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Old 08-09-2017, 04:39 PM   #1
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I need a table saw, cordless drill, compound mitre saw, etc...

Are Lowes and Home Depot my choices? How about Middleton,'s, Meredith?
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The best place to buy tools is on line. The Home Depot site will have many more choices than the local Home Depot store. I just bought a variety of cordless tools thru Home Depot and other sellers on line. You get the best price, the most information, and the greatest variety from the comfort of your home. Five days later it is Christmas in July when the UPS guy shows up. I found Dewalt had the best value in cordless tools. However they did not have cordless belt sander so we went with a Rigid. Problem with using different makes is the batteries do not fit between manufacturers.
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Most places will "price match"... Check out Home Depot and Lowes and then go to the local guy with what you found and see if they will meet (or beat) the price.

I have found that they will "beat" the price with upgrading, meaning they may give you a bigger battery for your cordless drill etc.
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If you are a "tool guy" the plasticy junk on the shelves of Home Depot, Lowes, etc. will be pretty disappointing.

Online is probably your best option. If you want to see things in person first, a visit to Rockler, or a similar store, would probably be worthwhile (but more expensive).
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If you know what you want just do a search on line for the best price. I find Makita battery tools to my liking. Dewalt is also good. All my saws are Milwaukee with cords. I prefer using plug in saws. You want to try to stick to the same manufacturer with the battery tools so that the batteries are all interchangeable.
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Been using power tool every day for the last 30+ years.

Most have come from Heaths hardware or what is now Middelton BS.

Mostly Mikita the only DeWalts I have were given to me.

The last several years I've picked up a lot on craigslist Which I'll resell for cash in retirement.

Also have become fond of festools.
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"All things being equal, buy from a friend. All things not being equal, still buy from a friend." If price matters that much, give the local guy a chance to match.

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How much use will the power tools get?

I thought I had a pretty good set for use around the house.

When I built my log home each power tool was replaced with better, semi-pro grade tools. This was not by choice. The homeowner's grade tools physically failed when given daily work.

A memorable phone conversation with my wife from the spring of 1987:

"Honey, I need you to go to Coastal Tools in West Hartford to get me a new drill."
"I don't want to spend another $25 on more tools!!!"
"Don't worry, you won't. It's $129."

The tools replaced during that project include:

table saw
3/8" drill
1/2" drill
chainsaw
circular saw
electric screwdriver (replaced by a drywall screw gun).
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How much use will the power tools get?

I thought I had a pretty good set for use around the house.

When I built my log home each power tool was replaced with better, semi-pro grade tools. This was not by choice. The homeowner's grade tools physically failed when given daily work.

A memorable phone conversation with my wife from the spring of 1987:

"Honey, I need you to go to Coastal Tools in West Hartford to get me a new drill."
"I don't want to spend another $25 on more tools!!!"
"Don't worry, you won't. It's $129."

The tools replaced during that project include:

table saw
3/8" drill
1/2" drill
chainsaw
circular saw
electric screwdriver (replaced by a drywall screw gun).
router
When buying power tools it doesn't pay to cheap out. But you can get good quality tools from Home Depot. They also have cheap crap too. You have to know what you're buying. I have a Milwaukee skill saw and sawsall that I have had for 30 years. I have built 4 new houses and remodeled several others. But I went through several cheap ones before I relized that the cheap stuff is junk.
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When buying power tools it doesn't pay to cheap out. But you can get good quality tools from Home Depot. They also have cheap crap too. You have to know what you're buying. I have a Milwaukee skill saw and sawsall that I have had for 30 years. I have built 4 new houses and remodeled several others. But I went through several cheap ones before I relized that the cheap stuff is junk.
This. I have about six right angle grinders from harbor freight and for $10 each it's worth it to have a cut wheel, wire brush, grinder and flap wheel all mounted at once but they crap out constantly; a $40 version from Home Depot is really not much better.

All my recent purchases have been 18v Makita and have been super happy. Plenty of power and the batteries last well.

Even known brands have started making cheap junk. I've been through about 4 moderately priced skill saws while still having the one my dad bought from sears about 50 years ago.

Best I can say is try to buy local, pick it up and see how it's made and get good old used if you can find it.
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I like Makita also. My battery powered drills are all Makta and they never fail me.

