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Old 03-28-2024, 02:08 PM   #1
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Default The Breeze: By the Bay is coming to Meredith

The owners of The Breeze will be opening a new restaurant in Meredith at the site of The Lakeview Tavern, which has closed.

https://www.laconiadailysun.com/news...f4a15e721.html
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Old 03-28-2024, 02:17 PM   #2
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The owners of The Breeze will be opening a new restaurant in Meredith at the site of The Lakeview Tavern, which has closed.

https://www.laconiadailysun.com/news...f4a15e721.html
What a hatchet job by the LDS. Another reason to hate this rag. We went to the prior establishment once and it sucked. I am surprised it lasted as long as it did. And anyone who knows Brad and Lynn know that they are very upstanding people who have contributed greatly to our community.

We enjoy the Breeze in Gilford, so it will be nice to see the offering in Meredith. I hope they are open by Summer so we can go there by boat midweek.
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We're related.
I don't see anything in the story that would be detrimental.

The property was bought with the understanding of the lease being as the court ruled. The Lakeview could have paid the higher rent if it so chose.
It chose to close.

The Breeze was willing to pay the higher rent.
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We're related.
I don't see anything in the story that would be detrimental.

The property was bought with the understanding of the lease being as the court ruled. The Lakeview could have paid the higher rent if it so chose.
It chose to close.

The Breeze was willing to pay the higher rent.
You are right, John. There is nothing in the story that specifically badmouths the Leightons. Lynn had an opportunity to speak and handled the situation with class.

However, I guess it's the overall tenor of the story that annoys me. Firstly, how is this news? Secondly, it was written to engender sympathy for the poor bar owner who was evicted by the mean landlord, not for informing the public.
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I'm just looking forward to a new place to try for dinner close to my house.
Personally, I didn't care for the Lakeview Tavern. I had a couple of bad experiences there when they first opened and never went back.
The Lakeview Delli will be opening soon as a Japanese steak house.
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How is it that if the tenant signed a twelve year leease less than twelve years ago it somehow morphed into a month-to-month tenancy?

Obviously there is a legal basis to do so or else the trial judge would have been overruled on appeal, but with only the bare bones explanation in the newspaper to guide me I just can't see it.
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I know nothing of this situation but...

A lease could have scheduled rent escalations.

If the tenant cannot or wishes not to pay the higher rent a landlord may decide to release them.

This would be more likely if there was a new tenant, willing to pay more rent, waiting in the wings.

Again, I know nothing of this case and am providing general info..
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How is it that if the tenant signed a twelve year leease less than twelve years ago it somehow morphed into a month-to-month tenancy?

Obviously there is a legal basis to do so or else the trial judge would have been overruled on appeal, but with only the bare bones explanation in the newspaper to guide me I just can't see it.
The lease may have been in stages where there are rent increases or options to continue.
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I think option to renew...
But a new lease must not have been signed.

Regardless, the court worked it out and the end result is the end result.
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Hit the Breeze Meredith for lunch yesterday. The renovation to the interior is amazing. The bar is now along the exterior wall at the sidewalk, so you can look out to the lake when seated at the bar. The top half of that wall is all windows, which are in garage door-like doors that can open up in the nice weather. The exterior wall on the Plymouth Street side is also all windows, so the whole place is very bright. Wide-plank wood floors and dark wood beams on lighter wood ceiling provide a great atmosphere, along with a fieldstone gas fireplace, and the face of the bar is fieldstone as well. Compared to the tired, dingy atmosphere of the old Lakeview, the transformation is stunning.

The menu is extensive with a lot of great sounding choices. I had the Caesar salad with grilled chicken, which was excellent. The boss had the clam chowder, (only comes in a bowl, not a cup), which was also very good, (a tad salty and not a thick as I would prefer, but still very good).

