Black Bear near the Weirs Channel

Doral350 · 08-31-2009, 10:11 AM

Does anyone know what happened to the black bear that was running around the channel on Sunday afternoon?

dpg · 08-31-2009, 10:40 AM

He was bull !@#$. He was looking for Waldos and didn't know they had moved.

Sorry, obviously I do not.

Water Camper · 08-31-2009, 04:17 PM

Black Bear, weighing approx. 400 pounds, seen in our driveway this morning about 9:00 just north of the Paugus Bay Sports place, Weirs Boulevard. VERY BIG! Ambled around, headed to neighbors property, down their driveway toward the Boulevard probably looking for food (trash day). He/she ate all the apples put out for deer in our upper grove. Not feeding deer anymore!

webmaster · 08-31-2009, 06:23 PM

A local businessman sent me this picture. Look on the roof:

Water Camper · 08-31-2009, 06:32 PM

Hi Don. Where is this business? .... couldn't make out the sign. If bear are climbing on buildings, I'm staying INSIDE!
Sue

NHskier · 08-31-2009, 06:34 PM

This looks to be the real estate office right next to the old Handy Landing convenience store. Right by the jet ski rental place. Not far from the channel bridge!!

webmaster · 08-31-2009, 06:47 PM

It's just across from the old Waldo Peppers (for now the Chao Pra Ya Thai & Sushi).

robmac · 08-31-2009, 07:03 PM

Thanks Don,very cool pic.

dpg · 09-01-2009, 06:41 AM

Is this a real picture, I mean the bear that is? How the heck could he get on the roof. Maybe from the tree in the picture however the branches do not look like they would hold him.

upthesaukee · 09-01-2009, 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by dpg

Is this a real picture, I mean the bear that is? How the heck could he get on the roof. Maybe from the tree in the picture however the branches do not look like they would hold him.

If you save the picture to your computer, then open it in a photo editing software, enlarge it, and then lighten it some, you will see the red cape and red&yellow "S"!!!!

dpg · 09-02-2009, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by upthesaukee

If you save the picture to your computer, then open it in a photo editing software, enlarge it, and then lighten it some, you will see the red cape and red&yellow "S"!!!!

ookkkk so it is a fixed up pic??

Resident 2B · 09-02-2009, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by dpg

ookkkk so it is a fixed up pic??

No idea who the poster is, but looking at the shadows on the table, the photo looks real to me.

R2B

BGB2 · 09-02-2009, 12:34 PM

I received the picture from a friend. I asked him if the picture was real. He told me that to the best of his knowledge it is real i.e. not altered. The location of the picture is unknown to me. If the bear was wearing a football helmet, I'd guess that it was a Chicago Bear or University of Maine Bear and the picture was altered.

ApS · 10-09-2009, 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by fatlazyless

"...The bear would creep into the Valley at night and visit the public trash cans..."

Just a few years ago, the Valley's Owl's Nest Resort had no air-conditioning. On one particularly hot evening, I heard through the open window, "Daddy, there's a bear in the parking lot!"

Sure enough, cool as a cucumber, a black bear was wandering between cars and SUVs.

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Originally Posted by dpg

ookkkk so it is a fixed up pic??

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Originally Posted by Resident 2B

No idea who the poster is, but looking at the shadows on the table, the photo looks real to me. R2B

Another pic from the Web suggests it is real: it's titled, "Service in this place stinks".

fatlazyless · 10-09-2009, 10:21 PM

In thinking about the recent necessary but unfortunate death of the huge bear by the Fish & Game Dept, it certainly seems like the available easy trash can food at the Waterville Valley Town Square is the problem. Fish & Game promotes their "A fed bear is a dead bear" safety program and suggests for home owners to bring in their outdoor bird feeders. And, the Town of Waterville Valley requires that every one of the numerous, like maybe 100 different dumpsters in town, be bear proof. Bear proof means they have locks or latches which strongly deter bears when people remember to use them.

