New Meredith dock idea

Orion · 04-21-2009, 07:02 AM

I know there are a lot of docks at Meredith already, though often not enough. While driving by the new Hannafords it occurred to me that there's a lot of unused shoreline almost across the street from this store (adjacent to the "Indian" island). It would be great if there was a 1hr limit dock there for islanders or boaters wishing to shop at the store. It's a bit of a hike carrying groceries or pushing a cart (if even allowed) all the way around to the current docks. Just a seed of an idea and my 2 cents.

no-engine · 04-21-2009, 07:56 AM

Opposite bank: very shallow water for quite a ways out. Maybe encourage a property owner just out Pleasant Street, before the "yacht club", to take on project of very short term tie-ups..
FYI: It's a very long process to get permits for a new dock, let alone construction!

Suggestion: obtain a folding luggage 2-wheel cart. Some can carry up to 200+ pounds; I am not suggesting groceries weigh so much. My point is some are very rugged; look for wheels 6" diameter to navigate rough sidewalks, and the extension handle is long enough to be comfortable. Also, then there are folding containers, which look like milk crates but about 50% larger and sort of nest so they stack very well; originally made to temporarily hold manila file folders with the hanging rods. I have several, but they are now hard to find.

However, I've seen similar products in boating supply catalogs, for this very purpose!

Removing shopping carts is illegal; besides they do not take to rough terrain.

In an effort to not use plastic bags, carry several good shoulder bags for your purchases, sort of like the canvas utility boating bags but with the loops long enough to go on one's shoulder! Be a little creative! Available for minimal costs at lots of grocery stores are many style bags.

hazelnut · 04-21-2009, 09:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by no-engine

Opposite bank: very shallow water for quite a ways out. Maybe encourage a property owner just out Pleasant Street, before the "yacht club", to take on project of very short term tie-ups..
FYI: It's a very long process to get permits for a new dock, let alone construction!

Suggestion: obtain a folding luggage 2-wheel cart. Some can carry up to 200+ pounds; I am not suggesting groceries weigh so much. My point is some are very rugged; look for wheels 6" diameter to navigate rough sidewalks, and the extension handle is long enough to be comfortable. Also, then there are folding containers, which look like milk crates but about 50% larger and sort of nest so they stack very well; originally made to temporarily hold manila file folders with the hanging rods. I have several, but they are now hard to find.

However, I've seen similar products in boating supply catalogs, for this very purpose!

Removing shopping carts is illegal; besides they do not take to rough terrain.

In an effort to not use plastic bags, carry several good shoulder bags for your purchases, sort of like the canvas utility boating bags but with the loops long enough to go on one's shoulder! Be a little creative! Available for minimal costs at lots of grocery stores are many style bags.

OR go to Heath's

They at least let you take the carts across the street to the docks. I know the prices are a bit higher and the selection isn't as large but.... In a pinch it just works.

dpg · 04-21-2009, 10:36 AM

As a last resort you can always drive.

hazelnut · 04-21-2009, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by dpg

As a last resort you can always drive.

BLASPHEMY!

Sometimes it is nice to drive a car in the summer after being on the island for extended periods of time. I sometimes worry that I am going to forget how to drive a car.

Islander2 · 04-21-2009, 11:17 AM

Spent Friday, Sat. and Sunday on the island, and the store in 19 Mile Bay was not open, at all. Anyone have any word on when they are going to open up?

Gearhead · 04-21-2009, 11:54 AM

I suppose you could bring a wagon with you and stow it under the cart while you're shopping, or maybe chain it to the bike rack.

-or-

How about if there was a small fleet of wagons at the dock, and folks could rent 'em like they do at the airport. You could drop a couple of bucks and go shopping wherever you please. When you're done you bring it back to the same place. It might need a card swipe or lojack to keep track of them. It'd be nice if they floated too.

-or-

In the case of Alton Bay if you needed to get to Hannafords from the town docks and you didn't have wheels, perhaps a Hannafords van could pick you up and drop you off. You would pay for the ride to-and-fro at the store, just like another grocery. Not that they have such a thing now, but it's just an idea...

