Best Breakfast 2019 and.....Go

[FlyingScot]

Originally Posted by thinkxingu

All these thumbs-up for VK, but I've been three or four times and have been disappointed each one. Center Harbor Cafe, George's, and Sunshine and Pa's (for the immediate area) have always been far better experiences.

Sent from my SM-G950U using Winnipesaukee Forum mobile app

You should go again

Another vote for VK, with specific thumbs up for the pancakes and the homemade bread. (Make sure to spring for the 100% maple syrup on the cakes)

[thinkxingu]

Originally Posted by FlyingScot

You should go again

Another vote for VK, with specific thumbs up for the pancakes and the homemade bread. (Make sure to spring for the 100% maple syrup on the cakes)

Alright, maybe I will. If so, I'll report back!

Sent from my SM-G950U using Winnipesaukee Forum mobile app

[Descant]

Ames Farm by boat. Union Diner and Cravings by car. Sunday Brunch at Church Landing

[mcdude]

If you've got an errand to run in Rochester be sure to stop in at the Farmer's Kitchen for breakfast or lunch in Farmington right on Rt. 11. All those people waiting in line can't be wrong!


https://farmerskitchen-nh.com/

[mcdude]

Of course, the VERY BEST breakfast would be on the 3rd Sunday of each month at the Mason's Hall in Alton where you might be served in person by Upthesaukee!!

On Sunday, August 18th, the Masons of Winnipisaukee Lodge in Alton will be hosting their monthly Breakfast Buffet, open to the public, at the Lodge on Rte 28, a quarter mile south of the Alton Circle. With fresh fruit, biscuits and gravy, scrambled eggs, omelets, bacon and sausage, home fries, beans, pancakes, french toast, coffee and juice being served, it is a perfect time for family and friends to sit down and enjoy an all you can eat breakfast buffet. So join them for breakfast between 7:30 and 11:00. They hope to see you there, always on the 3rd Sunday of the month. For more information, contact Dave Collier at 603-875-0816. Cost is $10

[JADAQ]

Sunshine and Pas has always been good.

Hit up Center Harbor diner last week which was also good but not a fan at all of ANY restaurant that doesn’t take plastic! I usually never carry cash, so my visits there will be few and far between. I just don’t understand why restaurants in this century don’t take plastic?

Stopped at the Village kitchen everyone raves about last year only to find a sign on the door “cash only” did an immediate about face and split while I hear voice saying “we have an ATM”
Sure! I said and let me just add another $8.00 to my bill for your ATM fee and my banks cut.....no thanks!

[TheTimeTraveler]

Originally Posted by JADAQ

Sunshine and Pas has always been good.

Hit up Center Harbor diner last week which was also good but not a fan at all of ANY restaurant that doesn’t take plastic! I usually never carry cash, so my visits there will be few and far between. I just don’t understand why restaurants in this century don’t take plastic?

Stopped at the Village kitchen everyone raves about last year only to find a sign on the door “cash only” did an immediate about face and split while I hear voice saying “we have an ATM”
Sure! I said and let me just add another $8.00 to my bill for your ATM fee and my banks cut.....no thanks!

I agree with the frustration of "CASH ONLY". However, if the food is great you'll always be sure to have the green stuff with pictures of dead men.

I learned this is the way of business at Pop's Clam Shell in Alton.

To be honest, even though restaurant operators have to pay 3% to the banking industry, credit cards are far better to use to avoid cash shortages, cash mistakes, daily counts and daily deposits. Far too many issues in dealing with cash.

I'm confident we could start a thread on the restaurants that have yet to accept credit cards.

I also have known of some unattended gas stations in the past that leave their pumps on all night but you can't use their pumps unless you have a credit card. So credit cards do have some use somewhere!

