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Old 08-12-2021, 06:34 AM   #295
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Originally Posted by John Mercier View Post
He asked me what it was when government and business ally.
He knew what he was posturing about... just thought by not using the word that he inferences would not be understood.

By the way, Operation Warp Speed really did nothing.
The science could not be sped; and Pfizer... the first out... only got a pre-order should it produce an effective vaccine. It did not get funding prior.

So even without Operation Warp Speed, Pfizer would have produced the vaccine, met the EUA requirements (actually exceeded them by quite a bit) and sold the vaccine.
Without the pre-buy, it would have simple meant the US had to wait in a line ahead of others. But since the vaccine requires unique distribution... most other countries would not, and still cannot, effectively use the supply available.

Neither political party gets credit...

There was no ''long store'' of the vaccine. And an EUA is not that unique, they also did for the 2009 Swine Flu pandemic... though no vaccine was developed, some of the tech used for this one was.

As for the FDA under the last Administration, it also issued an EUA for HCQ, and had to later revoke that one.

The law change in 2013 made the difference on how many different items received EUA during this emergency.

Both parties took the time to realize in 2013 we needed a faster approach to a pandemic, and during this one... both parties - depending on which was sitting in power - have worked against getting the vaccines into arms.

Thanks to the scientists, not so much the politicians.
The year 2013 was pivotal: It was then that Dr. Fauci wrote that, "The risk of pandemic was worth it in order to fund 'Gain of Function' research". Back when I was in college ROTC, we would have called such research by a known enemy, Biological Warfare. Helping to fund it within a nation ('way over there') would be treasonous! But today is a different "woke"nation.

But we wouldn't have known about "the risk of pandemic" without the release of FOIA email exchanges between Dr. Fauci and his friends in D.C. swamp-bureaucracies. (Fortunately there weren't 30,000 of them).

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Originally Posted by Newbiesaukee View Post
I’m having some difficulty following the conversation.

The Tuskegee Airmen and the Tuskegee Experiment are totally different but are important for very different reasons. I’m not sure why this was brought up but the confusion is a paradigm for the communication issues that go way beyond the Forum.

Facts still matter.
Overlooking the emoticon?

"Tuskegee Airmen ( )" was to show from where the "communication issues" had originated.

I caught at least two forum members with my accurate quote! Proper Googling of the quote will assist in resolving your quandary.

"Tuskegee Airman" wasn't as much a trigger word as it was a "phrase-pun". Tuskegee Airmen referenced both WWII heroes and the wrongly-phrased assertion of someone we look to for the clear-headed thinking we demand from leadership.

Operation Warp Speed: Getting the facts straight on OWS...
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The media echoed general skepticism about OWS in the Spring of 2020. Vanity Fair in its May 28, 2020 edition characterized OWS "as dangerous and likely to fail." CNN complained that OWS neglected "tried and true" procedures for vaccine development in favor of new and untested methods. A New York Times article dated April 30, 2020 somberly states: "Our record for developing an entirely new vaccine is at least four years - more time than the public or the economy can tolerate social-distancing orders."
https://thehill.com/opinion/white-ho...warp-spGoogle?

Maybe the printed source should be "flagged" and "deplatformed" by Google?

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