-or-

Call a taxi.

KonaChick · 04-21-2009, 01:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Orion

I know there are a lot of docks at Meredith already, though often not enough. While driving by the new Hannafords it occurred to me that there's a lot of unused shoreline almost across the street from this store (adjacent to the "Indian" island). It would be great if there was a 1hr limit dock there for islanders or boaters wishing to shop at the store. It's a bit of a hike carrying groceries or pushing a cart (if even allowed) all the way around to the current docks. Just a seed of an idea and my 2 cents.

While convenient for folks, I'd hate to see this happen. I love the unobstructed view when we round the corner at the lights. The view of Indian Island and the straight shot down the lake is breathtaking, let's not ruin it!

steadyon · 04-21-2009, 01:48 PM

I agree with Kona
"unused shoreline" isn't always a bad thing!
someone should start a lake delivery business

PennyPenny · 04-21-2009, 06:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Orion

I know there are a lot of docks at Meredith already, though often not enough. While driving by the new Hannafords it occurred to me that there's a lot of unused shoreline almost across the street from this store (adjacent to the "Indian" island). It would be great if there was a 1hr limit dock there for islanders or boaters wishing to shop at the store. It's a bit of a hike carrying groceries or pushing a cart (if even allowed) all the way around to the current docks. Just a seed of an idea and my 2 cents.

As someone else stated, it is very shallow there. Just get in your car and drive and fight the summer traffic as the rest of us have to. The indian island in Meredith Bay is one of only a few spots left that isn't "owned" by someone who is making money from shorline property intown Meredith. Gimme a break.

no-engine · 04-21-2009, 06:42 PM

Good replies here! As long as one must shop Meredith Hannaford, we need more creativity. I still like the idea of bags over the shoulder or folding luggage cart.

fatlazyless · 04-21-2009, 07:36 PM

There's a pretty good sized creek that very slowly flows from the large pond and wet lands behind Hannaford's and directly into Meredith Bay. It's a brief twp-minute portage across Route 25 and with a kayak, you could easily paddle right up to the back of Hannaford's.

Any chance of a complimentary rotisserie barbeque chicken for the first 10 kayakers who paddle right up to the deli counter?

Mink Islander · 04-21-2009, 07:58 PM

But how about this? Raise the issue with the Hannaford's. At the IGA in Wolfboro they ENCOURAGE you to take the carriages to the docks and just send a bag boy to retrieve them later. The terrain ain't that bad in Meredith. The distance is a bit further in Meredith but if you didn't have to return the carriage that would probably work. Maybe they'd be accomodating. Would you tip a kid to help schlep everything to the docks and then take the carriages back? It''d be interesting to see if the new Hannafords was willing to "think outside the box" to accomodate the unique nature of having a grocery store "on the lake".

As for the dock idea. Yeah it's pretty boney in there. Probably not a workable solution even if the owners/town/state were willing.... But hey, nice that you're thinking about creative solutions.

Lakesrider · 04-22-2009, 06:55 AM

Seeing as the lovely town of Merideth decided to let the hanafords build there they could hire a kid in the summer to run a shuttle service...
Or how about a rickshaw service...with a trunk....

hazelnut · 04-22-2009, 07:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mink Islander

But how about this? Raise the issue with the Hannaford's. At the IGA in Wolfboro they ENCOURAGE you to take the carriages to the docks and just send a bag boy to retrieve them later. The terrain ain't that bad in Meredith. The distance is a bit further in Meredith but if you didn't have to return the carriage that would probably work. Maybe they'd be accomodating. Would you tip a kid to help schlep everything to the docks and then take the carriages back? It''d be interesting to see if the new Hannafords was willing to "think outside the box" to accomodate the unique nature of having a grocery store "on the lake".

As for the dock idea. Yeah it's pretty boney in there. Probably not a workable solution even if the owners/town/state were willing.... But hey, nice that you're thinking about creative solutions.

