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05-17-2019, 05:13 PM | #101 |
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I just hope this guy has some common courtesy to keep the wakes down when near shoreline, especially with the lake at this high level. That vessel has potential to do some serious damage to the shoreline and personal property. I believe NH has a law on the books which states that a vessel captain is responsible for damages done by his wake (but I could be wrong).
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As stated above, the Sophie C and the Doris E produce much larger wakes than this boat will. My experience is that their wakes are larger than the Mount Washington. However, the increasing problem on the lake is the "Wake Setter" boats and other boats designed specifically to make a large wake. This new 56 foot boat may pass by once or twice and leave a wake. The Wake Setter boats may set up for a few hours in front of your house while everyone on the boat takes a turn in the lake. Hours of heavy wakes washing up on your front yard. This is a real threat, one that is happening now. I saw the first one yesterday, with a surfer in the water, in front of my house. The wake from that boat washed several feet over the sea wall and onto my property. It is only going to get worse. |
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Huh?
The Mount barely makes a wake. Heck my 22’ Eastern will produce a bigger wake than the Mount till she planes... The Sophie C and Doris E are another story however!
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Here’s a Boat US article on the subject: https://www.boatus.com/seaworthy/mag...-liability.asp Something for everyone to consider whether we like it or not... And, The Mount makes almost no wake ever since they upgraded the engines a few years ago. |
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05-17-2019, 09:24 PM | #107 |
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In 2009 The Mount Washington qualified to receive a federal grant of about one million dollars through the Obama Admin's - Cash for Clunkers - EPA program and replaced their two 1946 diesels with two new Caterpillar clean diesel engines with installation completed in 2010.
The old diesels were 64-years old, voluminous in size, and well known for their familiar and iconic whosh-whosh-whosh sound which has been replaced with two new 2009 yellow Cats that are very efficient but emit an unimpressive buzz sound. https://www.fosters.com/article/2009...WS02/707169765 ..... going from the old whoosh-whoosh-whoosh to the new buzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz The old engines and the new engines all make a similar wake which seems flat and smooth for a 230' ship moving along at about 20-mph. So smooth that towing a 14-year old water skier on two skis on a 75' tow with mediocre skill is a piece-o-cake! Much like the 2003 crash of the Old Man on the Mountain, the demise of the MS Mount Washington's iconic whoosh-whoosh-whoosh sound is deeply missed by many lake area residents. Sondra Kaputnitz of Wolfeboro says she just starts to cry, every time she hears that awful buzzzzzzzzzzzz sound, cruis'n on down the lake. ....... exclaiming ...... it is just so totally dreadful! ....... awwwwggggghhhhhhh
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Check out video of interior here. All I can say is WOW!!! https://www.marinemax.com/boats-for-...-myers/6999300
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Holy cow!!! Hilarious there is a payment calculator st the bottom of the page. If you need to use it you can’t afford this boat.
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Some random, trying to disparage others?... You are certainly not helping your "cause". You do not own waterfront property of any kind, yet you spew venom about those that do? Take your "dog" to the park. And please clean up the poop behind him/her. |
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John Spooner / Diamond Shine have posted some additional pics of it on Facebook, as it is getting cleaned and prepped for launch.
I'm kind of surprised he didn't follow the current trend for boats like this to do the name on the transom in 3D backlit letters. Guess he wanted to save some cash Should be a fun summer for its inaugural launch.
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are they still trying to sell their mansion on gov. island? what are they going to do with that thing if they do? i would imagine it might be a tad difficult to find a slip big enough for it elsewhere. there's always valet i guess.. can you imagine having to launch and load that sucker every time the owner wanted to go out?!?
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I know tons of people financing million dollar boats. The prices on some used boats, particularly the high-demand center consoles like Freeman, don't follow the same depreciation curve and you can end up "owning" one of these boats for a few years with a lot less net out of pocket than you would think. I don't think this boat falls in that category (eg: it is likely to depreciate heavily the first year), it still would not surprise me to see it financed, not for "lack of cash" reasons, but for "cash management" reasons.
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Really?
I don't care how much money you have, but a boat this size (if true) on the lake? The owner must be afraid of going on the ocean!
