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Old 11-19-2009, 09:44 PM   #645
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Is this your version of an apology? Give me a straightforward "I'm sorry" apology for accusing me of being a poacher and I will be very gracious and never mention it again
I never apologized, I simply said I made a mistake.
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I will be very gracious
Not likely.

Another question dodged by Elchase:
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Let me know when you have some statistics relevant to New Hampshire and Lake Winnipesaukee.
1) A statistically reliable randomly conducted telephone poll showed NH citizens favoring a 45/25 MPH speed limit outnumber NH citizens opposing a 45/25 speed limit by a 9 to 1 margin with a +/-3% margin of error. These are the people who elected our legislators and will be voting again next fall.
2) There were 0 (zero) accidents on Lake Winnipesaukee last summer that could even be alleged to have been high-speed related.
3) With a speed limit in place and the MP monitoring boat speeds last summer, only 1 (one) boat was caught exceeding 45 MPH.
How are those for statistics?
Pretty lame. That continues shows that speed limits were never needed in the first place since it reenforces the Marine Patrol's snapshot of the lake in 2007 that less that 1 percent of the boats clocked by radar were exceeding 45 mph!

Since you brought it up in the final year prior to speed limits taking effect there were 2 boating fatalities in New Hampshire, but in the first year of speed limits that number doubled!

Using Elchase logic that means speed limits are to blame for a doubling of fatalities in New Hampshire in 2009 since everything else remained the same even though the 2009 fatalities had nothing to do with a boat traveling at much beyond headway speed!

Now getting back to the post you've been ignoring:
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An MP boat and a police boat went out and fished their bodies aboard and drove them to shore. These boats were plenty large enough for the conditions on the lake that day, and the officers did not even need to get wet. If we did not have the SL in effect that day, I'd agree that going out to retrieve these bodies endangered the officers' lives, but only due to the dangers of getting run down and cut in half by a speeding cigarette boat. Since the SL was in effect that day, that risk was eliminated and these guys faced little more risk on the lake than had they stayed ashore
From this post it is OBVIOUS that YOU HAVE NEVER been part of a SAR (Search and rescue) operation! In every case there are dangers to the rescue boat and crew yet you try to dismiss it as if you are walking across the school yard and picking up a piece of paper.


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Originally posted by elchase in response to a comment hoping legislators are reading this:

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they are focusing on the sheer volume of crashes and deaths resulting from boats going too fast, losing control, and colliding into one another or into shore. While they had been told that high speed boating is safe and that deaths were a rarity...a fluke...they are seeing evidence that proves otherwise.
What "evidence" would that be? Certainly nothing you have presented from NH or Lake Winnipesaukee because the evidence pertaining to NH and Lake Winnipesaukee proves that speed was never a problem and is not a safety issue, however fear mongering certainly is a problem!
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