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Old 02-06-2009, 04:18 PM   #1
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Thumbs down Why Boycott SKELLEYS ?????

Saw a sign in the snow next to Skelleys saying "BOYCOTT SKELLEYS" anyone know why??? Is it because he raised his gas prices last weekend by 12 cents then went back down on Monday after the snowmobilers went home? Or is it because he yells at his customers??? To bad it's the only place in town!
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Old 02-07-2009, 06:58 AM   #2
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This is the beauty of the free market economy, if you feel you have been mistreated you can go elsewhere. Skelley's is not the only place in town, you can drive another 2 miles and go to Hometown Grocery and Mobil.
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This is the beauty of the free market economy, if you feel you have been mistreated you can go elsewhere. Skelley's is not the only place in town, you can drive another 2 miles and go to Hometown Grocery and Mobil.
He is the only place on that side of town now. The pumps at Hometown are shut off, NO GASS. IT's either Murphy's or Full oopps ROB's for Gas in Moultonboro. Not saying he is taking advantage of the snowmobilers but everyone coming over the Castle knows he is the closest spot for GAS(FOOD & PORTA JOHN).We get a lot of Grooming complaints about the trail that dead ends at Skeely's. But when you count over 200 sleds an hour using that trial on a busy Saturday there is no way to keep up with it.
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So what does that have to do with why people want to Boycott Skelleys???
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Wild, maybe I misread your original post, but the way I read it you already knew why the sign was there and were looking for comments. Sorry if I misunderstood.
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Well, I have gotten my gas almost exclusively at Skelly's, until he went 13 cents higher than Center Harbor. But they are back down now and if you pay cash it is/was $1.80. so I am back to buying my subs and gas there.
People don't always realize that they lose good customers by taking advantage of a different (snowmobiles) situation. He could have left them up for the fishing derby weekend but he didn't. So kudos to them. I did think it strange that they went so high because they are usually way cheaper than Wolfeboro. Oh well. It is still a great place and I have never been yelled at in there and most of the time I have been treated very well and quite politely by the staff there. Besides their ice ream is awesome!
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Wow! I cannot believe you would boycott Skelley's, or maybe you forgot in October when gas prices were soaring and Skelley's Market was 30 cents and more, CHEAPER than anyone else in town...and for miles! In todays news oil prices are on the rise again! I do not believe it has to do with "snowmobilers" or weekenders, sounds like a personal grudge, and I have to agree..The very best icecream!!!!
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I believe the original post was a question asking why the sign was in the snowbank asking people to boycott. Don't see any personal grudge by wildwind to me. Not everyday one drives by and sees a sign asking people to boycott a store. Sounded like a curiosity question to me with a couple of possibilities as to why.
Wondered the same thing as I drove by on Friday.
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I drive by everyday, and have not seen such a sign? And you must admit....the place looks so much cleaner and brighter than it did 6 years ago! The parking lot sure helps with so much traffic on 109. Still think it must be a personal thing!
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I would like to know if anyone who has posted on this thread has ever been yelled at by anyone at Skelleys. I haven't,the hundred's of people he has donated to hasn't.The many people he let's sign a slip because they forgot their wallet hasn't. People should get their facts straight, before they go off on something they don't have a clue about. Skelleys is a gem of a country store!!
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I have stopped in for gas with the snowmobile and never had an issue.

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I would like to know if anyone who has posted on this thread has ever been yelled at by anyone at Skelleys. I haven't,the hundred's of people he has donated to hasn't.The many people he let's sign a slip because they forgot their wallet hasn't. People should get their facts straight, before they go off on something they don't have a clue about. Skelleys is a gem of a country store!!
BJAM, That is why I asked the question earlier in the thread. The question, as asked, is loaded or at the very least is leading. As you can see on the great places thread- it is one of my favorites.

I have never been yelled at or seen him do so- quite honestly, I don't see him much. He's got great people working there, that's what shows.

The only time a gas station should change prices is when they get a new delivery in the ground. Nothing else should effect their price that would cause anything but a minor adjustment. So the stations that do less business off season will be slower to change prices. With snowmobiling being very busy over the past few weeks I am sure Skelley's is selling more high test than usual, so the price will fluctuate more often. They really do not care how much gas costs per gallon- the service station owner is trying to make $XX per gallon, not a percentage of price. I think that is what you have seen at Skelley's- natural price fluctuations based on new deliveries.