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Even known brands have started making cheap junk. I've been through about 4 moderately priced skill saws while still having the one my dad bought from sears about 50 years ago.

Best I can say is try to buy local, pick it up and see how it's made and get good old used if you can find it.
Absolutely right. To combat price pressure from online and discounters, many big brands now supply lower quality versions to the big box stores and online suppliers. Best bet for quality is a local hardware store. (Same with gas grills and lawnmowers)
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I like Makita also. My battery powered drills are all Makta and they never fail me.

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Agreed, the 18V Makita stuff has been very dependable and rugged. I have dropped all of mine more than a few times, and they keep chugging.



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Semi related. I had a couple of the Makita battery packs go bad after years. Turns out you can open them and replace the individual cells for just a couple bucks each. PITA job but saves a pile of money.

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Probably, the cordless drill is the power tool that gets the most use. For about $18.73, the Walmart in Gilford has a Hyper Tough 18v cordless drill that is surprisingly good. It also has relatively low priced plug-in 110v drills and saws, drill bits, abrasives, and fasteners like screws and nails.

While the Gilford Walmart store doesn't usually carry table saws or mitre saws, you may want to go to www.walmart.com and do a search for mitre saw, or table saw .... just to check it out?
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Probably, the cordless drill is the power tool that gets the most use. For about $18.73, the Walmart in Gilford has a Hyper Tough 18v cordless drill that is surprisingly good. It also has relatively low priced plug-in 110v drills and saws, drill bits, abrasives, and fasteners like screws and nails.

While the Gilford Walmart store doesn't usually carry table saws or mitre saws, you may want to go to www.walmart.com and do a search for mitre saw, or table saw .... just to check it out?
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One piece of advice I would give anyone buying battery power tools is to buy only tools that utilize lithium ion batteries / power packs. NICD batteries while much cheaper are a thing of the past!

Lithium Ion batteries offer the following advantages over NICD...

More power with much less weight... More ergonomic tools offered because of this...

Consistent power from beginning to end of battery cycle even when battery is near fully drained...

Much less affected by cold temperatures...

No memory affect from charging. You can charge the battery anytime you want.

Increased run time...

Self discharge rate when not in use is extremely minimal. I believe it is less than 2% per month...

The advantages of lithium ion over NICD are well worth the extra cost. Dont waste your money on NICD tools.

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If you are just a weekend warrior and not a contractor, just go to Home Depot or Lowes.....You don't need to spend ridiculous amounts of money on name brands to have them last a long time. I have a LOT of power tools, and have had better luck with Ryobi stuff for drills and saws than my Dewalt stuff. For larger pieces like chop or table saws I would look to go name brand like Dewalt or Makita, but for drills, sawzalls, etc Ryobi works for me.
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If you are just a weekend warrior and not a contractor, just go to Home Depot or Lowes.....You don't need to spend ridiculous amounts of money on name brands to have them last a long time. I have a LOT of power tools, and have had better luck with Ryobi stuff for drills and saws than my Dewalt stuff. For larger pieces like chop or table saws I would look to go name brand like Dewalt or Makita, but for drills, sawzalls, etc Ryobi works for me.
My contractor friends are 50/50--some buy the cheapest hand tools (drills, etc.) they can so when they're dropped they're just replaced. The others buy the best, planning to get as much time out of them as possible.

I bought a Hitachi set about ten years ago--I'm not a contractor, but it's done siding, sheds, decks, etc. without a hiccup.

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My contractor friends are 50/50--some buy the cheapest hand tools (drills, etc.) they can so when they're dropped they're just replaced. The others buy the best, planning to get as much time out of them as possible.

I bought a Hitachi set about ten years ago--I'm not a contractor, but it's done siding, sheds, decks, etc. without a hiccup.

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I guess it depends on who is using them. If you have a lot of different workers using them and they get beat to crap, get left behind on a job, or fall off the truck, then sometimes it's best to buy cheap. I run an Auto repair shop and I have lost more tools than get broken because all my employees take tools from my box all the time. So when I replace the lost tools I go to Harbor Freight and buy cheap ones. The lifetime warrantee is no good if you don't have the tool. Losing Snap On tools makes me cry!
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I always try to buy the best quality I can afford for everything. In SF, I have all the high quality tools I need for any job. Problem is, I have to own two of everything so I can duplicate everything, cross-country, at the Lake. Wondering if a 3-D copier could duplicate everything from tools to shoes?
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I must recommend the 18volt Ridgid set from Home Depot. The Lifetime Service Agreement and full set of tools has been amazing, and the power they have is fantastic. I have built a 250sqft cabin using only these tools and a chop saw, the impact driver is powerful and the rest of the tools perform very well.

