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Old 04-05-2016, 08:19 AM   #1
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Knowing how easy it is to tip over in a Kayak I am shocked they would even be out there with the water this cold not to mention without a PFD.
25 years kayaking in all kinds of water temps and weather, lake and ocean and I have never once, I say again I have never once tipped over a kayak or a canoe. I stand up on my kayak and take casts bass fishing with a 7' bait caster. On some of these kayaks build within the last decade how bad is your sense of balance to flip one of these? They're not like they were 20 years ago.

I will say from October to memorial day I will wear a life vest kayaking/ canoeing because that is how I was raised. Momma didn't raise no fool.
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Old 04-05-2016, 09:03 AM   #2
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On some of these kayaks build within the last decade how bad is your sense of balance to flip one of these?
My son's cousin wasn't in a kayak but I guess it was pretty easy for her! Maybe the wind had something to do with it. Just glad she is alright!
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I guess it was pretty easy for her!
We all know 17 year old boys/girls aren't the brightest bulbs on the shelf. Where were their parents? The day she fell in was what 26ºF-30ºF and 25 mph sustained winds with gusts up to 35mph?

A day where my phone was sending me messages of small craft advisories, nothing to blame but pure stupidity.
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Usually, if you have a problem on Winnipesaukee like a flipped or capsized boat or sail boat or kayak or canoe or paddle board or aqua bicycle or something, there's like five other boats on the scene to help......like....before the Marine Patrol even gets there.

April 1st is the opening day for Community Sailing on the Charles River in Boston, and they probably have someone watching the sails from up to 2-miles away through binoculars from their dock, and of course they have a rescue motor boat with a pump, all ready to get out there....and when someone flips a sailboat....you just stay with the boat and crawl up out of the cold water as much as possible.....and oh yeah.....u want to be wearing a big tight pfd that has a loud whistle and maybe a white paddle to wave around or something.

With no other boats out there, and the cold cold cold water...it should make me think twice about getting out in my sailboat......
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We all know 17 year old boys/girls aren't the brightest bulbs on the shelf. Where were their parents? The day she fell in was what 26ºF-30ºF and 25 mph sustained winds with gusts up to 35mph?

A day where my phone was sending me messages of small craft advisories, nothing to blame but pure stupidity.

First & Foremost .... Thankfully it was not a tragedy that we are discussing.... and I have tried to stay out of the back & forth blame game of this thread

With that said, thinking of Winnisquamer's question .... If I read the initial article correctly it said there were (2) two separate Kayakers .... nothing has been said of the second .... was that Dad/Mom or just another teenage friend?


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"Where were their parents? "

Really? Did your parents follow you all around when you were 17? Mine sure didn't nor would I have expected or wanted them to. I had a bicycle and traveled many miles away from home. Sure they wanted a general idea where I was headed (Marc's house, back by dinner time) but what exactly I was doing or if I was at his house or within a mile or so away at the shopping center or on his paper route or crossing the old falling down roadway bridge over a river they didn't know. The same was true for all my friends.

It's hard to imagine any young person that hasn't pulled a bonehead play or two, some of them do it on a regular basis. As parents you try to drill into their heads the REASONS not to do this stuff and that, in some cases, by the time you know you are in trouble it's too late to get yourself out (like falling into ice cold water). Hopefully some of it sticks. I'll bet this young woman never forgets this hard knock lesson.

My lesson came about when I tried to swim across a river. I could walk out from the beach side a third of the way across. I figured I could swim the middle third and then walk the last third. Only one problem, unknown to me the far side was a drop off. After trying to find bottom about ten times and almost exhausted, I barely made it to the far shore. I was gasping and resting and thinking about how to walk back when the lifeguard came up behind me in a boat and gave me a ride back. I remember it well. Every time I stopped and tried to find the bottom, I thought I was going to drown. I really wasn't even that reckless. But I learned that you really need ALL the information before you jump into a situation.

BTW, my parents were in the beach watching me. I knew how to swim, although I'm not a strong swimmer. They figured I was just going to swim out a bit and turn around. When I didn't, THEY told the lifeguard. It was my fault, not theirs. I survived and got a little smarter. I was grateful they didn't nag me about it. They knew I had learned my lesson.
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BTW, my parents were in the beach watching me. I knew how to swim, although I'm not a strong swimmer. They figured I was just going to swim out a bit and turn around. When I didn't, THEY told the lifeguard. It was my fault, not theirs. I survived and got a little smarter. I was grateful they didn't nag me about it. They knew I had learned my lesson.
Good thing your parents were there!
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Good thing your parents were there!
Well, I made it to the shore without anyone else's help, barely. And it wasn't my parents job to watch me every second at that age anyway. It was a learning experience.
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"Where were their parents? "

Really? Did your parents follow you all around when you were 17? Mine sure didn't nor would I have expected or wanted them to. I had a bicycle and traveled many miles away from home. Sure they wanted a general idea where I was headed (Marc's house, back by dinner time) but what exactly I was doing or if I was at his house or within a mile or so away at the shopping center or on his paper route or crossing the old falling down roadway bridge over a river they didn't know. The same was true for all my friends.

It's hard to imagine any young person that hasn't pulled a bonehead play or two, some of them do it on a regular basis. As parents you try to drill into their heads the REASONS not to do this stuff and that, in some cases, by the time you know you are in trouble it's too late to get yourself out (like falling into ice cold water). Hopefully some of it sticks. I'll bet this young woman never forgets this hard knock lesson.

My lesson came about when I tried to swim across a river. I could walk out from the beach side a third of the way across. I figured I could swim the middle third and then walk the last third. Only one problem, unknown to me the far side was a drop off. After trying to find bottom about ten times and almost exhausted, I barely made it to the far shore. I was gasping and resting and thinking about how to walk back when the lifeguard came up behind me in a boat and gave me a ride back. I remember it well. Every time I stopped and tried to find the bottom, I thought I was going to drown. I really wasn't even that reckless. But I learned that you really need ALL the information before you jump into a situation.

BTW, my parents were in the beach watching me. I knew how to swim, although I'm not a strong swimmer. They figured I was just going to swim out a bit and turn around. When I didn't, THEY told the lifeguard. It was my fault, not theirs. I survived and got a little smarter. I was grateful they didn't nag me about it. They knew I had learned my lesson.
I can't believe they let you hang around with Marc
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