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06-09-2019, 05:32 PM | #1 |
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I heard from Randy Parker that Pier 19 has sold. Purchased by a conglomerate.
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So you mean Randy Parker?
Hi KPW, did you mean Randy Parker of Maxfield Real Estate? Or is there a Randy Walker?
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Does anyone know if the underground fuel tank (for boat gas) is still in place or has that been removed since Pier 19 closed?
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I never saw that tank taken out.
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The tank is still there.
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Tank is still there. In fact, it was replaced shortly before the store closed.
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Thanks for the info. Any details on what type of conglomerate, or what the plans for the store are?
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However there IS a Randy Walker.
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I wish Parker Walker would make up his mind. Is he parking or walking?
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Dollar General coming soon?
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Yes - Dollar General
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The power transformers for the store are on a pole at the corner of my driveway. This morning, there was a Co-op bucket truck there, closing the pole circuit breakers to power up the store. Something happening - don't know details yet and haven't seen anyone inside. Just have to look at some other time of day.
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I'd love to see them put some updates into the ice cream side of things--we loved going there by boat, as it was the closest place to us.
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I wonder if the dollar store will be open in time for summer? Very convenient for boating and Camp Belknap. |
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Please, please, please tell me the dollar store thing is a joke.
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About two years ago, Dollar General built a new store in Campton next to the Northway Bank on a very steep, river bank, sloping lot that needed a lot of site work to make it happen on such a sloping lot ..... and it happened.
Ashland and Campton both have relatively new Dollar Generals which do not seem to do too much business? Like, why in the whole wide world would anyone want to go to a Dollar General when you can go to a Walmart? The Plymouth Walmart has some very nice large oranges, as in oranges, grapefruit, lemons for just 50-cents/orange ...... a steal of a deal .... high quality oranges! Tamworth, Center Ossipee, Moultonborough, and Alton all have Dollar Generals ..... isn't Pier 19 considered to be in Melvin Village in Tuftonboro .... and probably it would be a 365-day, year 'round store ..... Dollar General wouldn't have a seasonal type of a store ....it would have to be open all-the-time ...... a 7-day, 52-week type of a store .... a real business. See you at the Melvin Village, Dollar General! Hopefully, it will get painted Melvin Village white ...... so's it will blend, good. https://rocherealty.com/tuftonboro-n...-realty-group/ ...... $899,000 .... excellent pictures! ..... 1408-days on the market is a lot of days! Will it have quality tuna fish in cans for $1.39 and excellent, hot, strong coffee for like 99-cents ..... another reason to visit Melvin Village! Will it rent out stand up paddle boards?
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If it does turn out to be a Dollar Store then my guess is that boat gas will be a thing of the past.
I don't believe any of their locations sell gasoline for cars or boats, and I wouldn't think they would start that precedent now. There are many stipulations for vending and storing gasoline and I just don't think their staffing can deal with it. But who knows, I could be all wrong (as well as speculation on this Forum that it will in fact become a Dollar Store). . |
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Is boating gas profitable?
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Rumor I heard was there a potential buyer who wanted to convert the store into a restaurant. Not sure if that is who bought it though
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The store had very limited parking,with most spaces owned by the Condo Assoc. Very hard for any business to make a go of it
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With over 15,000 stores and $25-billion annual revenue ..... maybe Dollar General just thought this could be a happening, fun location and said let's do it up real nice as a way to upgrade their public image .... in such a beautiful Lake Winnipesaukee location.
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The footprint there is rather limited so I really don't know if there is enough space for a new septic system (and leach field) or not. I also have no idea in what kind of condition the existing septic system is in (which I believe was put in when Hunters ran the store). Anyway, that's my thought and I'm confident others will comment..... |
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What Other Town Can Claim "Randy"?
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The septic system is under the parking lot out back which is owned by the association. In fact, all of the parking area is owned by the association. The well for the building is also on land owned by the association. In addition, I believe the association documents grant the association access to a bathroom in the building.
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I agree it is hard to justify the 1 mil asking price. You are getting the building, the land it sits on, the parking spots directly in front of it. Probably why it has been on the market for over 2 years.
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Wrong! The store “controls” something like 30 spaces in the front but the lot is the associations.
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So much speculation going on here.... give it time and see what starts to happens....
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Supposedly there is a deal in place but buyer doesn’t want to close until the fall. Got this from association board member.
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surprised no one has ever used that parking lot for a farmers market, traveling BBQ or some other kind of food truck or coffee cart. Seems like there is plenty of traffic for a hit and run business during the season.
