Shooting Bears

[RI Swamp Yankee]

Originally Posted by SteveA

I know, as of tomorrow, "Tourist Season" is over, so we have to stop shooting them.

Whew ... I feel better now

Originally Posted by SteveA

But, can we get an extension for Leaf Peepers that drive really slow?

YES

Now the real question(s):
Can we expect Bear Steak on the Bob House menu now?
Is there going to be a bear skin rug on the floor of the Bob House?

[jmen24]

Originally Posted by SAMIAM

.........Last thought.....if you want to be a great white hunter,go in the woods like a man......don't ambush a hungry bear beside a dumpster!

That would also be illegal seeing that most dumpsters are located within 300 feet of the building that they service.

Additionally:
This bear would have been put down eventually. It is all to common for people to allow an animal access to food within close proximity to themselves for their own enjoyment, then as the animal becomes more aggressive and starts looking for fresher food the looky-loo's all of a sudden do not think it is neat to see an animal that close.

No way of knowing if the situation of the shooting went down exactly as described, but sounds unlikely that it would have been shot within any proximity of buildings or out of season as a report for illegal harvest of an animal would be on file with fish and game, unless THEY handled the removal.

P.S. I know all of us hunters are just ignorant cowboys that go shooting the place up whenever we get a chance to fire a weapon at an animal, but there are severe penalties for violating any of this states hunting laws or regulations.

[CrawfordCentury]

Originally Posted by RI Swamp Yankee

Now the real question(s):
Can we expect Bear Steak on the Bob House menu now?

I am shocked...SHOCKED!...

...that it took 40 post to find one that addressed the first thing that popped into my head.

That said, bearmeat would be a welcome change - now that locally-available tourist is no longer in season. (A little too gamey for my delicate pallette, anyhoo).

[Argie's Wife]

Originally Posted by CrawfordCentury

I am shocked...SHOCKED!...

...that it took 40 post to find one that addressed the first thing that popped into my head.

That said, bearmeat would be a welcome change - now that locally-available tourist is no longer in season. (A little too gamey for my delicate pallette, anyhoo).

Maybe they're using it for a filler in their lobster rolls....

[Newbiesaukee]

That thought is too much to bear.

[CrawfordCentury]

Originally Posted by Newbiesaukee

That thought is too much to bear.

I didn't know our climate could sustain pun-da bears.

[SIKSUKR]

How do know that the owners of the Bobhouse had this bear killed? This needs to be addressed before the bashing continues.

[Pineedles]

Ah, some sanity has filtered its way into this thread.

[djj]

Originally Posted by SIKSUKR

How do know that the owners of the Bobhouse had this bear killed? This needs to be addressed before the bashing continues.

Two very reliable sources close to the situation. The owner herself told both sources she was planning on doing this. One of the sources contacted the police when they and several other witnesses saw a man walking around the property with a gun. The police referred this source to Fish and Game. I do not know all the details of what happened with Fish and Game, but do know that phone calls were not returned. The owner recently told one of the sources that the bear had been shot. The second source confronted the owner and the owner confirmed to the second source that it had been done.

[djj]

I don't know the exact date of the shooting and am not sure of the exact location of the shooting. I don't know if it was within a certain number of feet of surrounding buildings or the dumpster in question. According to my sources it was either done on the property itself or one of the abutting properties. My sources tried to get more details, but everybody involved seems to be keeping hush about the details of the situation.

Again, all of this really has nothing to do with my original post. I don't care of the legality nor the procedures followed. I just wish they had tried replacing the dumpster before offing the bear.

By the way, I DO NOT work for the dumpster company or any waste management company.

[Pineedles]

Originally Posted by djj

By the way, I DO NOT work for the dumpster company or any waste management company.

Thank you for answering my question.

[jmen24]

Originally Posted by djj

Again, all of this really has nothing to do with my original post. I don't care of the legality nor the procedures followed. I just wish they had tried replacing the dumpster before offing the bear.

Because it would have found another dumpster to dive in. Most animal lovers that say do not shoot the animals because it is a violation of their rights, fail to realize that the following is fact:

If a wild animal becomes attached to human food and human scent and human sounds, it has lost is wild instincts and is a danger to the general public and will eventually get shot, removed or hit by a car or maul a kid or any number of other things that you can think of.

