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I was driving on 93 north today between Concord and exit 17 and noticed a trooper going 65 in the left lane ahead of me. He was following what turned out to be a lady traveling in the left lane. He followed her for a few miles, at least 2 or 3, all the while the right lane was clear. He lit her up and pulled her over, I'm pretty sure she got a talking to or a ticket for traveling in the left lane.
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I am glad to hear that, ITD. I hate it when people park themselves in the passing lane!
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The Trooper must know that a person can pass on the right per TITLE XXI MOTOR VEHICLES CHAPTER 265 RULES OF THE ROAD. 265:19 When Overtaking on the Right is Permitted. – The driver of a vehicle may overtake and pass on the right of another vehicle only under the following conditions: I. When the vehicle overtaken is making or about to make a left turn; II. Upon a roadway with unobstructed pavement of sufficient width for 2 or more lines of vehicles moving lawfully in the direction being traveled by the overtaking vehicle; III. The driver of a vehicle may overtake and pass another vehicle upon the right only under conditions permitting such movement in safety. Such movement shall not be made by driving off the roadway. http://www.gencourt.state.nh.us/rsa/...265/265-19.htm . . .
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That being said, there was absolutely no reason for her to be in the left lane, she was in a spot where the right lane was clear for at least a mile ahead of her and a half mile behind her. There is no reason to be in the passing lane in this instance and someone who does this is a poor driver in my humble opinion. As to whether it is a ticketable offense, I'll leave that to the law experts that frequent this forum. |
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She has to yield if she's not traveling "normal speed of traffic"
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Section 265:16 265:16 Drive on Right Side of Roadway; Exceptions. – I. Upon all roadways of sufficient width a vehicle shall be driven upon the right half of the roadway, except as follows: (a) When overtaking and passing another vehicle proceeding in the same direction under the rules governing such movement; (b) When an obstruction exists making it necessary to drive to the left of the center of the way; provided, any person so doing shall yield the right of way to all vehicles traveling in the proper direction upon the unobstructed portion of the way within such distance as to constitute an immediate hazard; (c) Upon a roadway divided into 3 marked lanes for traffic under the rules applicable thereon; (d) Upon a city street designated and signposted for one-way traffic. II. Upon all roadways any vehicle proceeding at less than the normal speed of traffic at the time and place and under the conditions then existing shall be driven in the right-hand lane then available for traffic, or as close as practicable to the right-hand curb or edge of the roadway, except when overtaking and passing another vehicle proceeding in the same direction or when preparing for a left turn at an intersection or into a private road or driveway. III. Upon any roadway having 4 or more lanes for moving traffic and providing for 2-way movement of traffic, no vehicle shall be driven to the left of the center line of the roadway, except when authorized by official traffic control devices designating certain lanes to the left side of the center of the roadway for use by traffic not otherwise permitted to use such lanes, or except as permitted under I(b) hereof. Source. RSA 262-A:15. 1963, 330:1. 1981, 146:1, eff. Jan. 1, 1982. |
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I don't like it when people hold up traffic in the left lane and they should be stopped by a trooper if they stay in that lane and don't travel at "normal speeds".
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It is just as illegal to pass on the right as it is to take up the passing lane when not passing and even more dangerous. I believe the law you quoted applies only to local roads not highways. Unless they changed something it is illegal to pass on the right when on a highway. Yes all those who love to fly up the right side when there are two lanes that merge into one like at the lights in Meredith, are in fact breaking the law. Even thought many who are in a rush do it, the right lane is meant to merge traffic not as a passing lane. People who pass on the right are actually putting more people in harm then those on the highway who block the passing lane are, so I believe the police look at those idiots as more of a problem to public safety and would tend target them first. All those drivers who make it a practice of pulling over into the breakdown lane when making a right turn are in fact also breaking the law.
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265:19 When Overtaking on the Right is Permitted. –The driver of a vehicle may overtake and pass on the right of another vehicle only under the following conditions: I. When the vehicle overtaken is making or about to make a left turn; II. Upon a roadway with unobstructed pavement of sufficient width for 2 or more lines of vehicles moving lawfully in the direction being traveled by the overtaking vehicle; III. The driver of a vehicle may overtake and pass another vehicle upon the right only under conditions permitting such movement in safety. Such movement shall not be made by driving off the roadway. |
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And the last few posts are examples of why the rules should be changed. All these exceptions and special cases, no one really knows for sure.
Like I said earlier. Make it simple. Passing and passing lane on the left. No passing on the right. Enforce these simple rules, and eventually everyone figures it out and things flow more smoothly. |
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Huh?...just because you don't know the rules doesn't mean they need to change. It simply means you need to know where to find them or how to ask questions.
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You just shouldn't drive in the passing lane, unless you are trying to pass. That's why it's called the passing lane…….
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Just a suggestion for future comments. Here is the latest NH Drivers Manual...See page 42 Thanks, Rusty
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Look at this chart and you will see that NH only has 11% who are uninsured drivers: http://www.automotive-fleet.com/chan...motorists.aspx
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So the chances are 1 in 9 that, if a person gets clipped
by a car, in NH, there will be no chance of recovery unless, of course, the clippER is a zillionaire and just didn't want to "waste" money on insurance. Think about just who, among us, chooses to go uninsured. I find it's a scary thought. |
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While the rate of uninsured drivers is interesting, what I would be really interested in is the rate of uninsured accidents.