[Sue Doe-Nym]

VK and George’s...both great. Boohoo about “cash only” at VK....not a big deal! Great eggs Benedict. ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️

[Outdoorsman]

Originally Posted by Sue Doe-Nym

VK and George’s...both great. Boohoo about “cash only” at VK....not a big deal! Great eggs Benedict.

Boohoo about "cash only"?

Not so much!

Been to VK (and other restaurants with that policy) just one time, "cash only" keeps us away. My summer group of 4-10 each weekend will alternate who pays the tab. None of us are hitting an ATM just for that restaurant. And MOST DEFINITELY will not pay ATM fees to the owner to eat at his establishment.

Sorry, but it's 2019 out there.

[Shreddy]

Originally Posted by Outdoorsman

Boohoo about "cash only"?

Not so much!

Been to VK (and other restaurants with that policy) just one time, "cash only" keeps us away. My summer group of 4-10 each weekend will alternate who pays the tab. None of us are hitting an ATM just for that restaurant. And MOST DEFINITELY will not pay ATM fees to the owner to eat at his establishment.

Sorry, but it's 2019 out there.

The foregone benefit of the farmer's breakfast is your loss, not theirs. They have no issue putting people in the seats. I've exchanged messages with SAMIAM several times as it would be nice to pay via Venmo, Cashapp, etc. but the reality is they don't need to and if it means their prices stay reasonable (since no CC fees), I don't mind having some cash on me to cover a nominal bill (even with 4-10 people). The ATM there is a convenience, and if you're still paying ATM fees then you need to realize it's "2019 out there" and get a better checking account.

[VitaBene]

Originally Posted by Shreddy

The foregone benefit of the farmer's breakfast is your loss, not theirs. They have no issue putting people in the seats. I've exchanged messages with SAMIAM several times as it would be nice to pay via Venmo, Cashapp, etc. but the reality is they don't need to and if it means their prices stay reasonable (since no CC fees), I don't mind having some cash on me to cover a nominal bill (even with 4-10 people). The ATM there is a convenience, and if you're still paying ATM fees then you need to realize it's "2019 out there" and get a better checking account.

Passed the VK 2X this rainy Wed AM- at 0900 the lot was full, at 1040 the lot was 75% full! Oh, tonight is Turkey Dinner night at the VK- it is fantastic!

[tis]

Our next door neighbors never missed a Wednesday night at the VK for the turkey dinner.

[Sue Doe-Nym]

Just walked in the door from our fine dining at the VK...piping hot chicken croquettes, stuffing, gravy, cranberry sauce, squash. Very pleasant, not too crowded, and we never mind needing cash....very small price to pay . We are regulars and are never disappointed. ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️

[Heading4thelake]

My extended family goes every weekend to Morriseys Front Porch in Wolfeboro for breakfast as it's the best as they all say ! They are only open for breakfast Fri-Sun. due to help restraints . Yet to hear ! complaint from 3 year old to senior citizens !!

And no I don't know the owners or Chef Tony. Just like the place !

[FlyingScot]

Not a full breakfast, but a special shout out to Cup and Crumb in Moultonborough. Excellent coffee, espresso drinks, and fresh baked goods in an old barn setting. Favorite dish--their "Pop Tart" (but you'd better get there early for that one).

[Newbiesaukee]

Although a faithful VK fan, we ventured to the south and had an excellent breakfast at Margaret’s Kitchen in Sanbornton off of Rte 3. Nice atmosphere and Angela is an excellent waitress.

[thinkxingu]

Originally Posted by Newbiesaukee

Although a faithful VK fan, we ventured to the south and had an excellent breakfast at Margaret’s Kitchen in Sanbornton off of Rte 3. Nice atmosphere and Angela is an excellent waitress.

'Swhat I was talking about! Get the chicken and waffles?!

Sent from my SM-G950U using Winnipesaukee Forum mobile app

[thinkxingu]

Originally Posted by JADAQ

Sunshine and Pas has always been good.

