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02-23-2012, 09:38 PM | #1 |
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2012 Fuel Costs
So with everyone watching and waiting for Ice Out plus gas prices skyrocketing daily. $4.19 in MA was seen by Broadhopper and I saw $3.72 in Sanford ME today. What are people thinking prices at the lake will be this summer? Will you limit your boating, less cruising, drop anchor and stay in one place more, not use the boat at all or what? I know I am thinking there could be some limits on my boating especially since I have a 60 gallon tank and a 5.7 V8.
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I think the money people have invested in their boats / dock space or (taxes if you own waterfront) throwing 20 or 30 more bucks into the tank to do something they enjoy and look forward to all winter is not going to change the out come of the short boating season we have. Lets face it most of our boats cost more than our cars we drive. thats just my feeling
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I agree 100%, we are not going to change our plans of coming to the lake every weekend.
We will probably eat less steak tips from the butcher instead. Last year we started the season 4/23 with a full tank of gas in our 22' Monterey, I made it to July 3rd before we gased up again. I have a smaller boat with a 25 hp outboard, it got alot more use for running errands to and from the island and with portable tanks, the gas is cheaper at the land pumps. |
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If the predicted prices of $5 per gallon by Memorial Day come to fruition, that will bring this perceived economic recovery to it's knees. I don't care who you are, $5 gas will definitley get you thinking and changing your habits.
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We only get to spend a certain amount of time on the Lake. So I am not about to let the boat sit tied up to the dock during the limited amount of time I get to spend there... Like B.I.S said maybe cut down a little on the trips to the Butcher. Who I am I kiding that wont happen either. I guess I better start saving my cans now....
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Gas prices
Considering all the other costs associated with boat ownership....payments, maintenance, winter storage, slip costs, insurance, etc....the overall difference in cost to run it for your normal number of hours is pretty small, even at a buck or a buck and a half more per gallon for gas. Figure yours out, you'll be surprised, then get out on the water!!
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Higher gas prices could lead to more money problems which then contributes to more suicides. If I remember correct, Moultonborough had six suicides in 2006, when the local economy was pretty strong, so maybe 5-dollar gas will become a suicide price.
Just picture this down at the local Irving: "Oh my gawd, these high gas prices are just too much, and I cannot take it anymore..................ka-bang!"
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You`re right Blue Thunder. Took the words right out of my mouth!!! Screw the middle east. CUT OFF THEIR AID,,,,,,,TO ALL OFF THEM!!!!! They are have been fighting among each other for a thousand years. Lets get out of there!!!
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02-24-2012, 07:28 AM | #13 |
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Rafting rules
If gas prices spike again, it is time to revisit the issue of rafting. Too many new no-rafting areas have been designated in the past decade, squeezing those who wish to anchor for the day into fewer locations. It has come to the point that even if you are boating alone - not trying to raft with friends - there are just too many boats in your favorite coves to anchor legally. One way to address the problem would be to retroactively change the no-rafting designation to a permit process. If the permit was good for 5 or 10 years, it would force a renewal process to retain the special privilege. The number of no-rafting areas is out of control and we need a way to regain weekend access rights to some of the best parts of the lake - so boat owners can save gas.
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not just boat gas
You figure with all the extra money spent on fuel commuting to work and around town then the extra fuel cost to get to the lake. It all adds up to a lot more than you think. Ya 20-30 more for your boat but add that to how much more your spending weekly just to run your car and you could be talking hundreds a more each month.
That will hurt anyone. I have noticed less and less people passing us on our trek to Maine. In fact with my cruise set to 65 I was amazed at how many people we passed.
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What?have you seen the prices?
Forget about even rafting!
It will be too expensive to even get on the lake! It is a sad forecast...... It will be all we can do to get to the lake let alone be on it with these prices...... |
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As my wife pointed out
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Not that any of the alternatives look a whole lot better.
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And we can look forward to Ethanol-15...
Coming, soon, to a station near you!
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I agree with Blue Thunder, $5/gallon will lead to drastic changes on the lake. A few years ago when it was $4/gal there was less boat activity. But realistically, if it gets that high I agree, the recovery comes to a screatching halt. It won't stay there that long anyway. Obama couldn't afford that for his re-election bid.
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Does anyone remember what year it was when gas cost $1.80 a gallon??
