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Old 10-07-2021, 10:47 AM   #1
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He was excited to live near a small airport. I understand and love small aircraft. But a lot of people don’t realize they are exempt of EPA requirements of lead free fuel. I was training for my pilots license about 15 years ago and when learned that they still used leaded fuel I couldn’t live with myself that I was poisoning the homes below for my pleasure and dropped out. I was flying out of a airport much more densely populated area. I was really bummed because it was an absolute blast.

It is low lead fuel (great improvement over the past) but it still has serious impact near the airports. Large Commercial planes do not use leaded fuel.
I honestly appreciate your approach and environmental awareness. I share it and am involved in renewable fuel through work. But the small plane unleaded fuel use is a drop in the bucket at most, and poses zero risk to the houses they are flying over. Yes, hopefully aviation will move to unleaded fuel, I assume Lycoming and other engine manufacturers have resisted, but it would not ever keep me from pursuing that if it was something I wanted to do.

Yes, jet fuel doesn't have lead (basically kerosene). But the pollution from commercial aviation is a real environmental issue, and a hard one to make a dent in, by comparison the small amount of leaded gas that is used is nowhere near the impact. JMO, I haven't done any research on this.
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Old 10-07-2021, 12:38 PM   #2
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There are several videos on youtube showing electric aircraft in flight. Coming to a small airfield near you.
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Old 10-07-2021, 01:11 PM   #3
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I honestly appreciate your approach and environmental awareness. I share it and am involved in renewable fuel through work. But the small plane unleaded fuel use is a drop in the bucket at most, and poses zero risk to the houses they are flying over. Yes, hopefully aviation will move to unleaded fuel, I assume Lycoming and other engine manufacturers have resisted, but it would not ever keep me from pursuing that if it was something I wanted to do.

Yes, jet fuel doesn't have lead (basically kerosene). But the pollution from commercial aviation is a real environmental issue, and a hard one to make a dent in, by comparison the small amount of leaded gas that is used is nowhere near the impact. JMO, I haven't done any research on this.
Approx 3 million children live within 0.5 miles of airports in the USA. Which have been shown that the children have elevated levels of lead in their blood. If you think that's a "drop in the bucket" then that's your choice. Obviously Commercial Jets have other forms of pollution that we should also work towards improving.

https://www.smgov.net/uploadedFiles/...ead%20Fuel.pdf

https://healthdocbox.com/Add/1175417...-hastings.html
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Thanks for providing the links to more info. I don't have time to go through them right now, will try to do so in the next few days. I'm always willing to learn.
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Old 10-07-2021, 07:21 PM   #5
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Approx 3 million children live within 0.5 miles of airports in the USA. Which have been shown that the children have elevated levels of lead in their blood. If you think that's a "drop in the bucket" then that's your choice. Obviously Commercial Jets have other forms of pollution that we should also work towards improving.

https://www.smgov.net/uploadedFiles/...ead%20Fuel.pdf

https://healthdocbox.com/Add/1175417...-hastings.html
I think that study makes some logistical stretches and I wonder why a study of this magnitude didn't include air sampling in these areas as part of it's data set. The study also mentions the increased lead levels in poorer neighborhoods where much older housing is used versus neighborhoods where newer housing is available and levels are lower.

But, as I said before, a substitute fuel for leaded high octane aviation gas has just been approved by the FAA and hopefully will be widely available quickly.

The sooner 100ll goes away the better everyone will like it.
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I think that study makes some logistical stretches and I wonder why a study of this magnitude didn't include air sampling in these areas as part of it's data set. The study also mentions the increased lead levels in poorer neighborhoods where much older housing is used versus neighborhoods where newer housing is available and levels are lower.

But, as I said before, a substitute fuel for leaded high octane aviation gas has just been approved by the FAA and hopefully will be widely available quickly.

The sooner 100ll goes away the better everyone will like it.
Agreed. That paper is referenced by many other articles.

I love planes. I've flown RC planes (electric powered and gliders) for a while. Then I had the whole family take hang gliding lessons one summer. My daughter had a hard landing and dropped out. And my wife just couldn't take the "work" involved with learning. I made it to "Hang I" but never went further. That was an absolute blast until I came to my senses. Then I started taking the lessons, that was a lot of fun, I loved it. Latest craze is a drone, but that's not really flying, is it
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