2013 favorite restaurants northern part of the lake

[camp guy]

If phoenix is running the poll, then phoenix "owns the football" and can decide which Towns are in the zone. Personally, I like George's and Pinecone, but in the Towns listed I'll go with Garwoods in Wolfeboro.

Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to ALL Forum members and readers.

[hilltopper]

Originally Posted by camp guy

If phoenix is running the poll, then phoenix "owns the football" and can decide which Towns are in the zone. Personally, I like George's and Pinecone, but in the Towns listed I'll go with Garwoods in Wolfeboro.

Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to ALL Forum members and readers.

I agree he "owns the football" but how the heck do you do a poll about the "northern part of the lake" and:

1. Include Wolfeboro
2. Not include Meredith

At the moment my favorite food stop on the northen part of the lake is the Lakeside Deli and Grille in Meredith.

[BroadHopper]

Technically From Moultonboro to Wolfeboro is on the east side of the lake. Meredith and Center Harbor is on the North, Laconia to Alton is the west side, Alton being the South side of the lake.

I will take FLL advise, The 'Walmart side' of the lake should be from Alton to Meredith. The 'other side of the pond' should be from Moultonboro to Wolfeboro.

I would compose a 'Walmart' list and an 'other side' list.

I would include only watering holes advertised in the 'Boating Secrets' magazine.

Fair enough?

[upthesaukee]

Take part in the poll, or not.

If you disagree with the listing, and feel that strongly that other restaurants should be included, take the time to set up your own poll.

phoenix has taken the time to do his.

Participate, or chose not to.

[MAXUM]

Originally Posted by BroadHopper

Technically From Moultonboro to Wolfeboro is on the east side of the lake. Meredith and Center Harbor is on the North, Laconia to Alton is the west side, Alton being the South side of the lake.

I will take FLL advise, The 'Walmart side' of the lake should be from Alton to Meredith. The 'other side of the pond' should be from Moultonboro to Wolfeboro.

I would compose a 'Walmart' list and an 'other side' list.

I would include only watering holes advertised in the 'Boating Secrets' magazine.

Fair enough?

If you take FLL's advice you'll want list Walmart as a place to eat too. Can't beat the industrial sized plastic barrel of fake cheese balls and a two liter bottle of Walmart branded soda!

[fpartri497]

Originally Posted by MAXUM

If you take FLL's advice you'll want list Walmart as a place to eat too. Can't beat the industrial sized plastic barrel of fake cheese balls and a two liter bottle of Walmart branded soda!

and you probally can return the emptys for a refund

[Irish Choppers]

Why would you exclude the Lakeside Deli, Lago, Lakehouse Grille, Harts, Mames, The Camp, or the Waterfalls cafe? Meredith has the best dining in the region for all budgets and tastes.

[KPW]

Best restaurant on the boro side of the lake.

[Resident 2B]

I like these polls, regardless of the name or geographic location.

For me, it is not just the four places that are on top. They deserve to be where they are. What I also look at is where the restaurants were last year and where they are this year. Without getting into names, one place really stands out as having slipped rapidly to the bottom.

I have always believed the way the guests (customers) are treated goes a long, long way and for the restaurant that has slipped the most, it is starting to show. Those on the top of the poll treat their guests in a respectable manner. Glad to see this is being noticed by the masses.

R2B

[Merrymeeting]

Many of us (myself included) would draw a line through the long axis of the lake and talk about "south" and "north" in that context.

In that context, Meredith is south.

As others have pointed out, anyone can start a poll. If you have an issue with this one, start another.

The value is in the discussion and viewpoints, not necessarily who "wins" and "loses".

[Lakesrider]

It should have read.....From this list....If you put every place on the list it would be pages long......

VK...for me. Always good food.

[camp guy]

I have a question...what criteria do YOU use in determining your favorite restaurant?

Personally, my first impression with respect to cleanliness makes a big impact on me, and this includes walking up to the entrance door, the coat room area, and restrooms. Nothing, absolutely nothing, turns me off more quickly than having to navigate through a group of smokers standing outside a restaurant. This is a real deal breaker for me.

Secondly, a pleasant greeter who seems to be glad we are there, followed by an equally pleasant server who makes us feel comfortable.

After these two, any number of issues can come into play - atmosphere, noise level, waiting times. etc.

So, what does it for you, or, doesn't do it for you?

[Happy Gourmand]

Originally Posted by camp guy

I have a question...what criteria do YOU use in determining your favorite restaurant?

Personally, my first impression with respect to cleanliness makes a big impact on me, and this includes walking up to the entrance door, the coat room area, and restrooms. Nothing, absolutely nothing, turns me off more quickly than having to navigate through a group of smokers standing outside a restaurant. This is a real deal breaker for me.

Secondly, a pleasant greeter who seems to be glad we are there, followed by an equally pleasant server who makes us feel comfortable.

After these two, any number of issues can come into play - atmosphere, noise level, waiting times. etc.