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historical prices are online
Here's a chart that shows the historical average price of gas http://gasbuddy.com/gb_retail_price_chart.aspx. Click on the 6 year view once there. It was the rise over $4 that helped trigger the recession in June 2008 - and prices were about what they are today till the end of summer. Boat traffic was way down that year. Prices fell to 1.61 by December 2008 as the financial panic caught steam and then quickly returned to the mid $2's and went above $3 in early 2011.
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What is wrong with this country? Politicians! ALL of them.
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How easy we fall into the trap
It's so easy for us to just say, "well it's only another this or that much more." So for example, at $3.69 a gallon, I did the math, my 110 mile daily commute costs me 16.91 a day. At $4, that grows to 18.33 only $1.42 more a day or $25.56 a month (18 days of commuting).
What's another $26 a month... I can handle it... and then next month it's another 20 something, and the next month it's another 20 something. then all of a sudden we wonder where all the money's going since things are starting to feel a bit tight. What about the not wanting to give up riding around in the boat, or the snowmobile, or the ATV, or the motorcycle, or scooter, or whatever. But then there's the lawn mower, leaf blower, snowblower, weed whacker, etc. How do you suppose it's so easy for a whole lot of nothing to happen to stop the gouging? We accept it. What else are we going to do? |
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stay tuned for the pols to start talking about investigating price gouging.happens every time we get near $4.00/gal. never seem to find out the results of thier investigation however.
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So there are many pricing pressures and equations setting the price of gas. The closing of refineries by epa forced costly upgrades, commodities gaming, media hype, etc. The commodities modernization act of 2000 allowed speculation buying on energy by anyone for the first time since 1907 (my opinion the worst crime done to us by our elected officials in the past 40 years).
I wonder what the flooding of dollars (QE1 and QE2) has done to devalue our currency. Gold, Copper, and most commodities have gone to record levels so shouldn't oil have done the same? Since we printed hundreds of billions of dollars should anyone that owns commodities take less valuable dollars in trade? I think the high gas price was a calculated trade off by our current elected administration. Print out dollars, spread the money to states, unions, bailouts, cash for clunkers, jobs and the stimulus plan and brace for the payback. We will be on the boat as much as ever but not happy about the extra cost because I believe the current inflation (or devaluation of the dollar) was a very stupid move by Mr. Obama's cabinet leaders and czars (treasury and energy). |
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Maybe I'm having an FLL moment here, but if algae is indeed the answer maybe we can scoop up CyanoBacteria blooms this summer and put them in our tanks to run our boats.
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put all the gas toys away, replace the gas mower with the hand mower, the snow blower with the snow shovel, the ATV with a single speed fat tire bike, and the boat, put oars on it and row row row your boat. You will feel better in the morning. (especially if your rowing that cigerette boat and trying to keep it under 45 mph. |
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Can We Get Back On Topic
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I agree. We don't want to get reported, do we, just when we're trying to be civil?
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My apologies to Just Sold..... for getting
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Maybe we need the Great Uniter himself to step in here.
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Let's have a beer summit!!!!
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Who cares about the boat gas!
It just cost me $100 to fill the truck. With gas prices still on the rise it will be interresting to see how busy it is Memorial day weekend around the lakes region.
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My guess is now it will not.... Boating and traveling to the lakes region is going to be a expensive proposition this summer.... I expect high usage as normal for the Memorial day, Labor day weekends, but I think the rest of the summer is not going to be.
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Last time fuel peaked during boating season, I thought I noticed bigger crowds on holiday weekends and a big drop-off on regular summer weekends. I think people focus what little money they have and make an extra big day out of holidays then just scrimp the rest of the summer.
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The only reason I didn't mention the 4th of July in my post is that it is in the middle of the week.... I think this year I will be glad I also have a jetski..... 10 gallons of gas for the Jet Ski = fun all weekend long... 10 gallons of gas in the boat = one short boatride, and maybe a quick tubing run with the kids....
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Today's prices
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Just depends on your use model.... Having water front property, I don't take the Jetski out and ride around all day.... If I take two or 3 adventures a day, I use 4 or 5 gallons..... its all relative to exactly what you are doing... Because I have also gone out on the Jet ski, exploring, and use 2/3 of my 15 gallon take in an afternoon....
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Does anyone know the local Lake marina gas prices?
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