The only nit-picky thing is that it was very loud, and the place was not full. Definitely a great addition to the town's restaurant scene.
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Thanks for the detailed description. Close concept to the Breeze in Glendale which is also very loud/noisy. Restaurant soups tend to get a little salty if they sit in a warming kettle for a while and the liquid steams off over time. On the other hand it will thicken over time to your preferred consistency.
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Hit the Breeze Meredith for lunch yesterday. The renovation to the interior is amazing. The bar is now along the exterior wall at the sidewalk, so you can look out to the lake when seated at the bar. The top half of that wall is all windows, which are in garage door-like doors that can open up in the nice weather. The exterior wall on the Plymouth Street side is also all windows, so the whole place is very bright. Wide-plank wood floors and dark wood beams on lighter wood ceiling provide a great atmosphere, along with a fieldstone gas fireplace, and the face of the bar is fieldstone as well. Compared to the tired, dingy atmosphere of the old Lakeview, the transformation is stunning.

The menu is extensive with a lot of great sounding choices. I had the Caesar salad with grilled chicken, which was excellent. The boss had the clam chowder, (only comes in a bowl, not a cup), which was also very good, (a tad salty and not a thick as I would prefer, but still very good)

The only nit-picky thing is that it was very loud, and the place was not full. Definitely a great addition to the town's restaurant scene.
My wife and I went the first weekend it opened. It was warm enough that they had the garage doors open, but we sat at the bar with our jackets on. The food and service were great, and the place looked amazing. I foresee a tough time getting a seat at the bar on a beautiful summer night.
It was noisy but also very busy that night.
I wasn't that impressed with the Glendale Breeze.
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Hit the Breeze Meredith for lunch yesterday. The renovation to the interior is amazing. The bar is now along the exterior wall at the sidewalk, so you can look out to the lake when seated at the bar. The top half of that wall is all windows, which are in garage door-like doors that can open up in the nice weather. The exterior wall on the Plymouth Street side is also all windows, so the whole place is very bright. Wide-plank wood floors and dark wood beams on lighter wood ceiling provide a great atmosphere, along with a fieldstone gas fireplace, and the face of the bar is fieldstone as well. Compared to the tired, dingy atmosphere of the old Lakeview, the transformation is stunning.

The menu is extensive with a lot of great sounding choices. I had the Caesar salad with grilled chicken, which was excellent. The boss had the clam chowder, (only comes in a bowl, not a cup), which was also very good, (a tad salty and not a thick as I would prefer, but still very good).

The only nit-picky thing is that it was very loud, and the place was not full. Definitely a great addition to the town's restaurant scene.
Arrived closer to two on 11/23 for a first visit with a party of 4. Guessing 1/3 full when we arrived and 2/3 full by 3-ish. Staff, service, meals and drinks were all great. Great interior description by MeredithMan. Regarding noise level, it was a little loud, but a big improvement as compared to before the renovation. Very complimentary addition to the restaurant scene in town!
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Thanks for the detailed description. Close concept to the Breeze in Glendale which is also very loud/noisy. Restaurant soups tend to get a little salty if they sit in a warming kettle for a while and the liquid steams off over time. On the other hand it will thicken over time to your preferred consistency.
Just curious why so many people want chowders thick……you’re just eating flour.
Originally all chowders were just milk and cream based and somewhere along the line we thought it would be trendy to thicken them…..to each his own but I prefer the old Yankees style
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Just curious why so many people want chowders thick……you’re just eating flour.
Originally all chowders were just milk and cream based and somewhere along the line we thought it would be trendy to thicken them…..to each his own but I prefer the old Yankees style
I have witnessed this change.

Woodman's in Essex MA has been a family favorite since I was a kid.

Their clam chowder was semi clear decades ago.

It had large clam parts in it and it tasted wonderful to me.

Now Woodman's and so many others serve something akin to Snow's canned chowder.
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Just curious why so many people want chowders thick……you’re just eating flour.
Originally all chowders were just milk and cream based and somewhere along the line we thought it would be trendy to thicken them…..to each his own but I prefer the old Yankees style
Because SOUP is “soupy!” Many of us have become accustomed to a heavier, more hearty concoction called CHOWDER. The thickerer, the betterer! 😊
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If it's too soupy, to me, it's soup, it isn't chowdah. (Manhattan style? Ugh). Seems the latest trend, especially in grocery store concoctions, is to make potato soup and drag a couple of clams through it. If a piece of clam falls off, it is clam chowder.

To return to the topic at hand, chowdah at the Breeze is very good.

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I have witnessed this change.

Woodman's in Essex MA has been a family favorite since I was a kid.