Allowing the bear access to the dumpster in the beginning was wrong and caused this situation in the first place, I have read your posts and I understand that this has been your feeling all along, that they should have replaced the dumpster after they noticed the bear entering it, but they did not, and this happens all the time, it does not make it right. Animals that are as bullheaded as bears will always find a way for an easy meal whether it is from the Bobhouse dumpster, or their neighbors feeders or the list goes on.

The reason fish and game is not responding to the phone calls is because this is not a new thing. It happens all the time, mostly it is a once and a while thing. It is equivilent to your neighbor calling the police everytime you go to the mail box. Most people do not realize that they should not call fish and game headquarters for a situation like this, but they should call the CO that is in charge of that sector of the state. Fish and Game has many more important things to do than to respond to a call from an animal lover to hear them jump up and down about how terrible these people are and what they are putting this bear through.

Do not let your views fuel your emotion toward this situation. Try writing them a nice friendly letter and ask them to upgrade their dumpster before this situation presents itself again, because it will. Coming on an open forum and saying that we should not patronize a business is not the way to handle it. Move on and try to prevent the next case from happening.

Life is like paddling a canoe down river. Concentrate on the rocks ahead not the rocks you have past.

[djj]

Originally Posted by jmen24

Do not let your views fuel your emotion toward this situation. Try writing them a nice friendly letter and ask them to upgrade their dumpster before this situation presents itself again, because it will. Coming on an open forum and saying that we should not patronize a business is not the way to handle it. Move on and try to prevent the next case from happening.

Thank you! Maybe you are right. Perhaps I should be handling the situation differently. I have been pondering the idea of approaching the owners directly to express my views. I haven't quite determined whether I will or will not do this or how I would go about it if I do.

[chipj29]

Originally Posted by djj

Thank you! Maybe you are right. Perhaps I should be handling the situation differently. I have been pondering the idea of approaching the owners directly to express my views. I haven't quite determined whether I will or will not do this or how I would go about it if I do.

Maybe it would be best if you went to the owners and asked them what happened. That way you can form your opinion based on what actually happened, as opposed to what you heard had happened.

[NoRegrets]

What would have happened if the bear was in the dumpster feeding zone and a patrons child ran to it and something bad happened? If anyone found out that the establishment knew of the "wild-life" and potential encounter how big would the law suit be?

I do not think the establishment would stay in business.

[RI Swamp Yankee]

hmmm.... another thought.. a tripple B sandwich

Bobhouse Bear Burgers

[breathe easy]

Originally Posted by NoRegrets

What would have happened if the bear was in the dumpster feeding zone and a patrons child ran to it and something bad happened? If anyone found out that the establishment knew of the "wild-life" and potential encounter how big would the law suit be?

I do not think the establishment would stay in business.

The last fatal bear attack in NH occurred in 1784.
Just in case though,the patrons should probably keep a closer eye on their child and keep him or her away from the dumpster.

[Pineedles]

And when was the last disfiguring mauling?

[NoBozo]

"Black Bears are TOTALLY Harmless". .......... Okey Dokey: I think there was a case VERY recently (Like last week) a little south of NH where a women who LOVED Bears, and had one for a PET got Mauled to Death by her very own bear. OH Well. She also had a Bengal Tiger as a pet...so I guess she had enough experience with wild animals......NO..??

It's Just SAD. The animals just Don't Understand how much we humans care for them. *** NB

PS:*** We need a SAD Emoticon.

[EricP]

I'm disgusted by the fact that their first response to the situiation was to kill the bear rather than upgrade the dumpster. I could care less about what is legal or not in this situation. They were originally amused by the bear then when it suddenly became a problem by making a mess kill it? Outrageous, simply outrageous! Don't try to actually solve the problem, just kill it. There is no excuse for that type of behavior.

I'll never step foot through the doors of that place.

[dpg]

Originally Posted by NoBozo

"Black Bears are TOTALLY Harmless". .......... Okey Dokey: I think there was a case VERY recently (Like last week) a little south of NH where a women who LOVED Bears, and had one for a PET got Mauled to Death by her very own bear. OH Well. She also had a Bengal Tiger as a pet...so I guess she had enough experience with wild animals......NO..??

It's Just SAD. The animals just Don't Understand how much we humans care for them. *** NB

PS:*** We need a SAD Emoticon.

I find it very strange more people get mauled and attacked by Pit Bulls ( yes, pet dogs ) than by Bears. Don't you??