How often does an uninsured NH driver cause damage? If this was a huge problem we would already have an insurance requirement in the law. My one experience with an uninsured driver was an unlicensed driver from Massachusetts. I'm not trying to throw stones at our southern neighbors but that table shows the rate of uninsured licensed drivers, not the rate of uninsured people behind the wheel of a car. As a side note, some of the people on this thread need a drivers-ed refresher course. |
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I'll throw stones..... I think if some of these "sanctuary" towns down here were put on the hook for the actions of their "refugees" then things would improve, and I am specifically talking about unlicensed illegals who cause damage or worse, death. |
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MA-4%, ME-4%, VT-7%,CT-10%, NH-11%, RI-18%; from the chart above; new england is relatively small in area compared to the rest of the 48-states, and here in new england, Rhode Island stands out with a relatively very high rate at 18%. Sure, I have heard that Rhode Island is sometimes called "the big hair state", but I gotta wonder why it is also the big uninsured & licensed-to-drive state? Why, why, why ...... anybody know why so high in Rhode Island and does it have anything to do with all that big hair?
With a population of about 1,050,000 people, 2012-wikipedia, Rhode Island has fewer people than Maine-1,329,000 and New Hampshire-1,320,000, and more than Vermont-626,000, so how come R.I. has so many uninsured? What's the problem down there in Rhode Island? ....say-hey....are there too many drunken sailors.....all three sheets to the wind....down in Newport on Narragansett Bay....that they cannot afford some car insurance coverage cause they is too busy drinking and sailing? While it is pretty easy to go figure the New Hampshire number at 11% ....what the heck.....people just throw their arms up in the air and scream that this is the live free or die state..here in New Hampshire...car insurance is optional for you unless you have a bad driving history or something....so's the 11% is probably due to it being optional and many cannot afford it or something? After all, here in New Hampshire it is not too unusual to occasionally see a vehicle that's been all smashed up but still being driven on a regular basis......a sure sign of no insurance coverage.
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Over the telephone, I quickly bought into a policy with a company known for "lower rates". When it turned out to be nearly double my present coverage, I quit them without cancelling my other policy. So I had two nearly-identical policies overnight. That didn't matter to the state, who sent me an official letter demanding my driver's license and registration tags. Yet almost a quarter of this state's drivers drive uninsured! |
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I thought so too. My brother got hit-totally the other person's fault and she had to buy insurance after that. It is only liability they need to buy after an accident. So if someone smashes up their own car and only carries liability, they might choose to drive around with it smashed up. However, depending on the damage, they might not get it inspected the next time it is due.
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Individuals found at fault for an uninsured accident are required to get insurance.
Therefore someone could be driving around with a car that has been in an accident and still not have insurance. http://www.nh.gov/safety/divisions/d.../insurance.htm
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The fact that it is allowed doesn't make it right as many have posted, but is also indicated by the fact that it is in fact illegal in most states in NE. As for the insurance thing, unfortunately people like you who have to have something hit close to home literally before they open their eyes and realize something is wrong with it. Lets just hope it is not a loved one who suffers at the hands of an uninsured and you or your family is left fighting for years and years in court with the insurance company.
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Your arrogance on this forum is getting to be out of control. I'll just let it go because you are not worth getting banned from this well run Lakes region forum.
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Just an fyi... it is legal to pass on the right not only in NH but all of New England. Here's basically what Mass, Maine, Vermont, Connecticut, Rhode Island and NH say, pretty much all the same... "The driver of a vehicle may, if the roadway is free from obstruction and of sufficient width for two or more lines of moving vehicles, overtake and pass upon the right of another vehicle when the vehicle overtaken is (a) making of about to make a left turn, (b) upon a one-way street, or (c) upon any roadway on which traffic is restricted to one direction of movement." Dan |
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I'm waiting for the "flying car". Then they can pass me overhead. As long as I don't have a convertible with the top down.
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I still like my rules (of course! :-) )
Doesn't matter what the speed limit is. Doesn't matter what speed I'm going. Doesn't matter what speed the person behind me wants to go. If that person wants to go faster, I let them. As I am not a LEO, I figure it's not my job to force that person to go a certain speed. As soon as safely possible, I let them get by. Keeps my blood pressure down, probably theirs too. And there's sometimes an added benefit, as just happened to me on Rt 28 between Alton and Wolfeboro at about 6:15 last night. I was going about 60mph. Speed limit is 55. A red truck came up fast behind and started following close, clearly wishing to go faster. At the next passing area, I pulled a bit into the breakdown lane and slowed a bit. Of course, he went by. I then had the pleasure of smiling at him and the Alton officer who had pulled him over a few miles later. Made my night... |
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I believe 20 or 30 years ago the Feds made states accept things like allowing you to pass on the right on a divided highway to unify the driving laws across the country, they made this a requirement if a state wished to accept federal money for highway improvements and maintenance.
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That red truck might have saved you from being pulled over. Probably not, but you never know. It is aggravating when you are going the speed limit or a little over and then someone tailgates you and you have to pull over a little to let him by. I'm glad that he got stopped.
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I was living in Florida the year it went into effect in NH. I was very surprised when I moved back, at the increase of drivers that I thought were breaking the law. It does keep things moving.
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As a life-long commuter, I find the ideas of "don't pass on the right" and "keep right except to pass" quaint. These are throwbacks to a different time of nice, polite country roads. They really don't make any sense on high traffic interstates.
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I agree things do move better. I was frustrated because I started to get into the right lane to allow them to pass and I guess I just wasn't fast enough in some cases.
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I prefer to drive in the passing lane when there is no traffic. I have a bit more time to react in the event that a deer decides to run across the road. ( I have been involved in 2 incidents where this has happened). I especially prefer the passing lane at night with no traffic.
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This would solve the dilemma!
If only I had one of these!
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Make me think
Reading this post reminded me of a George Carlin quote "Have you ever noticed that anybody driving slower than you is an idiot, and anyone going faster than you is a maniac?"
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That is just about the funniest cartoon I've ever seen...and you put a caption to it that made it even funnier.
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