Over at the Town Square, there's aproximately four or five different 32 gallon trash deposit cans, made of rubbermaid plastic, and the bears quickly learn to tip them over and dig through the trash for left over food.The bears show up very regularly each night. The area is basically an outdoor food court with about five different food businesses that sell take -out pizza, ice cream, sandwiches, buritos, and chocolate to the xc skiers, bicyclers, hockey players, kayakers, swimmers, and vacationers.

Knowing that "a fed bear is a dead bear" and that the unsecure large plastic trash deposit style trash cans have been in place for ten plus years, then what is the basis for the problem here........is it the the trash cans or the bears?

Seems like they need to figure out some bear proof trash litter cans, just as the Town has required bear proof dumpsters. As bears will always be bears, and easy to get discarded pizza, buritos, chocolate, ice crean and sandwiches will add up to more bears needing to be destroyed by Fish & Game.

Now, building a trash-litter deposit can that is bear proof is probably not an easy thing to do, as the bear proof dumpsters are built of very sturdy welded steel and the trash cans are built of trash can plastic.

So, what's a bear to do? ... www.watervillevalley.org

trfour · 10-10-2009, 12:31 AM

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Originally Posted by fatlazyless

In thinking about the recent necessary but unfortunate death of the huge bear by the Fish & Game Dept, it certainly seems like the available easy trash can food at the Waterville Valley Town Square is the problem. Fish & Game promotes their "A fed bear is a dead bear" safety program and suggests for home owners to bring in their outdoor bird feeders. And, the Town of Waterville Valley requires that every one of the numerous, like maybe 100 different dumpsters in town, be bear proof. Bear proof means they have locks or latches which strongly deter bears when people remember to use them.

Over at the Town Square, there's aproximately four or five different 32 gallon trash deposit cans, made of rubbermaid plastic, and the bears quickly learn to tip them over and dig through the trash for left over food.The bears show up very regularly each night. The area is basically an outdoor food court with about five different food businesses that sell take -out pizza, ice cream, sandwiches, buritos, and chocolate to the xc skiers, bicyclers, hockey players, kayakers, swimmers, and vacationers.

Knowing that "a fed bear is a dead bear" and that the unsecure large plastic trash deposit style trash cans have been in place for ten plus years, then what is the basis for the problem here........is it the the trash cans or the bears?

Seems like they need to figure out some bear proof trash litter cans, just as the Town has required bear proof dumpsters. As bears will always be bears, and easy to get discarded pizza, buritos, chocolate, ice crean and sandwiches will add up to more bears needing to be destroyed by Fish & Game.

Now, building a trash-litter deposit can that is bear proof is probably not an easy thing to do, as the bear proof dumpsters are built of very sturdy welded steel and the trash cans are built of trash can plastic.

So, what's a bear to do? ... www.watervillevalley.org

A panda ponder situation, FLL.

I know what the bears can do to dumpsters and such in the Lakes region. We do need to protect the bears and they can be very clever, ( Push Push ) Factor.

Yosemite Sam · 10-10-2009, 06:36 PM

I tried to take a picture of the Bear on the roof and Papa Bear didn't like it to well!

webmaster · 09-01-2009, 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dpg

How the heck could he get on the roof.

Here's how:

SIKSUKR · 09-01-2009, 12:28 PM

Looks like he just finished eating in that dumpster.

NoRegrets · 09-01-2009, 01:10 PM

We are not hunters but I wonder what the suggested action would be if someone encountered a bear like in these pictures? What if a child was nearby or on the balcony and thought it was a big dog? I haven't heard of a encounter in this area yet but there have been maulings in New Jersy and Tennessee within the past few years.