I recommend this set of tools because I have owned my set for 2 years and in that time have had a battery die and the charger quit. Home Depot replaced the charger in person immediately with no questions asked. The battery was replaced with a simple phone call to Ridgid Online who shipped out a new battery that arrived 5 days later. They honor their warranty!

Just make sure if you are buying them to buy the batteries as a part of a set, otherwise they only have a 3 year warranty.
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... am doing a search at walmart.com for a Hyper Tough brand casket .... low priced ... and hopefully built to last and last and last .... an eternal value ....plus what a happening name...... Hyper Tough!:
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If you just need a set for your summer place and will only use it for handyman stuff and not for everyday all day job work, its hard to beat this deal.
http://www.homedepot.com/p/Ryobi-18-...1894/300343012

I've had 3 sets of Ryobi for different locations over 12 years and while they are not my first choice I'm never had any problems. The value for a occasional homeowner handyman is pretty high.
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I have two 18V Roybi cordless drills and a reciprocating saw with lithium batteries from HD. They are used for home and camp maintenance and are fine for that.

Also a Hitachi compound miter saw and finish nailer from Lowe's that I used at camp to finish a room with tongue and grove paneling. These are not the every day use grade but fine for homeowner projects.
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I have a bunch of the Ryobi cordless stuff. Drill, impact drill/driver, reciprocating saw, circular saw, jig saw, etc. Some I have had for 10+ years, others 5 or so years. As much as I would like to replace them with a more "quality" tool like DeWalt, I just can't seem to kill them. I have had to replace some batteries, but that's OK, I would have to do that with any brand.
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This. I have about six right angle grinders from harbor freight and for $10 each it's worth it to have a cut wheel, wire brush, grinder and flap wheel all mounted at once but they crap out constantly; a $40 version from Home Depot is really not much better.

All my recent purchases have been 18v Makita and have been super happy. Plenty of power and the batteries last well.

Even known brands have started making cheap junk. I've been through about 4 moderately priced skill saws while still having the one my dad bought from sears about 50 years ago.

Best I can say is try to buy local, pick it up and see how it's made and get good old used if you can find it.
You can't get any cheaper than Harbor Freight they probably even beat out (cheap-wise) Home Cheapo...
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There is a store in Littleton NH. Love browsing the store when I am in the area.

I inherited my dad's Craftmen electric tools from the 70's, 80's. Still working like new. I had some later Makita's, I had to throw them away.
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I inherited my dad's Craftmen electric tools from the 70's, 80's. Still working like new. I had some later Makita's, I had to throw them away.
I have a 60 year old Craftsman table saw that I still use. The only problem is that it's not very portable. It's solid steel and weighs a tone. Most of the Craftsman power tools made today are junk.
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I have a 60 year old Craftsman table saw that I still use. The only problem is that it's not very portable. It's solid steel and weighs a tone. Most of the Craftsman power tools made today are junk.
Not just power tools, the entire Craftsman line has gone downhill over the last 10+ years. Craftsman was never the best tool made, but it was generally considered a safe buy for the average homeowner or shade tree mechanic. Now, it is mostly cost-engineered garbage.
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I need a table saw, cordless drill, compound mitre saw, etc...

Are Lowes and Home Depot my choices? How about Middleton,'s, Meredith?


Rands in Plymouth will surprise you as will Middletons in Meredith. Both awesome outfits.

Online and big box have there place, and I shop there too, but Keeping it local, when possible, and feeling good about supporting your local biz, with large purchases like these said tools, keeps us all going around for another season and hopefully many generations.
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I have two 18V Roybi cordless drills and a reciprocating saw with lithium batteries from HD. They are used for home and camp maintenance and are fine for that.

Also a Hitachi compound miter saw and finish nailer from Lowe's that I used at camp to finish a room with tongue and grove paneling. These are not the every day use grade but fine for homeowner projects.
I've got four Ryobi cordless drills I can't break. Non-Lithium batteries, but batteries are available online—"rebuilt" for about $25.

