Bizer Chart Version

jeffk · 04-15-2016, 05:18 PM

I just picked up a "new" version of Bizer's map, the laminated type. Maybe I am blind but I have not found a version number on the map. I got thinking that Marinas and other locations might have old stock and not the most recent. I'm not overly concerned, more curious. I doubt the map I picked up is very outdated.

If there is no version on the chart, why not?

NoBozo · 04-15-2016, 07:46 PM

I have noticed this myself in the past. Keep in mind: None of the islands or hazards have moved since the last edition. The buoys are "probably" going to remain in the same position..more or less.

In the past, I have ambled by every "Mark" that I deem important to me....(I pick the lighted ones) and entered it into my GPS as a waypoint. After that... if the "Mark" moves..it doesn't matter, you have the TRUE position of where the mark Should Be. NB

jeffk · 04-15-2016, 08:17 PM

I generally agree with you and as I said, I'm not overly concerned. But they do move, remove, and add buoys from time to time.

I like your suggestion of visiting important spots and placing your own electronic buoy.

pjard · 04-15-2016, 08:44 PM

Upper right, within the map itself. It is there, it's vertical....again upper right and not in the legend, on the map.

jeffk · 04-15-2016, 09:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pjard

Upper right, within the map itself. It is there, it's vertical....again upper right and not in the legend, on the map.

Yes indeed. 11th edition Jan 30, 2016

THANKS!

Bizer · 04-16-2016, 10:22 AM

As mentioned, the edition number, along with the corrected-thru date, appear about two inches (50mm) to the left of the big "Z" in the upper right. On 05-APR-16, Bizer replaced charts at marinas around the lake. Any chart purchased after that date should be 2016.

Are there changes, yes. Are there major changes, not really. A new shallow are was found in an out-of-the-way place. A buoy that magically appeared in 2003 disappeared in 2013. It was only 50 feet from Stonedam Island and not much navigational significance. Another out-of-the-way buoy that disappeared in 2002 was replaced sometime within the past 3 years. Marinas come and go. Buoys move, sometimes noticeably. Significant changes are listed on Bizer's web page.

Technically, Bizer's 11th edition could already be updated. Anchor Marine is no longer at Weirs, but Bizer was not aware of this at the time of printing. The exact location of the NO-RAFTING area northeast of Tuftonboro Neck is still in dispute.

SIKSUKR · 04-19-2016, 06:32 AM

Hi Bizer. Just received my new Bizer but am wondering about the edition number. I have a 6th edition and cant find an edition number in the same place as the 6th. I know this is the 11th but it is printed on it somewhere to refer to in the future when I forget?

upthesaukee · 04-19-2016, 07:50 AM

Pjard has disclosed the location in Post 4

Phantom · 04-19-2016, 07:53 AM

and Bizer in post #6 (first sentence)

Phantom passes SIKSUKR his glasses (or takes SIKSUKR's glass of wine away)

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SIKSUKR · 04-20-2016, 09:36 AM

Jeesh! What a dope. Thanks.

04-15-2016, 05:18 PM	#1
jeffk Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Center Harbor Posts: 1,172 Thanks: 206 Thanked 437 Times in 253 Posts	Bizer Chart Version I just picked up a "new" version of Bizer's map, the laminated type. Maybe I am blind but I have not found a version number on the map. I got thinking that Marinas and other locations might have old stock and not the most recent. I'm not overly concerned, more curious. I doubt the map I picked up is very outdated. If there is no version on the chart, why not?

04-19-2016, 06:32 AM	#7
SIKSUKR Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 5,075 Thanks: 215 Thanked 903 Times in 509 Posts	Hi Bizer. Just received my new Bizer but am wondering about the edition number. I have a 6th edition and cant find an edition number in the same place as the 6th. I know this is the 11th but it is printed on it somewhere to refer to in the future when I forget? __________________ SIKSUKR

04-19-2016, 07:50 AM	#8
upthesaukee Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Alton Bay Posts: 5,600 Blog Entries: 2 Thanks: 2,463 Thanked 1,983 Times in 1,083 Posts	See post 4 Pjard has disclosed the location in Post 4 __________________ I Live Here... I am always UPTHESAUKEE !!!!

04-19-2016, 07:53 AM	#9
Phantom Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Berlin, Ma / Gilford Posts: 1,934 Thanks: 450 Thanked 605 Times in 341 Posts	and Bizer in post #6 (first sentence) Phantom passes SIKSUKR his glasses (or takes SIKSUKR's glass of wine away) . __________________ *A bad day on the Big Lake (although I've never had one) - Still beats a day at the office!!*

04-20-2016, 09:36 AM	#10
SIKSUKR Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 5,075 Thanks: 215 Thanked 903 Times in 509 Posts	Jeesh! What a dope. Thanks. __________________ SIKSUKR

04-15-2016, 07:46 PM	#2
NoBozo Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Portsmouth. RI Posts: 2,231 Thanks: 400 Thanked 460 Times in 308 Posts	I have noticed this myself in the past. Keep in mind: None of the islands or hazards have moved since the last edition. The buoys are "probably" going to remain in the same position..more or less. In the past, I have ambled by every "Mark" that I deem important to me....(I pick the lighted ones) and entered it into my GPS as a waypoint. After that... if the "Mark" moves..it doesn't matter, you have the TRUE position of where the mark Should Be. NB

04-15-2016, 08:17 PM	#3
jeffk Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Center Harbor Posts: 1,172 Thanks: 206 Thanked 437 Times in 253 Posts	I generally agree with you and as I said, I'm not overly concerned. But they do move, remove, and add buoys from time to time. I like your suggestion of visiting important spots and placing your own electronic buoy.

04-15-2016, 08:44 PM	#4
pjard Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Gilford, NH Posts: 636 Thanks: 494 Thanked 194 Times in 101 Posts	Upper right, within the map itself. It is there, it's vertical....again upper right and not in the legend, on the map.

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04-16-2016, 10:22 AM	#6
Bizer Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 336 Thanks: 0 Thanked 243 Times in 82 Posts	As mentioned, the edition number, along with the corrected-thru date, appear about two inches (50mm) to the left of the big "Z" in the upper right. On 05-APR-16, Bizer replaced charts at marinas around the lake. Any chart purchased after that date should be 2016. Are there changes, yes. Are there major changes, not really. A new shallow are was found in an out-of-the-way place. A buoy that magically appeared in 2003 disappeared in 2013. It was only 50 feet from Stonedam Island and not much navigational significance. Another out-of-the-way buoy that disappeared in 2002 was replaced sometime within the past 3 years. Marinas come and go. Buoys move, sometimes noticeably. Significant changes are listed on Bizer's web page. Technically, Bizer's 11th edition could already be updated. Anchor Marine is no longer at Weirs, but Bizer was not aware of this at the time of printing. The exact location of the NO-RAFTING area northeast of Tuftonboro Neck is still in dispute.

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