I have foxes and fisher cats travel through my yard at different times of the year. I also bring my little dog out at night on a leash and carry a small bat. Should I upgrade to a hand gun? Any suggestions?

hilltopper · 09-01-2009, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by NoRegrets

We are not hunters but I wonder what the suggested action would be if someone encountered a bear like in these pictures? What if a child was nearby or on the balcony and thought it was a big dog? I haven't heard of a encounter in this area yet but there have been maulings in New Jersy and Tennessee within the past few years.

I have foxes and fisher cats travel through my yard at different times of the year. I also bring my little dog out at night on a leash and carry a small bat. Should I upgrade to a hand gun? Any suggestions?

If you're truly concerned you can carry a spray. It's like pepper spray but made to ward off bears.

jmen24 · 09-01-2009, 02:30 PM

Spray would cover it. It would be best not to think about a child thinking that bear was a big dog in the confined space of a balcony or dumpster, but out in the open it would probably just take off. Most Black bears want as little to do with you as you do them, but they are a powerful animal that will defend themselves if THEY feel its needed.

Upgrading to a gun carries a lot of weight and should not be taken lightly, unless you are really ready to fire it, as well as put in the time to know it inside and out, in most instances it would not be needed, a quick clap or yell would send it running and that goes for a fox as well. The fisher cat is a different story depending on the size of the dog and a small bat would not be my weapon of choice against a fisher, but again a gun is a very large commitment and in a residential or urban environment would not be recommended.

jrc · 09-01-2009, 03:20 PM

Pepper spray

NoBozo · 09-01-2009, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by jrc

Pepper spray

I remember a few years ago.......being an Old Coot, and on a pension, who knows How Many freakin years ago it was ...they just fly by.

Anywho: There was this young "Outdoorsy" couple who were "Living with the Grizzlys" in Alaska. It was very "Inspiring". They were "Bonding" with nature and whatnot.....

They were attacked and Ate Up by their friends.... the Grizzlys. Totally Sad.

Lesson: Don't try to snuggle up to a Bear. NB

ApS · 09-02-2009, 04:01 AM

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Originally Posted by NoRegrets

"...Should I upgrade to a hand gun...?"

An interview disclosed the following opinion:

White Rook · 09-02-2009, 04:11 PM

Hi Bill,

Having known both you and sue for the last 15+ years, I can just imagine the look on Sue's face when she saw the bear. it must have been priceless.

Hope to see both of you around this weekend.

Stevie

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Originally Posted by Water Camper

Black Bear, weighing approx. 400 pounds, seen in our driveway this morning about 9:00 just north of the Paugus Bay Sports place, Weirs Boulevard. VERY BIG! Ambled around, headed to neighbors property, down their driveway toward the Boulevard probably looking for food (trash day). He/she ate all the apples put out for deer in our upper grove. Not feeding deer anymore!

Water Camper · 09-02-2009, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by White Rook

Hi Bill,

Having known both you and sue for the last 15+ years, I can just imagine the look on Sue's face when she saw the bear. it must have been priceless.

Hope to see both of you around this weekend.

Stevie

Stevie, just sent you a PM. Hope you can make it this weekend.

Water Camper · 08-31-2009, 01:14 PM

I think I might know where the bear that had been frequenting the Weirs went to, our place. We are just north of the Paugus Bay Sports Center.

Around 9:00 AM this morning Sue starting squaking about something being in our front yard. She gets excited when deer and turkey come into our yard, which isn't that unusual, so naturally I took my time checking things out.

A good size bear, I'm guessing 400 lbs or more, is walking down our driveway and into our neighbors yard. He was visible for about 10 minutes, then wandered off.

Sue says she's not going to feed the deer anymore apples, I think I know who was really eating them!

Where will he go next ??

Thanks,
Bill

Argie's Wife · 10-10-2009, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Doral350

Does anyone know what happened to the black bear that was running around the channel on Sunday afternoon?

I heard it say something about heading to The Bob House, as it was heading out of town....

Yosemite Sam · 10-10-2009, 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Argie's Wife

I heard it say something about heading to The Bob House, as it was heading out of town....