Of course, gas stations are a business-and can choose to charge what they want. I can vote with my feet and do. When the oil prices were rocketing skyward in the spring and summer last year, I took note of those that changed their prices daily or even every few hours. Shockingly (not) those same stations were the slowest to lower prices as prices plummeted. Guess what- the only time I stop at one of them is to pick up enough to get me to another station to fill up (I feel like a teenager all over- $5 diesel on pump 2 please)
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The only time a gas station should change prices is when they get a new delivery in the ground. Nothing else should effect their price that would cause anything but a minor adjustment. So the stations that do less business off season will be slower to change prices. With snowmobiling being very busy over the past few weeks I am sure Skelley's is selling more high test than usual, so the price will fluctuate more often. They really do not care how much gas costs per gallon- the service station owner is trying to make $XX per gallon, not a percentage of price. I think that is what you have seen at Skelley's- natural price fluctuations based on new deliveries.
I started to write a reply to this thread yesterday stating the ignorance of the posters about the petroleum industry. Sounds like to me, you have no clue about the gasoline business. Your view is purely from a consumer's side and have no business voicing how a owner/operator should run the site, let alone this particular gas station/convenience store. Stick with what you know.
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I've never been yelled at or heard any yelling when in the store.
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I started to write a reply to this thread yesterday stating the ignorance of the posters about the petroleum industry. Sounds like to me, you have no clue about the gasoline business. Your view is purely from a consumer's side and have no business voicing how a owner/operator should run the site, let alone this particular gas station/convenience store. Stick with what you know.
I think the question started about a boycott, not if anyone was gas price savy or had an opinion about gas prices(which everyone has a right to have one).
I have never gotten a bad attitude from Skelley's but then again I only go there maybe a dozen times a year...don't get to the "other" side too often just in the summer ,on the bike.
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I started to write a reply to this thread yesterday stating the ignorance of the posters about the petroleum industry. Sounds like to me, you have no clue about the gasoline business. Your view is purely from a consumer's side and have no business voicing how a owner/operator should run the site, let alone this particular gas station/convenience store. Stick with what you know.
OK why don't you inform us and dazzle us with your expertise on this subject matter. Explain to me what other variables cause an Owner/Operator or Owner/Dealer to increase or decrease their prices legitimately from one day to the next.

While you are at it tell me where I told Skelley's how to run his business.

Finally, understand I responded in this somewhat antagonistic manner based on your post. I look forward to your response.
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OK why don't you inform us and dazzle us with your expertise on this subject matter. Explain to me what other variables cause an Owner/Operator or Owner/Dealer to increase or decrease their prices legitimately from one day to the next.

While you are at it tell me where I told Skelley's how to run his business.
You're kidding right? "The only time a gas station should change prices is when they get a new delivery in the ground." That was not telling a business person how to operate his/her business? That remark sounded like you wanted Congress to pass a law. Anyone can communicate a poor thought and maybe this was yours. The rest of your thoughts were legitimate comments as a consumer, but I wasn't writing an editorial. Your statement rubbed me the wrong way because many many posts from others, instruct business owners how to run their businesses without any training or experience in that field. They are not all the same.

I don't have the time to explain decades of knowledge to you in a mere paragraph or two, but.....

To elaborate on just a few cases where prices may change;

* There was an invoice error from any number of sources (Oil Companies as you know them, Jobbers, Independents)
* Human error (owner,operator,employee)
* Supply and demand is the most basic and is the concept that is most misunderstood. This is the target of your statement. The demand is up at one particular time and so a business person may alter the price to compensate, BECAUSE at other times the price is pushed lower than cost due to lower demand and competition. You win some, you lose some. This is at the risk of infuriating the ignorant consumers and casting their business elsewhere.
* And the biggest.....change in revenue generators. Gasoline is only one of many products a convenience store offers to the consumer; food, services, lottery and the list goes on and on. The price for fuels can be used for many purposes. Cash flow, profit, enticement or incentive, and necessity. Revenue sources are ever changing in the convenience store business.

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You're kidding right? "The only time a gas station should change prices is when they get a new delivery in the ground." That was not telling a business person how to operate his/her business? That remark sounded like you wanted Congress to pass a law. Anyone can communicate a poor thought and maybe this was yours. The rest of your thoughts were legitimate comments as a consumer, but I wasn't writing an editorial. Your statement rubbed me the wrong way because many many posts from others, instruct business owners how to run their businesses without any training or experience in that field. They are not all the same.