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So why was the post so “top secret “?
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Took a cruise around the lake this weekend. Got a chance to look at this boat, I must say, it doesn't look as big as some of the other boats around it. Might be because its not as tall as the others?
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We just saw the boat waiting for a spot at the Meredith docks and I will admit that it looked smaller in person than I anticipated, too. We didn’t stick around to see how long they had to wait for a spot, but it looked like they had a full crew onboard watching the docks for an opening.
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Pictures, please?
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Huh? I was hoping for some pics of the Galeon hanging from the crane, and in the water. I'm not sure what your post is about?
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Sleek and fast
We were just pulling anchor after finishing lunch yesterday in Saunders Bay and noticed the new Galeon coming out of the marina. It came up to speed quickly, heading towards the end of Governors Island. Decided to pursue it just to watch it and maybe get a quick video. We pretty much caught up when it really poured it on. As I matched it's speed, it started to pull away at close to 30 mph. It was fun to watch it run but it sure is more boat than I'd ever need! I think I read that at cruising speed it burns about 40GPH.
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Can you imagine having to dock your boat that close to the other boats all the time even without the wind?
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First, Learn to Sail...
Did the skipper NOT have sailing experience? When you have to "work with the wind", you gain a greater respect for Mother Nature. That boat was SO large, the skipper might not have seen that he had docking-help from another boat!
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Instead of a speed limit, the state of New Hampshire ought to limit boat lengths permitted to ratio of lake size. This boat should be on the ocean. Apparently the Captain has no -----
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Personally, I don't believe we need any more regulations, we have more than enough when it comes to the lake and boating. Maybe a bit more common sense and courtesy, but that can't be legislated
While I do agree that the boat may be a bit "large" for Winni, it's not my boat and not my money. It's a free country and as long as the vessel is operated in a safe and couteous manner, I couldn't care less. "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." |
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The next recession will shrink the size and the amount of boats on the lake just like the last one did.
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I will not knock the guy for being able to create a successful business. But like the Summa Humma boats his fascination with this one will likely fade. Be it because of a business turn down, or simply because he doesn't enjoy it the way he thought he would. He has taken risks, I don't know and will not comment on how hard or not he works.... and that is the key to his success... The fact that he takes risks.... Wander around the state some, you will find risks he took that failed... I have found more then one MB tractor location that did not succeed. When business and the economy is good, his life is good... when it is not, you see him make changes.... He is a risk taker, that isn't afraid to loose what he has gained.
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This is not an "Ocean" boat, it's really a near shore boat. Yes, it's longer than what you commonly see on Winni, but compare it to something like a Marlow 53 in terms of displacement, fuel capacity, range, and general sea handling capabilities and you'll see quite a difference. Not sure what you were implying MB is lacking with that comment, but I'm not so sure you have much "-----" to spare either.
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Drove beside and behind her this weekend
It is a stunning vessel
It doesn’t look as long as the Camp Lawrence boat although it is slightly bigger The wake looks huge behind the boat (first 75’ ft or so) but flattens out quickly. The wake that travels to shore I would describe as a rolling swell. The harsh waves of the camp boat or the mail boat - or the wake setter we went by afterwards, would be more damaging. It looked like any other boat enjoying the weekend. |
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This is more a question about the Meredith town docks but since this thread's subject was what got me to notice I figured I'd post here.
Yesterday afternoon I was going through Meredith and saw Summah Hummah tied up to the town docks. I went by this morning around 6 AM and saw it still in the same spot. Is there some portion of those docks that is private? I've never really taken notice of the boats there but this one is kind of tough to miss. |
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The whole dock is public there is no private area and I can confirm it was there overnight. Only legitimate reason for the stay would be maybe the vessel was having issues.
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I went by at 3:45 this afternoon, and it was still there. There were 2 Meredith cops on the dock next to the boat, one looked like he might have been writing a ticket of some sort. Went by again at 6:00, and it was gone.
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Anyone know how much a three hour dock violation is? I see boats tied up at Shep Browns public dock long term occasionally and I have to guess the fines are less than renting a slip.