OH NO!! After that beautiful Bear chased me off he went to the Bob House and got "SHOT".

That is really sad!

08-31-2009, 10:11 AM	#1
Doral350 Junior Member Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 1 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Black Bear near the Weirs Channel Does anyone know what happened to the black bear that was running around the channel on Sunday afternoon?

08-31-2009, 04:17 PM	#3
Water Camper Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Pembroke, NH / Laconia, NH Posts: 451 Thanks: 10 Thanked 207 Times in 89 Posts	Bear Went South for Awhile Black Bear, weighing approx. 400 pounds, seen in our driveway this morning about 9:00 just north of the Paugus Bay Sports place, Weirs Boulevard. VERY BIG! Ambled around, headed to neighbors property, down their driveway toward the Boulevard probably looking for food (trash day). He/she ate all the apples put out for deer in our upper grove. Not feeding deer anymore!

08-31-2009, 06:23 PM	#4
webmaster Moderator Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 2,455 Blog Entries: 1 Thanks: 459 Thanked 3,830 Times in 840 Posts	A local businessman sent me this picture. Look on the roof: Attached Images

08-31-2009, 06:32 PM	#5
Water Camper Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Pembroke, NH / Laconia, NH Posts: 451 Thanks: 10 Thanked 207 Times in 89 Posts	Where is this? Hi Don. Where is this business? .... couldn't make out the sign. If bear are climbing on buildings, I'm staying INSIDE! Sue

08-31-2009, 06:34 PM	#6
NHskier Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 291 Thanks: 44 Thanked 36 Times in 33 Posts	This looks to be the real estate office right next to the old Handy Landing convenience store. Right by the jet ski rental place. Not far from the channel bridge!! __________________ NHskier

08-31-2009, 10:40 AM	#2
dpg Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 2,597 Thanks: 153 Thanked 229 Times in 166 Posts	He was bull !@#$. He was looking for Waldos and didn't know they had moved. Sorry, obviously I do not.

08-31-2009, 06:47 PM	#7
webmaster Moderator Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 2,455 Blog Entries: 1 Thanks: 459 Thanked 3,830 Times in 840 Posts	It's just across from the old Waldo Peppers (for now the Chao Pra Ya Thai & Sushi).

08-31-2009, 07:03 PM	#8
robmac Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Nashua,Meredith Posts: 951 Thanks: 213 Thanked 106 Times in 81 Posts	Thanks Don,very cool pic.

09-01-2009, 06:41 AM	#9
dpg Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 2,597 Thanks: 153 Thanked 229 Times in 166 Posts	Is this a real picture, I mean the bear that is? How the heck could he get on the roof. Maybe from the tree in the picture however the branches do not look like they would hold him.

09-02-2009, 12:34 PM	#13
BGB2 Member Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 28 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Bear on Vacation Authenticity I received the picture from a friend. I asked him if the picture was real. He told me that to the best of his knowledge it is real i.e. not altered. The location of the picture is unknown to me. If the bear was wearing a football helmet, I'd guess that it was a Chicago Bear or University of Maine Bear and the picture was altered.

