat doesn't sit in water and get beat up when we're not there. Racks and docks there also come up for sale frequently. Also, the facility is managed very well now with new management company and the boat is put in the water as soon as we arrive and usually before we get a chance to unload the car.
Check out http://www.harilla.org/lease.html
My boat was damaged at Harilla’s at some point, or points, coming on and off the racks. So there is also hazards to rack storage.


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My boat was damaged at Harilla’s at some point, or points, coming on and off the racks. So there is also hazards to rack storage.


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Yes there is always the possibility of damage with Rack Storage, and not all operators are the same. The guys running operations at Harilla's right now are very good at what they do.... they have been servicing my boat for years.... When was your boat at Harrila's, and do you know whom the management company was running it. Where you there before the new storgage building?
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Having been on Mark Island for years as an islander, I always came out of gilford.
For me to drive all the way to Quayside would add a significant amount of time to my trip as I come up from the seacoast. Thats why I mentioned it would be good to know where the original poster was coming from
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Having been on Mark Island for years as an islander, I always came out of gilford.
For me to drive all the way to Quayside would add a significant amount of time to my trip as I come up from the seacoast. Thats why I mentioned it would be good to know where the original poster was coming from
And I agreed, pointing out that--since we don't know where the OP is coming--the opportunity exists.

Obviously, the OP isn't going to buy in the wrong place, but by post served to both offer a suggestion AND ferret out important details.

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Sorry I missed that part of the question - we are coming from Manchester, up 93.
So certainly a part of our concern is the driving time, and then the boating - we have teenagers, people coming and going, so the easier for boating at night, in the rain, etc the better. I should add, we tried valet the first year and it did not work well for us!
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Sorry I missed that part of the question - we are coming from Manchester, up 93.
So certainly a part of our concern is the driving time, and then the boating - we have teenagers, people coming and going, so the easier for boating at night, in the rain, etc the better. I should add, we tried valet the first year and it did not work well for us!
I would definitely try to stay in gilford. As a gilford resident you should be taking advantage of Glendale. Unfortunately prices everywhere are going up. I do know of a slip for rent in Mountain View but it’s 5K for next year. what size boat do you commute with?

Gilford is an easy shot down the bypass from Belmont/Tilton, plus it puts you much closer to grocery stores, Walmart and other services when on land.
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Sorry I missed that part of the question - we are coming from Manchester, up 93.
So certainly a part of our concern is the driving time, and then the boating - we have teenagers, people coming and going, so the easier for boating at night, in the rain, etc the better. I should add, we tried valet the first year and it did not work well for us!
So if you come up 93, and presumable come in 104.... Besides Sheps, as they aren't renewing your lease, check with Y-landing, Meredith Marine, Thurstons, and Winnisquam marine (formerly Channel)..... They are going to be your closet bets to what you are used too.....

Quayside, will add another 20 mins of car time, and probably about that of boating time over you current situation....

MVYC, Fays, and Silver Sands are also other alternatives, as have been mentioned, and coming out of Manchester, you might find a better driving route.

I would not consider Harilla's landing, as was mentioned, the car drive time would be 30 mins longer, and to make the boat ride short you would have to cross the broads.... however you could make a longer boat ride when in rough weather, by going down through the six pack, under the bridge, cross the borads at that end and scoot over behind bear passing by Sheps.... over Harilla's for you location, just doesn't make sense....

While in one of your posts, you mentioned valet service hadn't worked out in the past, it is likely your most economical alternative, and likely you best chance for being ensured a spot.... Not all Valet services are the same. Harilla's with the current management company is great I know plenty fo satisfied members..... I have also heard good things about Fay's valet service......
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Thank you very much for the advice! I will just be calling around and trying to see what I can fine. Valet service didn’t work for us not because of the service, just because of the need to know a few hours ahead or certainly before closing time when you’re going to need the boat, sudden changes in our plans or our kids plans, it was all on us - We just needed more flexibility than valet can offer.
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You might consider trailering a boat. We trailer an 18 footer to get to the island and keep a 21 footer at the dock. Finding a slip will be difficult and if you do find one it will probably be on the wrong side of the lake.
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Another option is to try Dave's Motorboat Shoppe in Gilford. He has a large field area at his place and I believe if your trailering you may be able to rent a spot there for the season. You would have to do your own launch and retrieve as he offers no valet service but he is very close to Fays who has a boat ramp as well as Silver Sands.

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You might consider trailering a boat. We trailer an 18 footer to get to the island and keep a 21 footer at the dock. Finding a slip will be difficult and if you do find one it will probably be on the wrong side of the lake.
Indeed there's more than one of us that do that.