So, what does it for you, or, doesn't do it for you?

A great meal usually works for me. I can overlook a lot of other stuff if the actual meal meets or beats expectations.

[BroadHopper]

Many new restuarants are super when they open, then falls on their knees. So, if a reatuarant give consistence good service and food, they make my list. Any good establishment can have a bad day.

Any establishment that can own up to their mistake(s) and honor it is the key to customer satisfaction. The days of 'forgetaboutit' are long gone.

[lovetheforum]

Originally Posted by Resident 2B

I like these polls, regardless of the name or geographic location.

For me, it is not just the four places that are on top. They deserve to be where they are. What I also look at is where the restaurants were last year and where they are this year. Without getting into names, one place really stands out as having slipped rapidly to the bottom.

I have always believed the way the guests (customers) are treated goes a long, long way and for the restaurant that has slipped the most, it is starting to show. Those on the top of the poll treat their guests in a respectable manner. Glad to see this is being noticed by the masses.

R2B

I never thought of it that way. But as I read your post it makes perfect sense. Thank you for your post!

[phoenix]

I am starting to wonder the accuracy of this poll as some restaurants seem to get a large jump within a few hours. This has happened more than once

[Rusty]

As of right now there has been a total of 1883 votes casts in this poll. Where did all these votes come from?

Evidently there isn't too much control on who can vote other than you can't vote twice with the same IP address (and I'm not 100% sure about that).

IMO this poll would mean a whole lot more if only registered members could vote.

For example a guest under a dynamic IP votes once then refreshes it's IP and votes for the second time.

[patman]

These are far from scientific/bulletproof polls.

This poll does not limit votes by IP address. Logged in users can only vote once, and that's recorded on the site end of things based on userid. Log out of the site and you can vote again as a guest...which is recorded as a cookie on your browser since there's no userid to associate it with. And oh-by-the-way, those guest cookies are cleared when you log in and out. In fact, any time you log in to the site and then back out again you can vote again as a guest.

But that would be wrong.

[WakeboardMom]

Originally Posted by patman

These are far from scientific/bulletproof polls.

This poll does not limit votes by IP address. Logged in users can only vote once, and that's recorded on the site end of things based on userid. Log out of the site and you can vote again as a guest...which is recorded as a cookie on your browser since there's no userid to associate it with. And oh-by-the-way, those guest cookies are cleared when you log in and out. In fact, any time you log in to the site and then back out again you can vote again as a guest.

But that would be wrong.

I tried this. I have now voted once with my user ID and then twice as a guest(from the same computer), because I was curious. This now makes this poll completely invalid in my (humble) opinion.

[webmaster]

I have removed the ability for guests to vote in the polls. The polls were never meant to be scientific and guests were originally included to increase participation (guests online usually outnumber members by 10-1). Until this thread I never noticed guests flooding a poll with votes but it appears to be time to restrict the voting to registered members.

[BroadHopper]

It looks the the polling software does not capture IP addresses and store it on the server. If it did, multiple votes from one IP address shouldn't exist. The problem with this setup is that if more than one person tries to vote from the same IP address they could not.

I think limiting the polls to members makes sense. This will eliminate 'stuffing' the polls and family members with with different accounts can vote from the same IP address or computer.

In all fairness, I will in a later date, established a poll of all restuarants who advertised here on the forum and those who advertised in the 'Boater's Secret' publication to determined 'Winnipesaukee.com' best of the best. If I can't poll all restuarants in one poll, I will established two polls, 'The 'boros' and the 'non 'boros'. With Don limiting members only, we should have a fair representation of what the members like.

[diz]

Originally Posted by BroadHopper

It looks the the polling software does not capture IP addresses and store it on the server. If it did, multiple votes from one IP address shouldn't exist. The problem with this setup is that if more than one person tries to vote from the same IP address they could not.

I think limiting the polls to members makes sense. This will eliminate 'stuffing' the polls and family members with with different accounts can vote from the same IP address or computer.

In all fairness, I will in a later date, established a poll of all restuarants who advertised here on the forum and those who advertised in the 'Boater's Secret' publication to determined 'Winnipesaukee.com' best of the best. If I can't poll all restuarants in one poll, I will established two polls, 'The 'boros' and the 'non 'boros'. With Don limiting members only, we should have a fair representation of what the members like.

If you limit one vote to one IP aren't you essentially limiting people voting at work or a couple at home behind a cheap Linksys router? Their 'real' IPs aren't the source IPs.

[Rusty]

Originally Posted by diz

If you limit one vote to one IP aren't you essentially limiting people voting at work or a couple at home behind a cheap Linksys router? Their 'real' IPs aren't the source IPs.

The webmaster has now set it up so that only registered forum members can vote. That means it won't use the IP address in the equation. It will use the forum members qualitative identity (a numerical ID).

If you vote at work it really doesn't matter. When you get home and log in you won't be able to vote again.