10-09-2009, 10:21 PM	#15
fatlazyless Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 8,757 Blog Entries: 1 Thanks: 300 Thanked 1,012 Times in 737 Posts	In thinking about the recent necessary but unfortunate death of the huge bear by the Fish & Game Dept, it certainly seems like the available easy trash can food at the Waterville Valley Town Square is the problem. Fish & Game promotes their "A fed bear is a dead bear" safety program and suggests for home owners to bring in their outdoor bird feeders. And, the Town of Waterville Valley requires that every one of the numerous, like maybe 100 different dumpsters in town, be bear proof. Bear proof means they have locks or latches which strongly deter bears when people remember to use them. Over at the Town Square, there's aproximately four or five different 32 gallon trash deposit cans, made of rubbermaid plastic, and the bears quickly learn to tip them over and dig through the trash for left over food.The bears show up very regularly each night. The area is basically an outdoor food court with about five different food businesses that sell take -out pizza, ice cream, sandwiches, buritos, and chocolate to the xc skiers, bicyclers, hockey players, kayakers, swimmers, and vacationers. Knowing that "a fed bear is a dead bear" and that the unsecure large plastic trash deposit style trash cans have been in place for ten plus years, then what is the basis for the problem here........is it the the trash cans or the bears? Seems like they need to figure out some bear proof trash litter cans, just as the Town has required bear proof dumpsters. As bears will always be bears, and easy to get discarded pizza, buritos, chocolate, ice crean and sandwiches will add up to more bears needing to be destroyed by Fish & Game. Now, building a trash-litter deposit can that is bear proof is probably not an easy thing to do, as the bear proof dumpsters are built of very sturdy welded steel and the trash cans are built of trash can plastic. So, what's a bear to do? ... www.watervillevalley.org __________________ ... down and out, liv'n that Walmart side of the lake!

10-10-2009, 06:36 PM	#17
Yosemite Sam Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Lakes Region Posts: 395 Thanks: 81 Thanked 95 Times in 56 Posts	I tried to take a picture of the Bear on the roof and Papa Bear didn't like it to well!

09-01-2009, 12:28 PM	#19
SIKSUKR Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 5,075 Thanks: 215 Thanked 903 Times in 509 Posts	Looks like he just finished eating in that dumpster. __________________ SIKSUKR

09-01-2009, 01:10 PM	#20
NoRegrets Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Hudson - NH Posts: 408 Thanks: 233 Thanked 212 Times in 88 Posts	What would you do if confronted by a bear? We are not hunters but I wonder what the suggested action would be if someone encountered a bear like in these pictures? What if a child was nearby or on the balcony and thought it was a big dog? I haven't heard of a encounter in this area yet but there have been maulings in New Jersy and Tennessee within the past few years. I have foxes and fisher cats travel through my yard at different times of the year. I also bring my little dog out at night on a leash and carry a small bat. Should I upgrade to a hand gun? Any suggestions?

09-01-2009, 02:30 PM	#22
jmen24 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 1,139 Thanks: 223 Thanked 319 Times in 181 Posts	Spray would cover it. It would be best not to think about a child thinking that bear was a big dog in the confined space of a balcony or dumpster, but out in the open it would probably just take off. Most Black bears want as little to do with you as you do them, but they are a powerful animal that will defend themselves if THEY feel its needed. Upgrading to a gun carries a lot of weight and should not be taken lightly, unless you are really ready to fire it, as well as put in the time to know it inside and out, in most instances it would not be needed, a quick clap or yell would send it running and that goes for a fox as well. The fisher cat is a different story depending on the size of the dog and a small bat would not be my weapon of choice against a fisher, but again a gun is a very large commitment and in a residential or urban environment would not be recommended.

09-01-2009, 03:20 PM	#23
jrc Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: NH Posts: 2,689 Thanks: 33 Thanked 439 Times in 249 Posts	Pepper spray Attached Images

08-31-2009, 01:14 PM	#28
Water Camper Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Pembroke, NH / Laconia, NH Posts: 451 Thanks: 10 Thanked 207 Times in 89 Posts	Black Bear on Weirs Boulevard I think I might know where the bear that had been frequenting the Weirs went to, our place. We are just north of the Paugus Bay Sports Center. Around 9:00 AM this morning Sue starting squaking about something being in our front yard. She gets excited when deer and turkey come into our yard, which isn't that unusual, so naturally I took my time checking things out. A good size bear, I'm guessing 400 lbs or more, is walking down our driveway and into our neighbors yard. He was visible for about 10 minutes, then wandered off. Sue says she's not going to feed the deer anymore apples, I think I know who was really eating them! Where will he go next ?? Thanks, Bill