Lake Treasure

kozakgar · 10-10-2011, 10:15 AM

Alton finds yesterday, 1 CASSIDY & Co. Rochester NH, 2 N.H. Gilbert, Somerset NH, and 3 a small Virginia Dare extract bottle. My daughter found all 3, me zero. Must be my old eyes.

SIKSUKR · 10-10-2011, 10:19 AM

Those are great finds. Nice looking bottles.

scubajay1153 · 10-10-2011, 01:01 PM

Very nice finds!
I have been poking around Rum Point without finding anything. Have to tell the wife I need to buy a boat access more intriguing dive sites such as off the Winni Pier....sigh.

Jonas Pilot · 10-10-2011, 02:20 PM

Great thread all. Thanks for sharing.

bclaker · 10-10-2011, 02:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scubajay1153

Very nice finds!
I have been poking around Rum Point without finding anything. Have to tell the wife I need to buy a boat access more intriguing dive sites such as off the Winni Pier....sigh.

Some of the opening days of the salmon season I can remember gusts of wind taking lawn chairs, cell phones etc. off the Mount Washington dock at Alton Bay. I lost my hat, but was able to recover it.

kozakgar · 10-10-2011, 05:11 PM

Thanks everyone. The best part of seeing my daughter find these little tokens is that many years down the road she will look at each item and it will take her back down memory lane when , where, and with who she discovered these. I have many of those kind of items around my home, and each one takes me back in time to re-live those fun and great moments in life. It is her turn to start collecting those memories.

Diver1111 · 10-11-2011, 08:15 PM

Wow those are really neat Kozakgar; That small one in the middle-triangular in shape-is very interesting; The others with their embossing-very nice.

Any idea what it held?

Any idea as to their worth?

I've found lots of bottles but nothing in a long time with the embossing that looks anywhere near that intricate.

Diver1111 · 10-11-2011, 08:37 PM

The following will help you date a bottle; I learned a long time ago that bottles bearing an inscription relating to the re-filling of a bottle ("Federal Law Forbids Sale or Reuse of This Bottle") dates it as being made after 1932-one year after Prohibition ended; The Volstead Act created Prohibition and ran from 1920-1932.

If I'm not mistaken it only applied to whiskey bottles.

http://www.bottlebooks.com/federal_law_prohibits_.htm

If you want to see an interesting documentary catch Ken Burns' PBS program "Prohibition"-all 3 parts. It just came out. Really well done.

kozakgar · 10-12-2011, 07:48 AM

Thanks Hans for info on dating bottles. The small bottle was made by Virginia Dare, the same company that made the wine bottle my daughter found in the earlier post. Interesting history on Virginia Dare if you google it. The small bottle was for extracts that they sold and the bottom has their name on it. As far as the NH bottles what they held, I am not sure. Must of been soda. If anyone has any history on these 2 NH companies would like to hear about it. Do you have any more talks planned?

kozakgar · 10-12-2011, 08:01 AM

Hans

see

http://www.brooklynology.org/post/20...inia-Dare.aspx

http://www.answers.com/topic/virgini...ct-company-inc

SIKSUKR · 10-12-2011, 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by kozakgar

Alton finds yesterday, 1 CASSIDY & Co. Rochester NH, 2 N.H. Gilbert, Somerset NH, and 3 a small Virginia Dare extract bottle. My daughter found all 3, me zero. Must be my old eyes.

I think you're right on your eyes. That one bottle is embossed Somersworth NH and not Somerset.

kozakgar · 10-12-2011, 04:08 PM

Siksukr You are correct, confirms my suspicion

scubajay1153 · 10-12-2011, 07:29 PM

Found a bottle marked with the "Not for..." post prohibition warning today of Ahern Park. Also found a neat old clay pipe from Glascow, Scotland like we used to find in the Piscataqua River in Portsmouth. Going to have to do some more resaerch on the pipes to figure out how old they are.

kozakgar · 10-12-2011, 07:51 PM

scubajay1153, please post pictures, would like to really to see. Thanks

Grant · 10-13-2011, 12:30 PM

Some goodies from a September dive. The square bottle has the "Not for..." language embossed on it, and the pottery does have a hole in it. Of course, when I found it in the muck, it was half-buried, hole-side-down, so for a second there I thought I had a real keeper. But I kept it for the garden.

kozakgar · 10-13-2011, 02:04 PM

Grant, very nice. The square one is sweet. Where were you diving for these?

scubajay1153 · 10-13-2011, 06:59 PM

hm....having trouble figuring out how to post pictures here....still working on it. May be a few days as I am working Friday, teaching at the Fire Academy over the weekend, working Monday and at class all day Tuesday. AS soon as I can get it working and post some I would love to have some insight into some of the cool stuff I have dug up. I will be back in the lakes looking for more next week!

Grant · 10-16-2011, 08:30 AM

Two old favorite Lake finds...

Rectangular cork-top:

FOSS' 2 OZ FL
LIQUID FRUIT FLAVORS
PORTLAND, ME

Side panel: FULL STRENGTH
Side panel: STANDARD QUALITY

Round whisky bottle:

ESTABLISHED 1851
W.H. JONES & CO.
BOSTON

Trade mark in the middle has a bear and Latin, "OPTIMA SATIS BONA EST"

The glass has some nice bubbles in it. I know this company also made a "flask" bottle. It would be awesome to complete the set with one of those!