Not for everyone though there are days it really is a pain. Enough for me to spring for a valet or slip? Heck no!
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You might consider trailering a boat. We trailer an 18 footer to get to the island and keep a 21 footer at the dock. Finding a slip will be difficult and if you do find one it will probably be on the wrong side of the lake.
No issues parking the truck and trailer over night? I know it's not allowed everywhere...
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No issues parking the truck and trailer over night? I know it's not allowed everywhere...
Trailer parking can be complicated. I don’t know what options exist in Glendale for Gilford residents and if Meredith permits the Cattle Landing lot Mark and Mink folks will have have to park there.
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This is true especially with ongoing discussion of turning some of that parking space into "resident" only. We shall see how that all pans out - clearly the town of Meredith is looking at various options to address the parking situation at both Sheps and Cattle especially since it can be challenging during prime season.

Not sure there really is a good answer unless there is an increase in available parking. The supply at times falls short of demand.
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Thanks kawishiwi and webmaster. I know exactly where those are - was through there numerous time on my ski this past summer. Just never heard the markers being called 'x packs'. You learn something new everyday. As for your video...webmaster - did you just happen to have this very specific one or do you 'collect' similar videos from all over the lake?
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As for your video...webmaster - did you just happen to have this very specific one or do you 'collect' similar videos from all over the lake?
I shot that video in 2010. During that period I shot short videos of many landmarks and boat rides on the lake for use on this site. If you check my Youtube channel you'll see videos going under various bridges and through some passageways like Sally's Gut and the Hole in the Wall.

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Thank you very much for the advice! I will just be calling around and trying to see what I can fine. Valet service didn’t work for us not because of the service, just because of the need to know a few hours ahead or certainly before closing time when you’re going to need the boat, sudden changes in our plans or our kids plans, it was all on us - We just needed more flexibility than valet can offer.
MVYC valet is accommodating to islanders
Not all valet operate the same way. If you want to run errands or go to dinner, they just leave the boat in the water. If you leave Sunday night for the week, you leave it at the dock and they store it the next morning. One hour notice for launch. Lots of nearby parking for guests. I have no idea about availability. Call Carol at Irwin Marine, 524-6661.
Many Gilford islanders like Fay's and some rely on Glendale and don't have a summer slip. There may be some turnover and availability at Glendale Yacht Club and Gilford Yacht Club, both in Smith's Cove.
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So if you come up 93, and presumable come in 104.... Besides Sheps, as they aren't renewing your lease, check with Y-landing, Meredith Marine, Thurstons, and Winnisquam marine (formerly Channel)..... They are going to be your closet bets to what you are used too.....

Quayside, will add another 20 mins of car time, and probably about that of boating time over you current situation....

MVYC, Fays, and Silver Sands are also other alternatives, as have been mentioned, and coming out of Manchester, you might find a better driving route.

I would not consider Harilla's landing, as was mentioned, the car drive time would be 30 mins longer, and to make the boat ride short you would have to cross the broads.... however you could make a longer boat ride when in rough weather, by going down through the six pack, under the bridge, cross the borads at that end and scoot over behind bear passing by Sheps.... over Harilla's for you location, just doesn't make sense....

While in one of your posts, you mentioned valet service hadn't worked out in the past, it is likely your most economical alternative, and likely you best chance for being ensured a spot.... Not all Valet services are the same. Harilla's with the current management company is great I know plenty fo satisfied members..... I have also heard good things about Fay's valet service......
LIforrelaxin - I'm only 4 years on the lake and still learning place names and such on the water. You say - "going down through the six pack". What precisely are you referring to here? The only six packs I'm aware of are the ones I enjoy consuming and the ones I don't have because I enjoy consuming. Thanks for schooling me.
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LIforrelaxin - I'm only 4 years on the lake and still learning place names and such on the water. You say - "going down through the six pack". What precisely are you referring to here? The only six packs I'm aware of are the ones I enjoy consuming and the ones I don't have because I enjoy consuming. Thanks for schooling me.
There are 3 sequential pairs of black & red buoys just off the easternmost point of Long Island, known as "the six pack"
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You say - "going down through the six pack". What precisely are you referring to here?
Here's a video I took going through the six pack. If you look closely you'll see 3 black markers to port and 3 red markers to starboard.

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Depending on which side of the lake the OP is coming from Quayside may be a long ride.

There are usually plenty of slips that pop up over the winter in the Gilford area, you just need to be constantly checking.
MVYC increased member dues effective 2020 by $500. Presumably that will mean an increase in prices there and there will be some turnover. I don't know what impact this will have on Valet. If MVYC is going up, will this give others an excuse to raise their rates too as people leave MVYC seeking something cheaper?
In 2019, I know of a MVYC slip on D dock (38' x 13') went for $4900. One on A Dock (44' x 15') for $8000. Anybody know 2020 rates? I think a 24' boat in valet was ~$2300.
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