I don't have the time to explain decades of knowledge to you in a mere paragraph or two, but.....

To elaborate on just a few cases where prices may change;

* There was an invoice error from any number of sources (Oil Companies as you know them, Jobbers, Independents)
* Human error (owner,operator,employee)
* Supply and demand is the most basic and is the concept that is most misunderstood. This is the target of your statement. The demand is up at one particular time and so a business person may alter the price to compensate, BECAUSE at other times the price is pushed lower than cost due to lower demand and competition. You win some, you lose some. This is at the risk of infuriating the ignorant consumers and casting their business elsewhere.
* And the biggest.....change in revenue generators. Gasoline is only one of many products a convenience store offers to the consumer; food, services, lottery and the list goes on and on. The price for fuels can be used for many purposes. Cash flow, profit, enticement or incentive, and necessity. Revenue sources are ever changing in the convenience store business.

Looks like some chemicals might have seeped inside the hazmat suit here.
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Bottom line is Skelley's raised the gas prices on Friday and lowered them back down on Monday. Seems pretty straight forward on the motive and probably nothing to do with any gas delivery. Unfortunately, by doing this, regular loyal customers that keep him in business during the slow months also pay the price.
This may have led to the boycott sign but it seems like we may never know as no one seems to have the answer to the original question on why a "Boycott Skelley's" sign was out front of Skelley's last Friday.
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I did not "see" any sign in front of Skelleys, was there really one? Should we put one up in front of Blue Canoe? or Robs? How bout the Center Harbor Irving?
They all seem to go up and down?? I can honestly say this, when it Dads, prices were exorbitant on all grocery items and gas. Perhaps we forgot that? I for one have not forgotten, and if, when I am off to work, I notice one gas station is cheaper that is the one I will choose. But, if I want icecream or pizza, I will go to Skelleys.
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I usually try to gas up on Thursdays because I've noticed lots of stations (both NH and MA) seem to raise their prices on Friday.
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For what it's worth, yes there really was a sign asking people to boycott Skelleys. I, as well as others saw it. If you ask the owners son who seems to run the business, he will confirm the sign existed, as he was taking the sign down as I drove by. It was in the snowbank across the street.
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Did it dawn on anyone that maybe the Boycott had nothing to do with the gas prices??? Ask the owners SON how many people were turned away and had to go somewhere else because he wouldn't come out of the back room to write a fishing license. The girl in charge wasn't working at the time and he was too busy AGAIN! Yes he was in the back room and that was from one of his employees!
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Did it dawn on anyone that maybe the Boycott had nothing to do with the gas prices??? Ask the owners SON how many people were turned away and had to go somewhere else because he wouldn't come out of the back room to write a fishing license. The girl in charge wasn't working at the time and he was too busy AGAIN! Yes he was in the back room and that was from one of his employees!
So in your original post you were trolling and I even apologized. You are obviously just trying to raise a stink with your leading questions and now days later you start adding fuel to the fire.

So I will reiterate- vote with your feet. I like Skelley's and will continue to shop there.
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For what it's worth, yes there really was a sign asking people to boycott Skelleys. I, as well as others saw it. If you ask the owners son who seems to run the business, he will confirm the sign existed, as he was taking the sign down as I drove by. It was in the snowbank across the street.
i'm not quite sure who you're talking about because no one seems to know anything about taking this supposed sign down. and again i say, the owner's son is not working at the store! so i'm a little confused as to who this mysterious person is. i don't think you are quite straight on who's who at Skelley's Market!
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Gas pricing aside..seems to me like there was only one person with boycott in mind, we've really heard nothing but good things about the place
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"...The only time a gas station should change prices is when they get a new delivery in the ground. Nothing else should effect their price that would cause anything but a minor adjustment..."
If the owner was facing the worst possible circumstance—empty tanks—bumping the prices would make sense until the next delivery.
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Wow! I cannot believe you would boycott Skelley's, or maybe you forgot in October when gas prices were soaring and Skelley's Market was 30 cents and more, CHEAPER than anyone else in town...and for miles! In todays news oil prices are on the rise again! I do not believe it has to do with "snowmobilers" or weekenders, sounds like a personal grudge, and I have to agree..The very best icecream!!!!
Gas prices manage to go up and down all over the country, doesn't seem like gas is the real issue here.
So I have to agree with Iron

