Lighter boat traffic this year?

Lakegeezer · 07-08-2006, 09:25 PM

The boat traffic seems light this year, as if the gas prices is making a difference. Is it that way all over the lake? Of the traffic we see, there seem to be a disproportionate number of waverunners and small boats, which are more fuel efficient.

Par Four · 07-09-2006, 05:52 AM

Not sure if it's the gas prices, could be the weather too, but I'd agreed that the level of boat traffic sure seems less than I might have expected over the past week or two.

Rayhunt · 07-09-2006, 08:08 AM

For sure its been light ..Although the ratio of knowledgable to not-so knowledgable boaters is still about the same

LIforrelaxin · 07-10-2006, 09:25 AM

I am on the North side of long island facing Moultonborough Neck, and the traffic is much lighter.......usually the bay is a mess on the weekends but this year....I am actually venturing out in the middle of the day.......

jimbob1603 · 07-10-2006, 04:39 PM

I think boat traffic is light ..... perhaps due to expensive gas or poor weather/water levels. In general, I think this is showing to be a challanging tourist season, economically speaking.

Mee-n-Mac · 07-11-2006, 05:14 PM

I agree, we just got back from a week at the cabin and definitely noticed less boat traffic over the 4'th than usual. Wonder if the business owners are noticing the same thing ?

Cal · 07-11-2006, 05:50 PM

The greedy folks causing the high cost of energy and making huge profits don't really care. They have found we will pay what we have to pay to get the gas. Unfortuately other services and products will suffer , be it recreational travel or an extra dinner out. I'm afraid if it continues long enough (and it will) , it will cause major problems in our economy , as in major reccession. Boy , I hope I'm wrong

Kevin C · 07-11-2006, 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Cal

I'm afraid if it continues long enough (and it will) , it will cause major problems in our economy , as in major reccession. Boy , I hope I'm wrong

Cal....I'm afraid that you are on target. A recession will most likely be right around the corner.

Mee-n-Mac · 07-11-2006, 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Cal

The greedy folks causing the high cost of energy and making huge profits don't really care. They have found we will pay what we have to pay to get the gas. Unfortuately other services and products will suffer , be it recreational travel or an extra dinner out. I'm afraid if it continues long enough (and it will) , it will cause major problems in our economy , as in major reccession. Boy , I hope I'm wrong

Hey we all still buying the stuff so let's not forget the demand end of supply and demand. While there's some hurt now I'd say it is/was inevitable because as more people (think China, India) demand the same product the price will rise. The silver lining is that as energy (gas included) prices rise alternatives get to be cost competitive. Just looking at oil/gas ... "new" oil gets found and old hard-to-get oil gets to be worth the expense to retrieve. Things like TDP get to be economically viable as well. The real trick it too use oil/gas for those things, and only those things, that it's practically suited for (at this time) and use "other stuff" for our other energy needs. While I think some form of economic downturn is possible (perhaps even likely), I don't see it as long lasting. Prices will stabilize at or near the present values in the not too distant future and people will adapt. Some of that adaptation will be as you say and some will be to waste less so as to be able to go out (on the boat or for a dinner). Me, I'm thinking it's time to home brew rather than buy that inferior beer ! That alone could fuel our boat for the summer.

Kevin C · 07-11-2006, 11:12 PM

It's just that oil is the common denominator in our economy. Not just what we use in our personal cars, boats, etc but it's used in production all over the U.S. We heavily rely on plastics (to use just one example) to make virtually everything we consume. Plastics are petroleum based. When the cost of oil / fuel skyrockets that cost is passed along to the consumers by way of higher prices to produce and transport those goods to market and inflation starts. Hope recession is held at bay, but I'm nervous about the economy.

ApS · 07-12-2006, 04:21 AM

Seems to be a trend: In 2004, the weather was to blame for the low boat density. In 2005, it was the price of gasoline.

While the worst gas-guzzlers are everywhere, it seems that the number of tiny sailboats these past two weekends have greatly increased. Encouraged, I've started a fiberglass repair that's kept my Sunfish on shore.

The class of boat that appears down in numbers is in the middle: pontoon boats and bow riders. The number of skiers and tubers may be down some as a result, but the water is warming up.