Each has two bubble levels to assist in drilling straight and level holes.

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Each has two bubble levels to assist in drilling straight and level holes.

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I agree APS! You know I have one of those that I keep in my bob house. I use it to power a scissor jack to raise and lower the house as needed. It was inexpensive and super powerful! That thing has been through hell and back. It's been frozen all winter, soaked in water, dropped on the ice numerous times but much like the EverReady bunny it just keeps going and going!

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I agree APS! You know I have one of those that I keep in my bob house. I use it to power a scissor jack to raise and lower the house as needed. It was inexpensive and super powerful! That thing has been through hell and back. It's been frozen all winter, soaked in water, dropped on the ice numerous times but much like the EverReady bunny it just keeps going and going!

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Hmmm... interesting use of a scissor jack! Is there any special connection needed or does the jack just mate up with the drill chuck?
I have been using a farm jack to raise my shack, which works great but I
Like the “power jack” idea!

That said, I have a DeWalt that eats batteries or the batteries are just junk.
A week after fully charging, the batteries are fully dead...just sitting on the bench.
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Hmmm... interesting use of a scissor jack! Is there any special connection needed or does the jack just mate up with the drill chuck?
I have been using a farm jack to raise my shack, which works great but I
Like the “power jack” idea!

That said, I have a DeWalt that eats batteries or the batteries are just junk.
A week after fully charging, the batteries are fully dead...just sitting on the bench.
Just simply cut the offset portion off the jack handle so you end up with a hexagon piece of hollow metal with the factory hook that engages into the jack. Chuck the right size socket with an adapter for your chuck that fits the hex shape into your drill and go to town!

Just make sure you use a an actual automotive scissor "jack" and not a "leveling" jack that's made for RV's as those are not strong enough...

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Just simply cut the offset portion off the jack handle so you end up with a hexagon piece of hollow metal with the factory hook that engages into the jack. Chuck the right size socket with an adapter for your chuck that fits the hex shape into your drill and go to town!

Just make sure you use a an actual automotive scissor "jack" and not a "leveling" jack that's made for RV's as those are not strong enough...

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Thank you! Sounds great...Harbor Freight here I come!
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I've got four Ryobi cordless drills I can't break. Non-Lithium batteries, but batteries are available online—"rebuilt" for about $25.

Each has two bubble levels to assist in drilling straight and level holes.

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I have 3 combo packs myself. I bought them because they were so cheap and I dont use them nearly like a contractor. To my surprize they have held up very well. But I did switch to Lithium batteries and love them. You do need a different charger though.
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One more use for my Roybi cordless drill with lithium batteries:

Now west of Asheville NC in our travel trailer which has scissors type stabilizing jacks on each corner. About 2 seconds each to set or retract with a 3/4" bit in the chuck. This is also my backup to the power tongue jack.
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Just simply cut the offset portion off the jack handle so you end up with a hexagon piece of hollow metal with the factory hook that engages into the jack. Chuck the right size socket with an adapter for your chuck that fits the hex shape into your drill and go to town!

Just make sure you use a an actual automotive scissor "jack" and not a "leveling" jack that's made for RV's as those are not strong enough...

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Couldn't find anyone home at a repair shop, but stumbled on the desirable scissors jack, as described above.

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Hurricane Irma clean-up duties had me returning to buy a pressure-washer.

My previous pressure-washer was gasoline-powered, cost $1500 reconditioned, could substitute for a Ditch-Witch in soil, and would flatten garden hoses after less than a minute's use! Pointed in the air, it would air-condition the entire front yard!

But, not wanting the trouble of gasoline-powered anything, I looked for an electric pressure-washer. Harbor Freight has a cheap Portland washer which is garbage. (Some reviews complained of breakage after ten minutes: brand-new, mine broke a fitting after three minutes of use).

So I moved to one for only $50 that was reconditioned—slight wear to a nozzle—and only happened to be a Ryobi.

Assembled in just a minute, I'm still using it every day—and very impressed. Not for children though, as they will remove patches of skin!

They're available at Home Depot for $170, with a three-year warrentee. (Mine, shown below, is the less-powerful electric model with small wheels).



I routinely check the negative reviews: Home Depot's negative reviews complain of oil/grease leaks. (Warrentee claims are hit-and-miss with Home Depot—save your receipts).