Their clam chowder was semi clear decades ago.

It had large clam parts in it and it tasted wonderful to me.

Now Woodman's and so many others serve something akin to Snow's canned chowder.
Woodman's is an awful tourist trap—I've got a whole story on that—but their chowder, when I got it twice, was not thick at all.

Lord's Harborside-now-Hobb's used to have incredible chowder in the old, thin broth, tradition. Loaded with actual seafood rather than just potatoes and celery.

I like most chowders, though—it's like pizza to me.

*Oh! To add: Yankee Smokehouse's corn chowder is a local fave chowder.

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Originally all chowders were just milk and cream based and somewhere along the line we thought it would be trendy to thicken them…..to each his own but I prefer the old Yankees style
30+ years ago when my wife and I were dating, she invited me to her parents for the weekend. My mother-in-law-to-be asked if I would like some of her homemade fish chowder. I have been a seafood lover since childhood, so of course I said yes. Little did I know that my MIL-to-be did not use any cream, butter, or salt in anything she cooked. As we sat down to eat, she handed me a bowl of essentially warm skim milk with chunks of either haddock or cod. I gagged it down so as not to be disrespectful, but that was the end of the road for me and thin chowder!
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Woodman's is an awful tourist trap—I've got a whole story on that—but their chowder, when I got it twice, was not thick at all.

Lord's Harborside-now-Hobb's used to have incredible chowder in the old, thin broth, tradition. Loaded with actual seafood rather than just potatoes and celery.

I like most chowders, though—it's like pizza to me.

*Oh! To add: Yankee Smokehouse's corn chowder is a local fave chowder.

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I am a bit of a fried clam-aholic.

For me, Woodman's is a pilgrimage.

In spite of years of expansion at their location, they have retained some of their original wooden booths.

I can sit at one of those booths and reminisce about being there with my father and his cousin sixty years ago.

Back onto the topic of the new Breeze location in Meredith...

We hope to try it soon!
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Just curious why so many people want chowders thick……you’re just eating flour.
Originally all chowders were just milk and cream based and somewhere along the line we thought it would be trendy to thicken them…..to each his own but I prefer the old Yankees style
Chowders have evolved for the worse, for sure. The best clam chowder that I ever had was at the Country Fair Inn in Moultonborough. it was thick as it could be, but not from flour. The thickness came from the abundance of clams and potatoes and onions, etc. And it was always finished off with butter floating on the top. What a great memory!
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Just curious why so many people want chowders thick……you’re just eating flour.
Originally all chowders were just milk and cream based and somewhere along the line we thought it would be trendy to thicken them…..to each his own but I prefer the old Yankees style
Agree on all counts. I’ll get Rhode Island style when I can but it’s hard to find.
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My go to of all time is Howard Johnson’s clam chowder. BTW it was the recipe of Jacque Pepin a neighbor of mine here in CT. He turned down being executive chef to JFK to be HJ’s head chef. Little history lesson. You can see him prepare it on YouTube videos if you’re interested.
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Wife and I dropped by the Breeze today. Prices are fair. Food and drinks were excellent. Atmosphere was good. Can understand everyone’s noise concerns. But, don’t let it stop you from visiting


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30+ years ago when my wife and I were dating, she invited me to her parents for the weekend. My mother-in-law-to-be asked if I would like some of her homemade fish chowder. I have been a seafood lover since childhood, so of course I said yes. Little did I know that my MIL-to-be did not use any cream, butter, or salt in anything she cooked. As we sat down to eat, she handed me a bowl of essentially warm skim milk with chunks of either haddock or cod. I gagged it down so as not to be disrespectful, but that was the end of the road for me and thin chowder!
Over 60 years ago my late mother prepared the same fish chowder as described above, and it was a family tradition on many Friday nights. I also gagged it down and washed it away with anything available. To this very day I refuse to even consider eating any fish chowder at the risk an early trip to the bathroom porcelain. Just the very thought of it makes my stomach roll. Yuck !!!!!!!
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Wife and I dropped by the Breeze today. Prices are fair. Food and drinks were excellent. Atmosphere was good. Can understand everyone’s noise concerns. But, don’t let it stop you from visiting


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