Believe It or Not! - More Anti-SL Legislation

songkrai · 06-04-2012, 04:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Bear Islander

Thank you for confirming what I wrote in my original post.

In strait speech "review and prioritize safety laws" means eliminate the speed limit. A law is either on the books or it is not. What is the point of reviewing and prioritizing existing laws if they are not going to be altered? Spin, Spin, Spin!

Why do we need to review a law that took effect only this past January and failed to be modified only this past spring? Could it be that you are looking for any possible means to kill the speed limit? That's what I think.

If you really want to "put a halt" to this kind of scrutiny all you need to do is stop trying to "back door" eliminate the speed limit.

What a waste of time and resources. No hidden agenda?

What do these folks do down there in Concord?

Yes, we do need a congressional committee to review whether a boat needs a brass bell or not. Study it. Bring in a bunch of brass bells to the hearings. Ding them all. Check the decibal readings on all. Study the composition of brass bells versus steel bells. Set minimum size for all. Bring in the brass bell industry to testify. Bring in the brass bell lobbyists. Make a report. Publish the report.

Yes, yes, yes. Study all. We do need another study.

Can we get the names of the folks on this committee? I'd like to see the minutes of such committee posted some place.

VitaBene · 06-06-2012, 07:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by songkrai

What a waste of time and resources. No hidden agenda?

What do these folks do down there in Concord?

Yes, we do need a congressional committee to review whether a boat needs a brass bell or not. Study it. Bring in a bunch of brass bells to the hearings. Ding them all. Check the decibal readings on all. Study the composition of brass bells versus steel bells. Set minimum size for all. Bring in the brass bell industry to testify. Bring in the brass bell lobbyists. Make a report. Publish the report.

Yes, yes, yes. Study all. We do need another study.

Can we get the names of the folks on this committee? I'd like to see the minutes of such committee posted some place.

In the power Squadron, they are known as a "bell in a box" because that is where most are kept!

Woodsy · 06-12-2012, 09:33 AM

Vitabene...

Mine is def a "Bell In The Box"! LOL! the chances of me being out on the lake in a fogged in situation are pretty much slim to none. Although If I were an ocean boater that would be a different story.

Woodsy

codeman671 · 06-12-2012, 08:20 PM

I chuckled on Sunday when I put our "bell in a box" on our new boat. It never left the box when I bought our last Monterey in 05, it is still in the box to go in this one even though a few years have passed between larger boats where it was needed.

jrc · 06-13-2012, 06:05 AM

Since the people at SBONH are busy and involve in boater safety, maybe they should take a look at the equipment requirements for NH boats? There are subtle differences between the NH requirments, and the USCG. Some might make sense to adjust like this one.

OCDACTIVE · 06-13-2012, 09:02 AM

SBONH petitioned the NH Marine Patrol to remove the inland requirement of the "brass bell".

This requirement was part of administration rules and not an RSA.

At the beginning of this years legislative session the Marine Patrol at the request of SBONH submitted to have this rule removed. Since that time the rules have been approved and just awaiting final signature, which will not happen until this coming fall. So it should be changed by the 2013 boating season.

I was going to wait to announce this until it is official, however seeing this conversation I thought I would mention that SBONH has be conducting a full review of all rules and RSA's that may be obsolete on inland waterways.

Please remember this change is NOT official as of yet, so please continue to carry your bell until further notice.

tis · 06-13-2012, 12:34 PM

We have a big mounted bell in our boat but it isn't brass. It is silver colored. It rings when it is really rough. This can drive you crazy. It would be nice not to have it there, but I wouldn't take it off, it came with the boat.

jrc · 06-13-2012, 02:13 PM

The bell makers guild will sue!

tis · 06-13-2012, 05:15 PM

I know! Guess it must meet approval though. We never got a ticket for a silver bell instead of a brass bell!!

gtagrip · 06-15-2012, 12:21 PM

You know, I got a ticket for not having a bell when we upgraded in size form a 24' to 30'. MP told me that for nay boat in size 26' and over needs to have a bell on board and under 26' does not. So, why does a 26' boat needs a bell and under 26' does not need a bell? I have never figured this one out.

I guess it's O.K. to be stuck in the fog in a boat under 26' but not O.K. in a boat over 26'? Where's the logic?

06-12-2012, 09:33 AM	#3
Woodsy Senior Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Weirs Beach Posts: 1,966 Thanks: 80 Thanked 980 Times in 440 Posts	Vitabene... Mine is def a "Bell In The Box"! LOL! the chances of me being out on the lake in a fogged in situation are pretty much slim to none. Although If I were an ocean boater that would be a different story. Woodsy __________________ The only way to eliminate ignorant behavior is through education. You can't fix stupid.

06-13-2012, 09:02 AM	#6
OCDACTIVE Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Fort Myers FL / Moultonboro Posts: 1,045 Thanks: 444 Thanked 574 Times in 178 Posts	Good news! SBONH petitioned the NH Marine Patrol to remove the inland requirement of the "brass bell". This requirement was part of administration rules and not an RSA. At the beginning of this years legislative session the Marine Patrol at the request of SBONH submitted to have this rule removed. Since that time the rules have been approved and just awaiting final signature, which will not happen until this coming fall. So it should be changed by the 2013 boating season. I was going to wait to announce this until it is official, however seeing this conversation I thought I would mention that SBONH has be conducting a full review of all rules and RSA's that may be obsolete on inland waterways. Please remember this change is NOT official as of yet, so please continue to carry your bell until further notice. __________________ Have you had your Vessel Inspected Yet? Last edited by OCDACTIVE; 06-13-2012 at 09:57 AM. Reason: grammer

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06-12-2012, 08:20 PM	#4
codeman671 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 3,499 Thanks: 221 Thanked 815 Times in 489 Posts	I chuckled on Sunday when I put our "bell in a box" on our new boat. It never left the box when I bought our last Monterey in 05, it is still in the box to go in this one even though a few years have passed between larger boats where it was needed.

06-13-2012, 06:05 AM	#5
jrc Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: NH Posts: 2,689 Thanks: 33 Thanked 439 Times in 249 Posts	Since the people at SBONH are busy and involve in boater safety, maybe they should take a look at the equipment requirements for NH boats? There are subtle differences between the NH requirments, and the USCG. Some might make sense to adjust like this one.

06-13-2012, 12:34 PM	#7
tis Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 6,742 Thanks: 752 Thanked 1,459 Times in 1,016 Posts	We have a big mounted bell in our boat but it isn't brass. It is silver colored. It rings when it is really rough. This can drive you crazy. It would be nice not to have it there, but I wouldn't take it off, it came with the boat.

06-13-2012, 02:13 PM	#8
jrc Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: NH Posts: 2,689 Thanks: 33 Thanked 439 Times in 249 Posts	The bell makers guild will sue!

06-13-2012, 05:15 PM	#9
tis Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 6,742 Thanks: 752 Thanked 1,459 Times in 1,016 Posts	I know! Guess it must meet approval though. We never got a ticket for a silver bell instead of a brass bell!!

06-15-2012, 12:21 PM	#10
gtagrip Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 301 Thanks: 115 Thanked 75 Times in 52 Posts	You know, I got a ticket for not having a bell when we upgraded in size form a 24' to 30'. MP told me that for nay boat in size 26' and over needs to have a bell on board and under 26' does not. So, why does a 26' boat needs a bell and under 26' does not need a bell? I have never figured this one out. I guess it's O.K. to be stuck in the fog in a boat under 26' but not O.K. in a boat over 26'? Where's the logic?