Even with daily use for a month, mine hasn't moved from its spot in the driveway, with no sign of a leak.

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I have 3 combo packs myself. I bought them because they were so cheap and I dont use them nearly like a contractor. To my surprize they have held up very well. But I did switch to Lithium batteries and love them. You do need a different charger though.
Ryobi now sells an "All-in-One" self-adjusting charger that recharges many different Ryobi batteries, including lithium. $33.

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I recently bought the 18V Ryobi drill and impact driver kit at Home Depot at Christmas on sale for $99. Although it works fine it is much bigger and heavier than my Makita. I find it more cumbersome to use esp in tight quarters. I find myself reaching for my old worn out Makita first until the battery runs low.
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Have found Ryobi tools to be super. Great value and ALL their tools use the same battery packs. I was so frustrated with buying other brand tools and finding them changing battery designs constantly. My Ryobi tools work great. Probably not for the professional, but mine have given great service. For a table say, bought Rigid at Home Depot....nice and portable with rolling stand. Ryobi even makes a pretty decent chop saw. It all depends on whether you need tools for your profession or just general homeowner use.
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I was going to buy the 24V Greenworks kit at Costco for $99 but I was a little hesitant about buying a brand that I never heard of. Supposedly they are a Chinese copy cat version of Makita and they have very good reviews. I almost returned the Ryobi kit and bought the Greenworks kit but I stuck with the Ryobi's. If I was using them for work every day I would have gone with the Makita kit. They are much more user friendly. You don't realize it until you are using both on a job at the same time.
I hung some kitchen cabinets by myself a few weeks ago and I'm not as strong as I use to be. I found it much easier to do with the Makita than the Ryobi. I had to hold the cabinet up with one hand and screw it in with the other. The Ryobi is bigger and heavier. It was very difficult to use on the tight space of the smaller 12" wide cabinet.
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Believe the ReStore in Plymouth has, located out back, a Delta Model-10, 10" table saw with a cast iron top and two side wings, 110v with a belt drive motor that looks pretty good for like $150 that has been there for a while.....plus five saw blades including one with about 60-carbide teeth that looks almost unused ...... which suggests they may let it go for $100 if you wave the green stuff around under their nose and walk out when they say 'no way' and wave the money around overhead, out in the parking lot, where they can see you ....... getting back into your Porsche suv ..... best to park it away, away, out of sight!

Then, return back in 10-minutes and do more negotiat'n .... walk'n out can be a good tactic ..... cause they no know if you be coming back, or what?

"Just listen up ..... dis here saw was brand new back in '68 .... dat's 50-years ago.....and it ain't worth no hundred & fifty dollars today ...... ayuh!"

They also have about five different dishwashers, refrigerators, and a huge, fancy-dancy kitchen 'island' with a real granite top for the not-so-low price of $1750 that had to come out of some mega mega millionaire's Lake Winnipesaukee tear-down or something! Possibly from the kitchen that was
home to the 1998 Boston Bruins' left wing before he got cut?

About the Delta Model-10; it looks like it was used indoors in a relatively dry space as it has just a small amount of rust on the large cast iron top. What it needs is some sandpaper and elbow grease to make the rust gone, plus Johnson's paste wax, and you got a beauty of a 110v 10" table saw for $150 which seems like a low price for all that heavy cast iron and steel quality.
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Believe the ReStore in Plymouth has an old smaller Craftsman, cast iron top, 110v table saw with a belt drive motor that looks pretty good for like $100 that has been there for a while.....which suggests they let it go for $50-75 if you wave the green stuff around under their nose and walk out when they say 'no way' and wave the money around overhead, out in the parking lot, where they can see you ....... getting back into your Porsche suv ..... best to park it away, away, out of sight!

Then, return back in 10-minutes and do more negotiat'n .... walk'n out can be a good tactic ..... cause they no know if you be coming back, or what?

Just listen ..... dis here saw was brand new back in '68 .... dat's 50-years ago.....and it ain't worth no hundred dollars!
Them there old table saws weigh more than 16oz's per lb.
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I too have had great luck with Ryobi, I buy most stuff from Amazon, but I always go to my local hardware store for tools with the price and they almost always match it. If they can't and it's close I still but from them. Everything I've bought from harbor freight SUCKS, I had high hopes when I saw there prices.
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