Souped up grocery carts with pneumatic tires!!!!

meredith weekender · 04-22-2009, 08:26 AM

The luggage dolly powered the old fashioned way like Fred and Barney did seems the best way to me.

Mee-n-Mac · 04-22-2009, 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by meredith weekender

The luggage dolly powered the old fashioned way like Fred and Barney did seems the best way to me.

If they could add some pontoons ....

no-engine · 04-23-2009, 08:26 PM

Today, I suggested at customer service that they start by selling bags with good long straps for over the shoulder.

They should sell collapsible carts which have space for purchases.

I disagree with allowing the in-store carts being taken to Meredith docks; for one thing where to place them? Just anywhere is an eyesore, and a danger to pedestrians who walk the board walk path along the entire waterfront - Pleasant Street to Gazebo at Church Landing.

Why doesn't someone approach Chamber of Commerce, Main Street Program, and/or Town Select Board, along with Hannaford's store manager. Be aggressive and communicate these options. They all will need to be prepared for traffic/pedestrian congestion & its management.

Seeker · 04-23-2009, 09:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by no-engine

Today, I suggested at customer service that they start by selling bags with good long straps for over the shoulder.

They should sell collapsible carts which have space for purchases.

I disagree with allowing the in-store carts being taken to Meredith docks; for one thing where to place them? Just anywhere is an eyesore, and a danger to pedestrians who walk the board walk path along the entire waterfront - Pleasant Street to Gazebo at Church Landing.

Why doesn't someone approach Chamber of Commerce, Main Street Program, and/or Town Select Board, along with Hannaford's store manager. Be aggressive and communicate these options. They all will need to be prepared for traffic/pedestrian congestion & its management.

Sound like a project for FLL to me. (Between freebies of course)

AC2717 · 04-24-2009, 06:50 AM

A great job for a summer resident kid and his/her freinds to make some spending cash

If it were me I would be standing out front, with Hannaford's permission of course, and asking people if they would like thier bags carried to the dock, I would have my trusty cart with me and a bet for tips only the kids could make a killing!

no-engine · 04-24-2009, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by fatlazyless

...most Hannafords have a waiting bench out front, near the entrance, but not in Meredith? Why the H not?

Why not ask the store manager? Might get a response when he/she knows there is a necessity, and it should be under cover where the wagons are.

no-engine · 04-26-2009, 05:07 PM

House guest arrived with a folding bag with its two wheel cart.
Fits to needs perfect. 24" deep x 10x16. Removable from cart. 6" wheels.
No maker's name on the store's card! All I can find is Marshalls, $19.99.
Called Wheel Shopper. Make a google search.

Somewhat like this one: http://www.amazon.com/Roadrunner-Fol.../dp/B000QU4P7I

Orion · 04-27-2009, 08:11 AM

Nice cart idea for many applications, but when you're shopping for provisions for a guest weekend on the island, we're talking a full, full-sized store grocery cart. Guess we'll have to stick with Heath's.

Sunbeam lodge · 04-27-2009, 08:25 AM

[QUOTE=no-engine;93368]Today, I suggested at customer service that they start by selling bags with good long straps for over the shoulder.

They should sell collapsible carts which have space for purchases.

I disagree with allowing the in-store carts being taken to Meredith docks; for one thing where to place them? Just anywhere is an eyesore, and a danger to pedestrians who walk the board walk path along the entire waterfront - Pleasant Street to Gazebo at Church Landing.

I agree. Anytime you let grocery carts end up near the water they will be at the bottom of the lake at the town docks. Also, rethink the plan when you consider the traffic problem of people slow ing traffic to walk carts back and forth across route 25. Traffic is going to back to Center Harbor.

fatlazyless · 04-27-2009, 08:40 AM

The Etcetera Shop, located nearby on Route 25 between the Dunkin Donuts and Circle K-Irving Gas frequently has 2nd hand frame backpacks.