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I heard the first deal fell through. There was a second looker last week. Rumors only.
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Property is still listed for sale online. Presumably, the listing would come down immediately on an offer and acceptance. So I'm going out on a limb to say talk of a sale is just talk
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They just installed a brand new fuel tank there about two years ago in September, so I doubt they would remove it.
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The last I heard this weekend was that someone wanted to take down Pier 19 store and build condos. Think they wanted a number of boat docking spots too. Lots of town approvals and dealing with the dock association before that would be approved.
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Someone said there was a town planning board meeting last week to address Pier 19 plans. Anyone hear anything?
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Should have done this before I posted.
See the minutes for the 7/11/19 Planning board meeting in the following: https://www.tuftonboro.org/sites/tuf...es/7.11.19.pdf In summary it appears somebody is interested in bringing back the store. All pending his due diligence. Sent from my iPhone using Winnipesaukee Forum mobile app |
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Another wanted to convert the store building into condos. Nope not happening. And there is still another yet to be determined Bottom line is the store was built on a great deal of wetlands around the property. The store has one bathroom. The septic was probably designed for only one bathroom or little more. To expand the septic to accommodate anything more would require a major investment and Tuftonboro, State approvals. It probably won't even pass with Tuftonboro regulations. The whole area around the store is wetlands. From what I was told by the authorities the water table is just too high to allow any kind of septic expansion. But what do I know... Hoping for some innovative and successful solution. |
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Thanks for all the details. I have always figured one of the issues with getting the property sold is because of potential use issues. The septic, becomes a big hurdle, to really be able to do anything. A restaurant would need a larger capacity system with out question, and that may have also been a contributing factor in going from a full grocery store at one point, to scaling down to that of a convenience store. This is why I have never understood the asking price. The best thing it has going for it, is the Gas the pump. What I can say is the longer it sits vacant, the less and less chance we will have of every seeing it open back up, with the same use model was was last there.... I miss my place to go get some ice-cream..............
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My inside info suggests it will become a valet boat service facility with a small boat service department.
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I would by that it could become a boat service facility and have the gas dock.... But I don't see the Valet service angle......
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Cant see it for trailered boats. Not enough land to operate that with boat trailers etc.
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Random thought.............would the developer trying to build the 12 houses on Farm Island be trying to buy it to wrap into the project so those folks have a mainland presence.................
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I am wondering if the new operator will try installing a retail gas pump so that cars will be able to fill up there as well as boats.....
After all, Wolfeboro is now down to three gas stations (which used to have eight) and all the gas stations in Tuftonboro no longer exist (Melvin Village and Center Tuftonboro all closed). Right now the closest gas is either in Wolfeboro or Moultonboro, so I think a gas pump might do well. After all, the operator is paying the insurance for the existing underground tank. Interesting speculation continues as to what will really happen with Pier 19. |
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I don't see a valet service being viable there, does anyone think it a good idea to have constant traffic of boats on a fork lift crossing 109 with what a 45 MPH speed limit and let's face it visibility on the south bound side is terrible. I don't think the neighbors would appreciate that either and likely would fight something like that. |
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I don’t think they even have the water depth there for a fork lift nor do they have room for that. But I agree that right type of store with car gas and boat gas has a chance. Food is required of course and tone it down to simple burger, dogs chicken sandwich in the winter and sell bait also. Sleds and fisherman will use it for sure. Very active spot in winter.
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Approximately 10 years ago Roger the then store manager and I had a conversation why not put in car gas pumps for the store to help increase revenue. He told me at that time that they had researched the idea and decided not to do it for the following reasons. First it would be very difficult if not at all possible to get permits to add fuel tank around the store. Even if they could get approvals the cost would not justify doing it. And there was just not enough room in the the parking area. So it was not pursued any further.
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I would imagine that is the main problem with most anything trying to buy that site. Just not enough room there to do much. IMO very tough for anyone to make something profitable there that would create a decent revenue stream on an annual basis.
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Have to remember the Association “owned” the parking lot. Building owner would have to get Association members to agree to any parking area modifications.
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has there been any more updates on the Pier 19 business or property?
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any word on the status of the store?
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I do not see that site being economically viable any time in the near term. It is too large for a convenience store and too small for a grocery. I wish it were different because it is an easy boat ride for me.
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It looks like there are “new” for sale signs around the store. Did the deal with the trucking co. fall thru?
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