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12-29-2019, 01:00 PM | #1 |
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I was just reminded that people whose boats are not registered in NH don't contribute to the costs of using the lake. Excellent point don't you think?
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But if we are going to argue that kayaks need to pay a fee to contribute to the services their owners use, then we must argue that boats the come in from another state should contribute, don't you agree?
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Paddleboards Next?
Perhaps the next watercraft to require registration will be paddleboards. OUCH!
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12-29-2019, 05:08 PM | #6 |
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How about canoes and row boats ?
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12-29-2019, 05:46 PM | #7 |
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By paddling, rowing or sailing (a sailboat under 12') you really save a lot on the annual registration, motor, gasoline, and insurance by not having any annual registration, motor, gasoline, or insurance. The cost for annual NH motorboat registration starts at about $50/year.
So, paying $10/year is very small potatoes compared to what you save by going "human power." In addition, the law says it applies to paddle/row vessels launched from a public launch ramp, and does not apply to paddle/row vessels launched from private property. .... NH needs to keep on paddling!
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At one time out of state registered boats could not operate on the lake.
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12-29-2019, 06:33 PM | #9 |
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So this is interesting.... if you read the bill being proposed. This does not appear to be a mandatory "fee". Instead it establishes a "donation" program for operators of non motorized boats. The F&G shall administer it.
http://www.gencourt.state.nh.us/bill...xtFormat=amend Not sure where the author of the Union Leader article got his information, clearly didn't he actually read the bill. |
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12-30-2019, 06:01 AM | #11 | |
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12-29-2019, 07:32 PM | #12 |
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Last month I noticed several leaves floating in the lake.
They had fallen from one of my trees. This week I got a notice in the mail telling me to register them! |
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This bill has been brought up in the past, or something similar, and has always died. However, there is some validity to the issues brought up by more and more kayaks. Not on the lakes so much, but the ones who test themselves on spring river rapids and don't pass the test. Fish and Game and MP still have to do search and rescue or recovery.
As someone who pays power boat registration fees that benefit ramps and access that I don't use, I'm happy to have yakkers contribute to these facilities. However, it looks like, after $3 overhead, the money goes 50% to Navigation safety fund (MP) and the other 50% of this fee goes to lake restoration and preservation (e.g. milfoil control). Nothing for ramps? The big hangup is, nobody has any idea how many kayaks are out there. It's hard to justify a new fee when you don't have any idea how much money it will generate, unless you just like new fees. If it doesn't bring in enough, just raise it next year. Here's the bill: http://gencourt.state.nh.us/bill_sta...txtFormat=html |
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As I've said before, live fee or die.
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12-30-2019, 09:12 AM | #17 |
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Was a state employee for 46 years. Thus I'll claim my right to complain about fees.
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12-30-2019, 10:10 PM | #18 |
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If mandatory it would be hard to apply
First off our family owns 7 kayaks and 2 canoes. 7 out of 9 are brightly colored. And all of our life jackets are bright red or yellow. I would not be for a mandatory fee but as the real bill to be introduced offers, I could picture donating a fee but don’t feel it should be required because this bill is not specific to lake Winni but it would be all lakes; rivers and ponds regardless of size across the entire state. That would make enforcement ridiculous. Also that is not a small flag the other bill wants, it is 4’ We don’t have motors (elect/gas) on any of ours but I know in MA you have to have a canoe registered to use an engine and I can see that.
I also think that a lot of people that kayak and canoe give to various non-profit groups like loon preservation; lakes region conservation trust, New Hampshire Lakes Association, lake Winnipesaukee association and similar across the state, I do. Crazy bill cause I could see bikes next like someone else said. Besides New Hampshire is the live free or die state.
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