I'd say it's too early in the season to call this a permanent trend, but that's what I'm seeing from this shore.

fpartri497 · 07-12-2006, 06:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Mee-n-Mac

I agree, we just got back from a week at the cabin and definitely noticed less boat traffic over the 4'th than usual. Wonder if the business owners are noticing the same thing ?

I agree ME! I, for the first time in many a year ventured out on to the lake on the 4-th of july and found very little traffic once out of the bay. (alton) I have not been brave enough to try that in years.

fatlazyless · 07-12-2006, 06:35 PM

Apparently, there's been less new boat sales this year too, on a nation wide basis. Am not sure if this is for the same reason the Winni appears to have less boat traffic. Brunswick Corp, the country's biggest boat maker with names like Sea Ray, Boston Whaler, Baja, Lund, and MerCruiser had its' stock sink to a two year low price today. Hey, maybe this is a good time to be buying that 52' Baja on a 99 year financing deal. Hellooooo local Baja dealer!

Weekend Pundit · 07-13-2006, 04:42 PM

It seems to me the traffic is lighter than previous years. About the only time I noticed 'normal' traffic on a weekend was the last weekend of June. Sunday noon traffic was as I remembered it. But that was only one day, so it can't be used as an indicator.

I have to agree that gas prices probably have something to do with it. I know I'm glad that my boat doesn't use nearly as much gas as many of the larger and faster boats. It's interesting to be envied by those with more expensive and powerful boats rather than the other way around.

itchin for fishin · 07-13-2006, 08:04 PM

OK, I'm betting y'all jinxed us and this weekend will be a madhouse. Connect with ya on Monday to see the amount of traffic with predicted nice weekend and hot temps.

Airwaves · 07-13-2006, 08:11 PM

Beyond fuel prices and the weather, my greatest concern is the Ethanol content of the gasoline and what it will do to my boat's engine.

I "control" two boats, a 90 Cobalt and and 86 Crestliner. One is an I/O the other an outboard.

The outboard I know has an inboard aluminum gasoline tank, but I don't know what the Cobalt's gasoline tank is made from.

I am reluctant to put her (Cobalt) into the water until I know. The O/B well, it's just been a bad summer so far.

Yep, weather has been bad, prices have been bad, but I really am concerned about damage to my engine(s)!

07-08-2006, 09:25 PM	#1
Lakegeezer Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Moultonboro, NH Posts: 1,678 Blog Entries: 1 Thanks: 354 Thanked 639 Times in 290 Posts	Lighter boat traffic this year? The boat traffic seems light this year, as if the gas prices is making a difference. Is it that way all over the lake? Of the traffic we see, there seem to be a disproportionate number of waverunners and small boats, which are more fuel efficient. __________________ -lg

07-09-2006, 08:08 AM	#3
Rayhunt Senior Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Gilford NH Posts: 112 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Traffic For sure its been light ..Although the ratio of knowledgable to not-so knowledgable boaters is still about the same

07-10-2006, 09:25 AM	#4
LIforrelaxin Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Texas, Lake Ray Hubbard and NH, Long Island Winnipesaukee Posts: 2,871 Thanks: 1,037 Thanked 892 Times in 524 Posts	Lighter Traffic for sure I am on the North side of long island facing Moultonborough Neck, and the traffic is much lighter.......usually the bay is a mess on the weekends but this year....I am actually venturing out in the middle of the day....... __________________ Life is about how much time you can spend relaxing... I do it on an island that isn't really an island.....

07-10-2006, 04:39 PM	#5
jimbob1603 Senior Member Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 71 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Where is everybody? I think boat traffic is light ..... perhaps due to expensive gas or poor weather/water levels. In general, I think this is showing to be a challanging tourist season, economically speaking.

07-11-2006, 05:14 PM	#6
Mee-n-Mac Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 1,943 Thanks: 23 Thanked 111 Times in 51 Posts	Less boats, more vacancies I agree, we just got back from a week at the cabin and definitely noticed less boat traffic over the 4'th than usual. Wonder if the business owners are noticing the same thing ? __________________ Mee'n'Mac "Never attribute to malice that which can be explained by simple stupidity or ignorance. The latter are a lot more common than the former." - RAH

07-09-2006, 05:52 AM	#2
Par Four Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Central MA Posts: 77 Thanks: 23 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Not sure if it's the gas prices, could be the weather too, but I'd agreed that the level of boat traffic sure seems less than I might have expected over the past week or two.