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Skelly's is a great little operation. It brings a lot of conveniences to the people on that side of Moultonborough. If you don't like prices, people, etc... then don't go there. Asking for a boycott or even commenting on such is irresponsible and childish.
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Skelly's is a great little operation. It brings a lot of conveniences to the people on that side of Moultonborough. If you don't like prices, people, etc... then don't go there. Asking for a boycott or even commenting on such is irresponsible and childish.
Come now. Simply to "comment" on a boycott is not "irresponsible and childish". Quite the opposite. Most of us would ask around if we saw a sign calling for a boycott of a local business, regardless of whether we agreed with it or not. I honestly don't know why the OP's curiosity brought down a rain of vitriol.
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The person who thought that gas stations should only change prices if their deliveries came in at a different price obviously doesn't understand how business works. Gas prices, and for that matter prices in general, do not always have a direct correlation with what the seller pays for a product. The retailer will usually try, within reason, to get the most that they can for a product.

If the gas stations in the area were selling gas for $4.00 a gallon and you paid $2.00 a gallon for your gasoline, would you sell it for $2.15 because you only wanted to make 15 cents a gallon? Probably not.

The number one criteria for pricing is competition and determining what the market will bear. Don't you think that Lowes has shoppers looking at Home Depot to see what they are charging for similar items. Don't you think that the reason Shaws prices aren't any higher is because Hannaford's is such a viable and cheaper alternative?
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The person who thought that gas stations should only change prices if their deliveries came in at a different price obviously doesn't understand how business works. Gas prices, and for that matter prices in general, do not always have a direct correlation with what the seller pays for a product. The retailer will usually try, within reason, to get the most that they can for a product.

If the gas stations in the area were selling gas for $4.00 a gallon and you paid $2.00 a gallon for your gasoline, would you sell it for $2.15 because you only wanted to make 15 cents a gallon? Probably not.

The number one criteria for pricing is competition and determining what the market will bear. Don't you think that Lowes has shoppers looking at Home Depot to see what they are charging for similar items. Don't you think that the reason Shaws prices aren't any higher is because Hannaford's is such a viable and cheaper alternative?
I let the comments earlier go by that stated I don't understand the business- frankly, I grew up on the floor of my uncle's gas station (Grant's Shell Braintree Mass- Owner/Dealer now a company store after he retired). I turned wrenches and helped him on the business side- I decided at a relatively young age to get out of the business but think I understand it a tiny bit.

There is an important distinction here-SKELLEY'S IS NOT A GAS STATION. Skelley's is a great country store that has a couple of gas pumps out front as a convenience to their customers (and obviously he would like to make $$ as well), as opposed to a gas station with a convenience store (Like Irving/Mobil/ at 104). Totally different business model in my opinion. As an independent Skelley's needs to keep his prices in line as best as he can with the big boys- sometimes he can and sometimes he can't.

Someone can put boycott signs up wherever they want- I think the point of the vitriol that has been spewed is that it is not fair to the owner to merely put a sign that says "Boycott Skelley's". A little more detail would have been nice.
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Come now. Simply to "comment" on a boycott is not "irresponsible and childish". Quite the opposite. Most of us would ask around if we saw a sign calling for a boycott of a local business, regardless of whether we agreed with it or not. I honestly don't know why the OP's curiosity brought down a rain of vitriol.
Mr. Bear - If what was said was a simple comment than I would not have extended such a direct opinion on the subject. Rather, I would have given my opinion casually as you describe. But, my take of wildwind's posts were a bit more suspect or should I say they seemed to seek support of a personal feeling. This is a tough time for many, including small businesses like Skelley's. Comments that suggest such harsh results in this environment are irresponsible. If someone has feelings such as wildwinds, than they can go somewhere else. There is no need to drum up support in a negative way. Lastly, though my post was direct, I believe the use of vitriol was a bit excessive. But, I do want to thank you for the word use. See Kids - pay attention, you can learn something in the most precarious situations.
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Mr. Bear - If what was said was a simple comment than I would not have extended such a direct opinion on the subject. Rather, I would have given my opinion casually as you describe. But, my take of wildwind's posts were a bit more suspect or should I say they seemed to seek support of a personal feeling. This is a tough time for many, including small businesses like Skelley's. Comments that suggest such harsh results in this environment are irresponsible. If someone has feelings such as wildwinds, than they can go somewhere else. There is no need to drum up support in a negative way. Lastly, though my post was direct, I believe the use of vitriol was a bit excessive. But, I do want to thank you for the word use. See Kids - pay attention, you can learn something in the most precarious situations.
The "vitriol" did not describe your post alone - several others treated the subject as if he was encouraging us to boycott the store, and that to do so was worse than insulting our grandmothers. While subsequent comments indicated that he may have been sympathetic to a boycott, nothing I noticed suggested that he had anything to do with the sign. He was curious.

