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05-21-2019, 02:47 PM | #1 |
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NH Commercial Boating License?
Has anyone taken the NH commercial boating license test?
The entire study guide is 5 pages of things that mostly apply to all boats (buoys, flame arresters, lighting etc). https://www.nh.gov/safety/divisions/...Supplement.pdf There are a few unique requirements (type 1 PFDs, engine fire suppression, manual fuel shutoff and of course a bell for boats over 26 feet) Is it mostly a more in depth standard recreational boater test? No on water test unless you want a license valid for over 34 feet. |
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I took the course and have the Commercial License. It is good for 5 years. The test is just a little more in depth than the standard test.
The law is that anyone operating a boat for commercial purposes or pay needs that license. That means that if you are delivering boats for a dealer or you are a realtor, in your own boat, showing property to prospective buyers, you need the license. I would assume that many people the Marine Patrol would say should have the license, do not have it. |
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The commercial test is similar to the recreational boating certificate test only 85 instead of 60 questions. I highly recommend you take the classroom or online Boating Education course first if you haven't already.
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A few years ago a business focused on island jobs changed hands. In business for many years, the boats and drivers had never been "commercial" The new owner was shut down for a couple of weeks, unexpectedly, while he re-registered the boats and got commercial licenses for employees. As far as I know, if these had been pick-up trucks instead of boats, there would have been no such problem. A Realtor can drive me in his car, why not his boat? |
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If you take any compensation it's commercial use
If an operator of a boat accepts any kind of "consideration" for taking anyone anywhere on a boat, it's commercial use and requires a commercial license and the boat needs to be commercially registered. This could be $, fuel, a six pack of beer, whatever.
Just make sure that beer isn't consumed until after you made it to your destination. |
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FWIW, the test was quite easy. Basic boating questions with 5-6 about the rules that pertain to commercial boat rules. A couple badly worded questions to which I believe the answer was pretty ambiguous.
2 power boats are approaching. Does the one to starboard always have the right of way? I believe the answer was true, but I'm pretty sure it's not true if I'm the captain of NH 0001 MT |
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Hmmm, the guy wrote limited to not over 35 feet or 80 hp on mine. Looks like more Dept of safety vague wording. I assume that means I drive a boat over 35 feet if it doesn't have more than 80 hp, otherwise it's a pretty useless license.
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One example of someone operating a boat for "consideration" would be the employee of a boat dealer picking up or dropping off a customers boat. That would require a commercial license but the registration and registered owner of the boat would not come into play. The beer can be consumed at any time, including while underway. The boat operator may consume the beer while operating the boat. He just cannot consume enough so that he is impaired according to the law. |
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I'd like to see the RSA or rule reference. When I worked for a marina, several employees drove boats while "on duty". Salesmen for example doing demos, mechanics water testing. I recall one mechanic who took the boat out in the bay and drifted while he worked because the owner was hanging over his shoulder. That was a long time ago, so when did the law change? Let's be specific, not an opinion please.
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Marine Patrol Unit Commercial Boating Commercial Registration All commercial boats must be commercially registered and inspected by the State of New Hampshire in compliance with RSA 270-E: 22 Any boat used as a common carrier of passengers or property; operating on a regular schedule. Any vessel propelled by electric or mechanical power carrying passengers for hire. Any boat or outboard motor used by the proprietor of any school or camp in which minors attend. Any boat used in conjunction with any form of enterprise where money or other compensation is received, whether actual or implied, for employment of the vessel. Any description of watercraft utilized by an employee of any enterprise in the performance of the employee’s duties. |
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I would be willing to bet most of the realtors don't know this.
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A Commercial Boat License is required because of the purpose of that operation not the size of the vessel. As someone said above, there is really no parallel from boats to motor vehicles. |
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I see some possible inherent conflicts here. The quoted passage refers (your bold) to employees. A realtor may or may not be an employee. I would suggest that there is no implied compensation if there is no sale. Just showing a property open to question. Let's say I'm a Realtor and I decide to register my boat commercially, and get my commercial certification. Now, under 270-E:22 it appears no other family member can use the commercial boat (my visiting sister and brother-in-law) without getting a NH commercial license, even if they have a NASBLA certificate from NH or another state. Trying to make boats all commercial; or all recreational, doesn't fit a lot of circumstances that commonly arise. Perhaps the law needs to be adjusted? |
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I agree that the law can be interpreted in different ways. When I took the course I said to the instructor from the Marine Patrol: "You realize that most people you think need the Commercial License don't have it". He said: "Yes, we know that". Hmmmmm...... |
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