07-11-2006, 05:50 PM	#7
Cal Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Pitman , NJ Posts: 627 Thanks: 40 Thanked 21 Times in 12 Posts	The greedy folks causing the high cost of energy and making huge profits don't really care. They have found we will pay what we have to pay to get the gas. Unfortuately other services and products will suffer , be it recreational travel or an extra dinner out. I'm afraid if it continues long enough (and it will) , it will cause major problems in our economy , as in major reccession. Boy , I hope I'm wrong

07-11-2006, 11:12 PM	#10
Kevin C Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Billerica, Ma Posts: 103 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	It's just that oil is the common denominator in our economy. Not just what we use in our personal cars, boats, etc but it's used in production all over the U.S. We heavily rely on plastics (to use just one example) to make virtually everything we consume. Plastics are petroleum based. When the cost of oil / fuel skyrockets that cost is passed along to the consumers by way of higher prices to produce and transport those goods to market and inflation starts. Hope recession is held at bay, but I'm nervous about the economy. __________________ Skipper of CIRCUITOUS Before you criticize someone, you should walk a mile in their shoes. That way when you criticize them, you're a mile away and you have their shoes. Author Unknown.

07-12-2006, 04:21 AM	#11
ApS Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Florida (Sebring & Keys), Wolfeboro Posts: 5,938 Thanks: 2,205 Thanked 776 Times in 553 Posts	Seems to be a trend: In 2004, the weather was to blame for the low boat density. In 2005, it was the price of gasoline. While the worst gas-guzzlers are everywhere, it seems that the number of tiny sailboats these past two weekends have greatly increased. Encouraged, I've started a fiberglass repair that's kept my Sunfish on shore. The class of boat that appears down in numbers is in the middle: pontoon boats and bow riders. The number of skiers and tubers may be down some as a result, but the water is warming up. I'd say it's too early in the season to call this a permanent trend, but that's what I'm seeing from this shore. __________________ Is it "Common Sense" isn't.

07-12-2006, 06:35 PM	#13
fatlazyless Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 8,752 Blog Entries: 1 Thanks: 300 Thanked 1,010 Times in 736 Posts	...time for a Baja! Apparently, there's been less new boat sales this year too, on a nation wide basis. Am not sure if this is for the same reason the Winni appears to have less boat traffic. Brunswick Corp, the country's biggest boat maker with names like Sea Ray, Boston Whaler, Baja, Lund, and MerCruiser had its' stock sink to a two year low price today. Hey, maybe this is a good time to be buying that 52' Baja on a 99 year financing deal. Hellooooo local Baja dealer!

07-13-2006, 04:42 PM	#14
Weekend Pundit Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Gilford Posts: 347 Thanks: 26 Thanked 69 Times in 42 Posts	It seems to me the traffic is lighter than previous years. About the only time I noticed 'normal' traffic on a weekend was the last weekend of June. Sunday noon traffic was as I remembered it. But that was only one day, so it can't be used as an indicator. I have to agree that gas prices probably have something to do with it. I know I'm glad that my boat doesn't use nearly as much gas as many of the larger and faster boats. It's interesting to be envied by those with more expensive and powerful boats rather than the other way around.

07-13-2006, 08:04 PM	#15
itchin for fishin Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 105 Thanks: 3 Thanked 2 Times in 1 Post	OK, I'm betting y'all jinxed us and this weekend will be a madhouse. Connect with ya on Monday to see the amount of traffic with predicted nice weekend and hot temps.

07-13-2006, 08:11 PM	#16
Airwaves Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: I'm right here! Posts: 1,153 Thanks: 9 Thanked 102 Times in 37 Posts	Beyond fuel prices and the weather, my greatest concern is the Ethanol content of the gasoline and what it will do to my boat's engine. I "control" two boats, a 90 Cobalt and and 86 Crestliner. One is an I/O the other an outboard. The outboard I know has an inboard aluminum gasoline tank, but I don't know what the Cobalt's gasoline tank is made from. I am reluctant to put her (Cobalt) into the water until I know. The O/B well, it's just been a bad summer so far. Yep, weather has been bad, prices have been bad, but I really am concerned about damage to my engine(s)!