Hit up Center Harbor diner last week which was also good but not a fan at all of ANY restaurant that doesn’t take plastic! I usually never carry cash, so my visits there will be few and far between. I just don’t understand why restaurants in this century don’t take plastic?

Stopped at the Village kitchen everyone raves about last year only to find a sign on the door “cash only” did an immediate about face and split while I hear voice saying “we have an ATM”
Sure! I said and let me just add another $8.00 to my bill for your ATM fee and my banks cut.....no thanks!

I agree about cards, BUT as long as the place has an ATM or takes checks (I always keep a check in my wallet), it's no big deal. Besides, who pays ATM charges these days? My credit union refunds them each month.

Sent from my SM-G950U using Winnipesaukee Forum mobile app

[joey2665]

Originally Posted by JADAQ

Sunshine and Pas has always been good.

Hit up Center Harbor diner last week which was also good but not a fan at all of ANY restaurant that doesn’t take plastic! I usually never carry cash, so my visits there will be few and far between. I just don’t understand why restaurants in this century don’t take plastic?

Stopped at the Village kitchen everyone raves about last year only to find a sign on the door “cash only” did an immediate about face and split while I hear voice saying “we have an ATM”
Sure! I said and let me just add another $8.00 to my bill for your ATM fee and my banks cut.....no thanks!

Actually Amex is 3% but Visa MasterCard and Discover usually only 1.2 to 1.5%. If they raised their price by about 25 cents a meal it would cover the fees and make customers happy. But then again there is the “under the table” issue.


Sent from my iPhone using Winnipesaukee Forum mobile app

[rick35]

Citizens charges $3 for an atm advance plus whatever the fee on the machine is. So it usually costs $6 total. My CU doesn’t charge a fee as long as the machine is owned by another CU. Cash or check is old school and just about all restaurants just pass on the fee through their prices and that’s what people have come to expect. Pops and VC can do it because they have a large following but a mediocre place would probably fail. And I would think the cost of theft would far exceed the bank fees.

[JanN]

Sundays in July and August, Moulton Farm has a delicious farm-to-table brunch! I know that's a very limited time, but had to mention it because it is so good!

[sky's]

center harbor diner the best by far

[FlyingScot]

Originally Posted by joey2665

Actually Amex is 3% but Visa MasterCard and Discover usually only 1.2 to 1.5%. If they raised their price by about 25 cents a meal it would cover the fees and make customers happy. But then again there is the “under the table” issue.


Sent from my iPhone using Winnipesaukee Forum mobile app

Good point. Even better than that--market research has shown that people are less price sensitive when using plastic, so presumably many are getting more than 25 cents extra and customers are still more satisfied

[baygo]

Originally Posted by joey2665

Actually Amex is 3% but Visa MasterCard and Discover usually only 1.2 to 1.5%. If they raised their price by about 25 cents a meal it would cover the fees and make customers happy. But then again there is the “under the table” issue.


Sent from my iPhone using Winnipesaukee Forum mobile app

Credit card fees vary from, Industry to industry and business to business, depending on who the processor is. The restaurant industry happens to have the highest processing fees. There is an additional factor that actually increases the cost to the restaurant. Let’s say a diner enjoys a $100 dinner, plus 9% tax equals $109 plus 20% tip is $21.80 tip. Total $130.80 3% is $4.00 or 4% of the original $100. A small restaurant that runs $500,000 in credit cards yearly can easily pay $15,000 a year in credit card fees. The owner of a restaurant that does that level of volume is looking at $15,000 as 20 to 30% of his or her take at the end of the year.

It’s not uncommon for loyal customers to a restaurant to bring cash to help protect the longevity of there favorite restaurant.

“Under the table” is really more a thing of the past in the restaurant business. Today, state and federal revenue collectors have sophisticated software that compares restaurant consumption against revenue reported. Anyone attempting to under report sales will get caught.