Backpacking 30-40 lbs of Hannaford groceries across the 400 yards of highly scenic, flat, paved, shoreline walking path to the boat is so easy that even my Basset Hound could do it, if I had a Basset Hound. Even if it takes two trips.....aaarrrroooooo

!

Dog's Ear · 04-27-2009, 09:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Islander2

Spent Friday, Sat. and Sunday on the island, and the store in 19 Mile Bay was not open, at all. Anyone have any word on when they are going to open up?

The store will open on May 15th.

no-engine · 04-27-2009, 01:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fatlazyless

The Etcetera Shop, located nearby on Route 25 between the Dunkin Donuts and Circle K-Irving Gas frequently has 2nd hand frame backpacks.

Backpacking 30-40 lbs of Hannaford groceries across the 400 yards of highly scenic, flat, paved, shoreline walking path to the boat is so easy that even my Basset Hound could do it, if I had a Basset Hound. Even if it takes two trips.....aaarrrroooooo

!

I have one in my basement, made by Kelty and must be vintage 70's.
It's not folding, has very rugged frame and waist belt, and I'd sell for first $15.00. I so want my basement emptied of formerly great items.
Does this forum allow PMs? I'll measure & post dimensions. I see ability to send a PM; if interested, do not hesitate, and I'd meet buyer in Hannaford's parking lot, over near the cinema!

wifi · 04-27-2009, 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by no-engine

...... if interested, do not hesitate, and I'd meet buyer in Hannaford's parking lot, over near the cinema!

Would you be willing to give a free demo too, and hike my groceries to the dock ?

no-engine · 04-27-2009, 05:40 PM

Good idea! Do you intend to buy? I'd have to walk back to my car! Demo with my groceries in it, walking one lap around my car! Makes me think: because it's not folding, store needs to have a temporary storage, so one can go shop, retrieve it, and go to the bagging area. THEN there is no waste of the plastic bags.

However, I do walk thru the store with my shoulder bag. I place my items in it and empty it at the register, provided I had not intended to buy too much to fit in bag!

04-21-2009, 07:02 AM	#1
Orion Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Cow Island Posts: 914 Thanks: 602 Thanked 193 Times in 91 Posts	New Meredith dock idea I know there are a lot of docks at Meredith already, though often not enough. While driving by the new Hannafords it occurred to me that there's a lot of unused shoreline almost across the street from this store (adjacent to the "Indian" island). It would be great if there was a 1hr limit dock there for islanders or boaters wishing to shop at the store. It's a bit of a hike carrying groceries or pushing a cart (if even allowed) all the way around to the current docks. Just a seed of an idea and my 2 cents.

04-21-2009, 11:17 AM	#6
Islander2 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 51 Thanks: 22 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Stores... Spent Friday, Sat. and Sunday on the island, and the store in 19 Mile Bay was not open, at all. Anyone have any word on when they are going to open up?

04-21-2009, 11:54 AM	#7
Gearhead Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Alton Posts: 166 Thanks: 13 Thanked 19 Times in 8 Posts	Radio Flyer I suppose you could bring a wagon with you and stow it under the cart while you're shopping, or maybe chain it to the bike rack. -or- How about if there was a small fleet of wagons at the dock, and folks could rent 'em like they do at the airport. You could drop a couple of bucks and go shopping wherever you please. When you're done you bring it back to the same place. It might need a card swipe or lojack to keep track of them. It'd be nice if they floated too. -or- In the case of Alton Bay if you needed to get to Hannafords from the town docks and you didn't have wheels, perhaps a Hannafords van could pick you up and drop you off. You would pay for the ride to-and-fro at the store, just like another grocery. Not that they have such a thing now, but it's just an idea... -or- Call a taxi.

