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Old 05-03-2005, 04:54 PM   #1
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Propeller,

I will remind you of my "gross exaggeration" again when one of the 4 or 5 large Formula/Fountains/Donzi's or Cig's that race up and down the lake every weekend hit someone or one another at high speed....... Remember , its not a question of if but when. There are quite a few boats on Winni that will do 90 and even some that will exceed 100 to 110. You need to be out our way on Saturday or Sunday. On another note I have nothing to do with WinnFabs are whatever it is. My position comes from experience with large power boats and contact with those that make/race large power boats.
Many of them feel as I do that these boats on Winni are silly. As for the arguement regarding the unfortunate accident in Merrideth applying to speed limits? Perhaps it does relate directly to the issue since that type of 36ft Baja would most likely never have been on the lake if a speed limit had existed..... chew on that. The very nature of the poor visibility in these boats due to the bow being high in the water and obstructing the drivers vision while bringing the boat on plane is a BIG reason as to why they don't belong on a congested lake.
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Old 05-03-2005, 05:42 PM   #2
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Propeller,

As for the arguement regarding the unfortunate accident in Merrideth applying to speed limits? Perhaps it does relate directly to the issue since that type of 36ft Baja would most likely never have been on the lake if a speed limit had existed..... chew on that. The very nature of the poor visibility in these boats due to the bow being high in the water and obstructing the drivers vision while bringing the boat on plane is a BIG reason as to why they don't belong on a congested lake.

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What manufacturer is going to say that there boats don't belong on the lake ? You people bring up this one accident , as tragic as it is ,and use it to scare people over to your way of thinking what a joke. Come up with facts not your narrow minded opinion.I can tell you that visibility is a none issue , and will show you first hand if you like , as my 30' boat hops up on plane with little or no bow risein meer seconds . I have been trying to stay quiet but you narrow minded individuales with your hidden agenda are realy starting to annoye me.Your scare tactics, false facts and personal acounts may sway a few people but i feel that if you took a pole today you would find the vast majority is not thinking the way you are and is a lot smarter than you think.EDUCATION AND MORE FUNDING TO ENFORCE EXISTING REG'S ARE THE KEY TO A SAFER LAKE!
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Old 05-03-2005, 07:12 PM   #3
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Default Bow lift again...

Great Idea, the subject of bow lift has come up before on speed-related topics. The time to plane on a 36' Baja is 3.5 seconds at 16.5. The funny thing is that the data for this was posted by Fat Jack who advocates for the speed limit. My post previous to that said that the boat can do well under 30mph. I have driven numerous boats in my life, probably more than most on here and can honestly say that for a 36' boat to plane so quickly and at such a low speed is impressive and does not create a dangerous situation with the bow obstructing view unless the driver simply does not know what they are doing. In this case it points back to boater education. I think that it has been established many times over that there were reasons other than speed for the unfortunate Littlefield accident. The outcome probably would have been the same if he was in a cruiser or bowrider. Alcohol and boating do not mix, especially at night. Were you there? I wasn't. Only those there that night can attest to the true nature of the accident so will people please stop blaming speed for this when even MP and countless hours of professional accident reconstruction cannot attribute the accident to this???

The number of boats on Winni that approach the 90-100mph mark is very few. A few cat hulls and an occasional step hull might make it there but not many. I looked at a 38' Baja recently for sale and on its best day with 525's it is a 70mph boat. A far cry from 100mph.
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Old 05-03-2005, 07:54 PM   #4
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I will remind you of my "gross exaggeration" again when one of the 4 or 5 large Formula/Fountains/Donzi's or Cig's that race up and down the lake every weekend hit someone or one another at high speed
Are you really upset about 4 or 5 boats running up and down the lake on a weekend? That’s it....... 4 or 5. You think that restricting 4 or 5 boats will make a significant change and better serve our tax dollars than if put toward enforcenent and education?

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My position comes from experience with large powerboats and contact with those that make/race large power boats.
Many of them feel as I do that these boats on Winni are silly.
Regardless of what people think it was you that pointed out, we are welcome to use our boats anywhere we like as long as we do so safely. (Or was the invite just of me)

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As for the argument regarding the unfortunate accident in Merrideth applying to speed limits? Perhaps it does relate directly to the issue since that type of 36ft Baja would most likely never have been on the lake if a speed limit had existed..... chew on that
I am purchasing property on the lake this spring and my boats ("GFBL" included) are coming to stay, regardless....... What’s for desert?

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Old 05-03-2005, 11:47 PM   #5
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Propeller,

I will remind you of my "gross exaggeration" again when one of the 4 or 5 large Formula/Fountains/Donzi's or Cig's that race up and down the lake every weekend hit someone or one another at high speed....... Remember , its not a question of if but when. There are quite a few boats on Winni that will do 90 and even some that will exceed 100 to 110. You need to be out our way on Saturday or Sunday. On another note I have nothing to do with WinnFabs are whatever it is. My position comes from experience with large power boats and contact with those that make/race large power boats.
Many of them feel as I do that these boats on Winni are silly. As for the arguement regarding the unfortunate accident in Merrideth applying to speed limits? Perhaps it does relate directly to the issue since that type of 36ft Baja would most likely never have been on the lake if a speed limit had existed..... chew on that. The very nature of the poor visibility in these boats due to the bow being high in the water and obstructing the drivers vision while bringing the boat on plane is a BIG reason as to why they don't belong on a congested lake.
Have you ever been on the lake??? Winni ..RIGHT ???
There are a handful of boats that will reach over 70-75 , never mind 90 or 100-110
Please stop ranting and raving ..these are just not the facts
I was on winni over 200 hours last year and never once had a problem with a speeding boat..
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