[joey2665]

Originally Posted by baygo

Credit card fees vary from, Industry to industry and business to business, depending on who the processor is. The restaurant industry happens to have the highest processing fees. There is an additional factor that actually increases the cost to the restaurant. Let’s say a diner enjoys a $100 dinner, plus 9% tax equals $109 plus 20% tip is $21.80 tip. Total $130.80 3% is $4.00 or 4% of the original $100. A small restaurant that runs $500,000 in credit cards yearly can easily pay $15,000 a year in credit card fees. The owner of a restaurant that does that level of volume is looking at $15,000 as 20 to 30% of his or her take at the end of the year.

It’s not uncommon for loyal customers to a restaurant to bring cash to help protect the longevity of there favorite restaurant.

“Under the table” is really more a thing of the past in the restaurant business. Today, state and federal revenue collectors have sophisticated software that compares restaurant consumption against revenue reported. Anyone attempting to under report sales will get caught.

But my point was to raise your prices by the minimal 1.5% to offset the processing fees also increase in business could also help offset the costs. The other costs you always have to deal with.

As a CPA I certainly understand the audit risks but in my experience many smaller restaurants always tried to guild the Lilly and many know how to do it and not raise red flags.


Sent from my iPhone using Winnipesaukee Forum mobile app

[BroadHopper]

Originally Posted by joey2665

But my point was to raise your prices by the minimal 1.5% to offset the processing fees also increase in business could also help offset the costs. The other costs you always have to deal with.

As a CPA I certainly understand the audit risks but in my experience many smaller restaurants always tried to guild the Lilly and many know how to do it and not raise red flags.
Sent from my iPhone using Winnipesaukee Forum mobile app

As a financial analyst, I agree with you here. I spent a lot of research on how credit cards work and its a huge profit industry! Consumers can switch cards to help the vendors and vendors can switch bank card systems for savings. It's a game CC folks love to play! They even make money on debit cards! Convenience cost money!

There are consumer banks that actually pays your CC fees. Mostly CUs. I opt for a CU that pays for all of my CC fees including fees occurred outside of the CU network! It pays to shop around!

[Biggd]

Originally Posted by joey2665

Actually Amex is 3% but Visa MasterCard and Discover usually only 1.2 to 1.5%. If they raised their price by about 25 cents a meal it would cover the fees and make customers happy. But then again there is the “under the table” issue.


Sent from my iPhone using Winnipesaukee Forum mobile app

Many places won't take Amex for that reason. I've threatened to cancel Amex every time I get my monthly CC fee statement at my shop.
I have a Costco C-card that I use strictly for business and I was so glad when they switched from Amex to Visa.

[SAMIAM]

Originally Posted by JADAQ

Sunshine and Pas has always been good.

Hit up Center Harbor diner last week which was also good but not a fan at all of ANY restaurant that doesn’t take plastic! I usually never carry cash, so my visits there will be few and far between. I just don’t understand why restaurants in this century don’t take plastic?

Stopped at the Village kitchen everyone raves about last year only to find a sign on the door “cash only” did an immediate about face and split while I hear voice saying “we have an ATM”
Sure! I said and let me just add another $8.00 to my bill for your ATM fee and my banks cut.....no thanks!

We hear you and you're not the only one that prefers plastic, but FYI we don't take commissions on the ATM so the charge is only $3 not $8 and
most banks will reimburse for ATM fees.
Not paying fees to CC companies allows us to keep our prices within reason. Also, our waitstaff much prefers the cash system for speed (and tips are better).
Totally understand that many people do not like to use cash and the day may come when we have to make the change but for now it's working well.

[fogpixie]

Originally Posted by mcdude

If you've got an errand to run in Rochester be sure to stop in at the Farmer's Kitchen for breakfast or lunch in Farmington right on Rt. 11. All those people waiting in line can't be wrong!


https://farmerskitchen-nh.com/

Agreed!

Sent from my SM-N950U using Winnipesaukee Forum mobile app