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He was at a 3 day event at Church landing. Not sure how he got permission to park long term but, $$$ can get you lots of things!
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I understand money talks but the season is so short and weekends so busy especially at all the town docks it just isn’t right for this boat to take up 2-3 spots for 3 days. I pulled up there about 1:00 Saturday and there were obviously no spots to be had and 5 boats in front of me and more coming in behind. Sent from my iPhone using Winnipesaukee Forum mobile app |
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Does anybody here know for a fact that he did not have permission or maybe even a paid for a permit to stay there? Does anybody here know he didn't have motor or other troubles that caused his extended stay?? (You can't exactly tow a boat that size safely.) or is this all hearsay and conjecture to chastise a man who has a little money and a nice boat??....
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Let me just say this Dave...If that was my boat and it was broken down, I certainly would not want anyone attempting to tow me and somehow try and dock me through a maze of boats at my home marina. It would be much simpler and safer to ask the town for permission or accept the daily tickets and have a qualified mechanic come to the vessel for repairs.
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I have two simple requests when people use public spaces. First, don't park in such a way that you make dock spaces inaccessible to others. The number of times I have pulled into Sheps, Center Harbor, or the Weirs to find boats parked at the far end of the docks in such a way as to block access to inner spaces... If you don't have the skill to dock in tight spaces, fine - "walk" your boat in or out as needed. Takes a little more time, but we all benefit. This is especially irritating when people are just hanging out on their boat - with two or three spaces in front of them! Second, follow the three hour rule. Just because you get to a dock first thing in the morning doesn't mean you can stay all day. Likewise putting on the mooring cover and staying all night... I don't expect any changes but will keep hoping! |
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The ONLY solution is to have the state issue "boat" permits on a lottery basis exactly the same way they do will moose permits. Issue "X" amount of permits per body of water and those are the ONLY boats allowed on those waters of NH.
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The Weirs docks...
I was watching boats docking at The Weirs last weekend and am curious...Hardly anyone docks on the inside, always on the outside at the docks end so as to not get "locked in". If you do dock on the inside and get locked-in, what is the proper etiquette if you want to leave? Do you just sit and wait for the outside boat owner to return? Do you move someone else's boat? Or do you do what I do and just stay away? Touching someone else's boat is not something I would ever do.
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Rule #1 -- NEVER touch someone else's boat, unless you are assisting them.
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You can't (legally) sleep on it at the town docks, and it's not like Church Landing is a long commute from GI. So, he was either going home at night, or staying at the hotel, I would presume.
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An even better solution would be for Meredith to allow transient dockage described above AND to install transient moorings at a substantially reduced rate (compared to dockage rates) and offer a free dinghy dock and/or a fee launch service, like just about the whole rest of the world does... This whole concept of every boat having to go back to its home slip every night is really stupid. All those public docks on the lake are utterly wasted for roughly 1/4 to 1/3 of each day of the boating season and the towns and marinas are losing out on a ton of revenue. |
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If everyone was only allowed to own a 14' vee hull, open aluminum boat with a 15-hp Evinrude outboard, both boat and motor made before 1980 ....... finding a parking spot at a local town dock would NOT be a problem!
I will be running for NH governor with this boat docking message! ..... thankyou very much ..... and vote for my plan!
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Meredith and Wolfeboro could be raking in big bucks all the time. Alton, Center Harbor and Weirs Beach could fill their docks with overnight boaters that pay a reasonable transient fee and spend a lot of money at local businesses. Imagine the bar bills people would rack up if they did not have to pilot their boat back to their dock in the dark. Additionally, imagine the breakfast joint revenues the next day... I think we can all agree that areas that have a few thriving restaurants typically also have thriving retail and hospitality establishments. People want to go where other people go. One other thing that could really help with crowded town docks is to allow rafting where there's space for it. That's pretty normal outside NH too... It's crazy that with all the space between docks in Meredith that they don't allow rafting there; it's ideal for it. A Dockmaster could even offer discounts to incentivize people to allow rafting to their boat. |
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I really like the idea of having a dock master at town docks to control and monitor docking. This wouldn't cost the much and would really benefit both boater and town and in my opinion pay for itself...
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