04-21-2009, 07:36 PM	#12
fatlazyless Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 8,747 Blog Entries: 1 Thanks: 300 Thanked 1,007 Times in 735 Posts	There's a pretty good sized creek that very slowly flows from the large pond and wet lands behind Hannaford's and directly into Meredith Bay. It's a brief twp-minute portage across Route 25 and with a kayak, you could easily paddle right up to the back of Hannaford's. Any chance of a complimentary rotisserie barbeque chicken for the first 10 kayakers who paddle right up to the deli counter? __________________ ... down and out, liv'n that Walmart side of the lake! Last edited by fatlazyless; 04-22-2009 at 07:14 AM.

04-21-2009, 07:58 PM	#13
Mink Islander Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 753 Thanks: 59 Thanked 271 Times in 129 Posts	Shop by boat? Absolutely!! But how about this? Raise the issue with the Hannaford's. At the IGA in Wolfboro they ENCOURAGE you to take the carriages to the docks and just send a bag boy to retrieve them later. The terrain ain't that bad in Meredith. The distance is a bit further in Meredith but if you didn't have to return the carriage that would probably work. Maybe they'd be accomodating. Would you tip a kid to help schlep everything to the docks and then take the carriages back? It''d be interesting to see if the new Hannafords was willing to "think outside the box" to accomodate the unique nature of having a grocery store "on the lake". As for the dock idea. Yeah it's pretty boney in there. Probably not a workable solution even if the owners/town/state were willing.... But hey, nice that you're thinking about creative solutions.

04-21-2009, 07:56 AM	#2
no-engine Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: West side Winnipesaukee, Lakes Region Posts: 516 Thanks: 20 Thanked 52 Times in 40 Posts	Opposite bank: very shallow water for quite a ways out. Maybe encourage a property owner just out Pleasant Street, before the "yacht club", to take on project of very short term tie-ups.. FYI: It's a very long process to get permits for a new dock, let alone construction! Suggestion: obtain a folding luggage 2-wheel cart. Some can carry up to 200+ pounds; I am not suggesting groceries weigh so much. My point is some are very rugged; look for wheels 6" diameter to navigate rough sidewalks, and the extension handle is long enough to be comfortable. Also, then there are folding containers, which look like milk crates but about 50% larger and sort of nest so they stack very well; originally made to temporarily hold manila file folders with the hanging rods. I have several, but they are now hard to find. However, I've seen similar products in boating supply catalogs, for this very purpose! Removing shopping carts is illegal; besides they do not take to rough terrain. In an effort to not use plastic bags, carry several good shoulder bags for your purchases, sort of like the canvas utility boating bags but with the loops long enough to go on one's shoulder! Be a little creative! Available for minimal costs at lots of grocery stores are many style bags.

04-21-2009, 10:36 AM	#4
dpg Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 2,595 Thanks: 153 Thanked 229 Times in 166 Posts	As a last resort you can always drive.

04-21-2009, 01:48 PM	#9
steadyon Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Meredith Posts: 102 Thanks: 0 Thanked 7 Times in 6 Posts	I agree with Kona "unused shoreline" isn't always a bad thing! someone should start a lake delivery business

04-21-2009, 06:42 PM	#11
no-engine Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: West side Winnipesaukee, Lakes Region Posts: 516 Thanks: 20 Thanked 52 Times in 40 Posts	Good replies here! As long as one must shop Meredith Hannaford, we need more creativity. I still like the idea of bags over the shoulder or folding luggage cart.

04-22-2009, 06:55 AM	#14
Lakesrider Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 2,129 Thanks: 380 Thanked 1,016 Times in 345 Posts	Seeing as the lovely town of Merideth decided to let the hanafords build there they could hire a kid in the summer to run a shuttle service... Or how about a rickshaw service...with a trunk....

04-22-2009, 08:26 AM	#16
meredith weekender Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Meredith / Manchester Posts: 373 Thanks: 87 Thanked 84 Times in 57 Posts	The luggage dolly powered the old fashioned way like Fred and Barney did seems the best way to me.