10-10-2011, 10:15 AM	#1
kozakgar Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 13 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 5 Posts	Yesterdays finds Alton finds yesterday, 1 CASSIDY & Co. Rochester NH, 2 N.H. Gilbert, Somerset NH, and 3 a small Virginia Dare extract bottle. My daughter found all 3, me zero. Must be my old eyes. Attached Images

10-10-2011, 10:19 AM	#2
SIKSUKR Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 5,075 Thanks: 215 Thanked 903 Times in 509 Posts	Those are great finds. Nice looking bottles. __________________ SIKSUKR

10-10-2011, 01:01 PM	#3
scubajay1153 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Gilford Posts: 93 Thanks: 2 Thanked 8 Times in 7 Posts	Very cool! Very nice finds! I have been poking around Rum Point without finding anything. Have to tell the wife I need to buy a boat access more intriguing dive sites such as off the Winni Pier....sigh.

10-11-2011, 08:15 PM	#7
Diver1111 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Exeter NH Posts: 604 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1,032 Times in 227 Posts	Bottles Wow those are really neat Kozakgar; That small one in the middle-triangular in shape-is very interesting; The others with their embossing-very nice. Any idea what it held? Any idea as to their worth? I've found lots of bottles but nothing in a long time with the embossing that looks anywhere near that intricate.

10-11-2011, 08:37 PM	#8
Diver1111 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Exeter NH Posts: 604 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1,032 Times in 227 Posts	Dating old bottles and Prohibition The following will help you date a bottle; I learned a long time ago that bottles bearing an inscription relating to the re-filling of a bottle ("Federal Law Forbids Sale or Reuse of This Bottle") dates it as being made after 1932-one year after Prohibition ended; The Volstead Act created Prohibition and ran from 1920-1932. If I'm not mistaken it only applied to whiskey bottles. http://www.bottlebooks.com/federal_law_prohibits_.htm If you want to see an interesting documentary catch Ken Burns' PBS program "Prohibition"-all 3 parts. It just came out. Really well done.

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10-10-2011, 02:20 PM	#4
Jonas Pilot Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Wolfeboro, New Hampshire is my home, 24-7-365 Posts: 1,686 Thanks: 1,047 Thanked 336 Times in 189 Posts	Great thread all. Thanks for sharing.

10-10-2011, 05:11 PM	#6
kozakgar Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 13 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 5 Posts	Thanks everyone. The best part of seeing my daughter find these little tokens is that many years down the road she will look at each item and it will take her back down memory lane when , where, and with who she discovered these. I have many of those kind of items around my home, and each one takes me back in time to re-live those fun and great moments in life. It is her turn to start collecting those memories.

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10-12-2011, 07:48 AM	#9
kozakgar Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 13 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 5 Posts	Thanks Hans for info on dating bottles. The small bottle was made by Virginia Dare, the same company that made the wine bottle my daughter found in the earlier post. Interesting history on Virginia Dare if you google it. The small bottle was for extracts that they sold and the bottom has their name on it. As far as the NH bottles what they held, I am not sure. Must of been soda. If anyone has any history on these 2 NH companies would like to hear about it. Do you have any more talks planned?

10-12-2011, 08:01 AM	#10
kozakgar Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 13 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 5 Posts	Hans see http://www.brooklynology.org/post/20...inia-Dare.aspx http://www.answers.com/topic/virgini...ct-company-inc

10-12-2011, 04:08 PM	#12
kozakgar Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 13 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 5 Posts	Siksukr You are correct, confirms my suspicion

10-12-2011, 07:29 PM	#13
scubajay1153 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Gilford Posts: 93 Thanks: 2 Thanked 8 Times in 7 Posts	Found a bottle marked with the "Not for..." post prohibition warning today of Ahern Park. Also found a neat old clay pipe from Glascow, Scotland like we used to find in the Piscataqua River in Portsmouth. Going to have to do some more resaerch on the pipes to figure out how old they are.

10-12-2011, 07:51 PM	#14
kozakgar Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 13 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 5 Posts	scubajay1153, please post pictures, would like to really to see. Thanks

10-13-2011, 12:30 PM	#15
Grant Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Pennsyltuckey, Tuftonboro, Moultonborough Posts: 1,501 Thanks: 377 Thanked 230 Times in 124 Posts	Some goodies from a September dive. The square bottle has the "Not for..." language embossed on it, and the pottery does have a hole in it. Of course, when I found it in the muck, it was half-buried, hole-side-down, so for a second there I thought I had a real keeper. But I kept it for the garden. Attached Images __________________ "When I die, please don't let my wife sell my dive gear for what I told her I paid for it."

10-13-2011, 02:04 PM	#16
kozakgar Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 13 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 5 Posts	Grant, very nice. The square one is sweet. Where were you diving for these?

10-13-2011, 06:59 PM	#17
scubajay1153 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Gilford Posts: 93 Thanks: 2 Thanked 8 Times in 7 Posts	hm....having trouble figuring out how to post pictures here....still working on it. May be a few days as I am working Friday, teaching at the Fire Academy over the weekend, working Monday and at class all day Tuesday. AS soon as I can get it working and post some I would love to have some insight into some of the cool stuff I have dug up. I will be back in the lakes looking for more next week!

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10-16-2011, 08:30 AM	#18
Grant Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Pennsyltuckey, Tuftonboro, Moultonborough Posts: 1,501 Thanks: 377 Thanked 230 Times in 124 Posts	Two old favorite Lake finds... Rectangular cork-top: FOSS' 2 OZ FL LIQUID FRUIT FLAVORS PORTLAND, ME Side panel: FULL STRENGTH Side panel: STANDARD QUALITY Round whisky bottle: ESTABLISHED 1851 W.H. JONES & CO. BOSTON Trade mark in the middle has a bear and Latin, "OPTIMA SATIS BONA EST" The glass has some nice bubbles in it. I know this company also made a "flask" bottle. It would be awesome to complete the set with one of those! Attached Images __________________ "When I die, please don't let my wife sell my dive gear for what I told her I paid for it."

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