As to the "irresponsibility", are you suggesting that the rest of us can't make up our own minds? That we will all be swayed, by his idle curiosity and subsequent repetition of rumors, into boycotting a business with which we have had no problems? I should hope we are not all so childish.
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Old 02-24-2009, 12:10 AM   #35
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The "vitriol" did not describe your post alone - several others treated the subject as if he was encouraging us to boycott the store, and that to do so was worse than insulting our grandmothers. While subsequent comments indicated that he may have been sympathetic to a boycott, nothing I noticed suggested that he had anything to do with the sign. He was curious.

As to the "irresponsibility", are you suggesting that the rest of us can't make up our own minds? That we will all be swayed, by his idle curiosity and subsequent repetition of rumors, into boycotting a business with which we have had no problems? I should hope we are not all so childish.
Thank you for the clarification on your word use.

You are correct almighty Yoda. I apologize for making the jump that wildwind was the boycotter. I guess my curiosity killed the cat (or should I say the bear).

On a serious note, my comments were not intended to insinuate that people can't make up their own minds or that they will be swayed. Rather, I wanted to comment on what I felt was a negative post and show support for Skellys. I believe that we share similar feelings. That being said, I am boycotting this conversation. :-)
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Never been to Skelleys, but here is how our free country works:

A business has every right to (in almost all cases) price their product however they like. If you don't like the price of their product, you are free to go elsewhere for the same product. And if you don't like the way you are being treated at a business, you are free to take your money elsewhere. This is called direct competition, and is an element of the capitalist country we all know and love.

At least you guys aren't facing a potential 19 cent gas tax hike!
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Never been to Skelleys, but here is how our free country works:

A business has every right to (in almost all cases) price their product however they like. If you don't like the price of their product, you are free to go elsewhere for the same product. And if you don't like the way you are being treated at a business, you are free to take your money elsewhere. This is called direct competition, and is an element of the capitalist country we all know and love.

At least you guys aren't facing a potential 19 cent gas tax hike!
No, we are looking at a 13¢ hike spread out between now and 2013.
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I wouldn't start playing the "our taxes are higher" game with a Massachusetts resident!
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I started to write a reply to this thread yesterday stating the ignorance of the posters about the petroleum industry. Sounds like to me, you have no clue about the gasoline business. Your view is purely from a consumer's side and have no business voicing how a owner/operator should run the site, let alone this particular gas station/convenience store. Stick with what you know.

Last I checked this wasn't a forum of petroleum industry insiders. We're all consumers, we come with consumers opinions which we should feel free to share. I don't know who pissed in your Wheaties, but that response was uncalled for.
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Geez lets all just chill...I don't see anything so "un-called-for" guess I have thicker skin than most.
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Saw a sign in the snow next to Skelleys ....anyone know why....
Seems nobody knows why.


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..The only time a gas station should change prices is when they get a new delivery in the ground. ..
I used to think that too until I found out the big oil companies can remotely watch every pump at a station in real time and change the dealers cost between customers. Don't seem fair but they do. Every gallon of that delivery may have a different cost to the dealer. Most are not nonprofit dealers .... intentionally.
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i happen to know an awful lot about the owner and crew of Skelley's and am proud to be part of thier business. Chip and his dad are two of the most generous people i have come to know. Chip is constantly donating to almost every girl scout, boy scout, or church pantry that comes calling. he values employees, perhaps that is why his crew stays with him for years. in this type of business this is rare. If you really think he makes any money on gas think again, if any of us knew what was involved in selling gas we would wonder why even bother. Keep up the great job!!
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