04-23-2009, 08:26 PM	#18
no-engine Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: West side Winnipesaukee, Lakes Region Posts: 516 Thanks: 20 Thanked 52 Times in 40 Posts	Today, I suggested at customer service that they start by selling bags with good long straps for over the shoulder. They should sell collapsible carts which have space for purchases. I disagree with allowing the in-store carts being taken to Meredith docks; for one thing where to place them? Just anywhere is an eyesore, and a danger to pedestrians who walk the board walk path along the entire waterfront - Pleasant Street to Gazebo at Church Landing. Why doesn't someone approach Chamber of Commerce, Main Street Program, and/or Town Select Board, along with Hannaford's store manager. Be aggressive and communicate these options. They all will need to be prepared for traffic/pedestrian congestion & its management.

04-24-2009, 06:50 AM	#20
AC2717 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Maynard, MA & Paugus Bay Posts: 2,574 Thanks: 753 Thanked 354 Times in 266 Posts	THis sounds like A great job for a summer resident kid and his/her freinds to make some spending cash If it were me I would be standing out front, with Hannaford's permission of course, and asking people if they would like thier bags carried to the dock, I would have my trusty cart with me and a bet for tips only the kids could make a killing! __________________ Capt. of the "No Worries"

04-26-2009, 05:07 PM	#22
no-engine Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: West side Winnipesaukee, Lakes Region Posts: 516 Thanks: 20 Thanked 52 Times in 40 Posts	House guest arrived with a folding bag with its two wheel cart. Fits to needs perfect. 24" deep x 10x16. Removable from cart. 6" wheels. No maker's name on the store's card! All I can find is Marshalls, $19.99. Called Wheel Shopper. Make a google search. Somewhat like this one: http://www.amazon.com/Roadrunner-Fol.../dp/B000QU4P7I

04-27-2009, 08:11 AM	#23
Orion Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Cow Island Posts: 914 Thanks: 602 Thanked 193 Times in 91 Posts	nice, but a bit small Nice cart idea for many applications, but when you're shopping for provisions for a guest weekend on the island, we're talking a full, full-sized store grocery cart. Guess we'll have to stick with Heath's.

04-27-2009, 08:25 AM	#24
Sunbeam lodge Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Meredith/Naples Florida Posts: 367 Thanks: 135 Thanked 50 Times in 26 Posts	[QUOTE=no-engine;93368]Today, I suggested at customer service that they start by selling bags with good long straps for over the shoulder. They should sell collapsible carts which have space for purchases. I disagree with allowing the in-store carts being taken to Meredith docks; for one thing where to place them? Just anywhere is an eyesore, and a danger to pedestrians who walk the board walk path along the entire waterfront - Pleasant Street to Gazebo at Church Landing. I agree. Anytime you let grocery carts end up near the water they will be at the bottom of the lake at the town docks. Also, rethink the plan when you consider the traffic problem of people slow ing traffic to walk carts back and forth across route 25. Traffic is going to back to Center Harbor.

04-27-2009, 08:40 AM	#25
fatlazyless Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 8,747 Blog Entries: 1 Thanks: 300 Thanked 1,007 Times in 735 Posts	The Etcetera Shop, located nearby on Route 25 between the Dunkin Donuts and Circle K-Irving Gas frequently has 2nd hand frame backpacks. Backpacking 30-40 lbs of Hannaford groceries across the 400 yards of highly scenic, flat, paved, shoreline walking path to the boat is so easy that even my Basset Hound could do it, if I had a Basset Hound. Even if it takes two trips.....aaarrrroooooo! __________________ ... down and out, liv'n that Walmart side of the lake!

04-27-2009, 05:40 PM	#29
no-engine Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: West side Winnipesaukee, Lakes Region Posts: 516 Thanks: 20 Thanked 52 Times in 40 Posts	Good idea! Do you intend to buy? I'd have to walk back to my car! Demo with my groceries in it, walking one lap around my car! Makes me think: because it's not folding, store needs to have a temporary storage, so one can go shop, retrieve it, and go to the bagging area. THEN there is no waste of the plastic bags. However, I do walk thru the store with my shoulder bag. I place my items in it and empty it at the register, provided I had not intended to buy too much to fit in bag!