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fatlazyless · 10-05-2010, 02:04 PM

Taking a look at the nearby White Mountain National Forest, there's a number of ski areas that have been in existence for years by securing a special use permit from the owner of the land, the U.S. Dept of Agriculture and its sub-division, the U.S. Forest Sevice. Wildcat, Waterville Valley, Loon, Bretton Woods, Black & Attitash are either partially or totally located within the WMNF and are in operation via special use permits.

So, how is running a sailing school that targets local youth and charges low prices and building it on a NH state beach any different than operating a ski area on federal forest land?

That 200-yard, or so, long natural beach area in front of the concrete retainer wall, that's in front of the rv campground and toilet/shower building is a very attractive waterfront area, but it certainly seems that a local sailing school and a motorboat launch ramp & accompanying set-up dock would be an improved additional use. The neighboring Lake Shore Park already has their own beach, and it's not like the Lake Shore Park is losing its' next door vacant & untouched and underused rv beach. They, like everyone else in the area, will be gaining two new lake access points; a sailing center and a boat launch w/ a dock that's good for fishermen and trailer-boaters.

I might be wrong on this, but while the state ramps on Winnisquam, Squam, and Newfound are all no-charge, the ramp at Ellacoya could be a fee ramp because it is located in a state beach area. The ramp at Newfound is located within Whitemore Point State Beach and Natural Area, and that one is free, so that contradicts this line of thought........duh?

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Just about everything in the swimming side of Ellacoya like the bathroom sinks, toilets, doors, tile walls, outdoor sliding slides, park fixtures all look like they were new in about 1965 and have been kept running and working and in use and MAINTAINED ever since, since 1965. So, a big HAT's OFF to the Ellacoya maintenance crew because it all looks like they manage to keep everything in there working forever!

10-05-2010, 02:04 PM	#56
fatlazyless Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 8,527 Blog Entries: 1 Thanks: 296 Thanked 957 Times in 698 Posts	Taking a look at the nearby White Mountain National Forest, there's a number of ski areas that have been in existence for years by securing a special use permit from the owner of the land, the U.S. Dept of Agriculture and its sub-division, the U.S. Forest Sevice. Wildcat, Waterville Valley, Loon, Bretton Woods, Black & Attitash are either partially or totally located within the WMNF and are in operation via special use permits. So, how is running a sailing school that targets local youth and charges low prices and building it on a NH state beach any different than operating a ski area on federal forest land? That 200-yard, or so, long natural beach area in front of the concrete retainer wall, that's in front of the rv campground and toilet/shower building is a very attractive waterfront area, but it certainly seems that a local sailing school and a motorboat launch ramp & accompanying set-up dock would be an improved additional use. The neighboring Lake Shore Park already has their own beach, and it's not like the Lake Shore Park is losing its' next door vacant & untouched and underused rv beach. They, like everyone else in the area, will be gaining two new lake access points; a sailing center and a boat launch w/ a dock that's good for fishermen and trailer-boaters. I might be wrong on this, but while the state ramps on Winnisquam, Squam, and Newfound are all no-charge, the ramp at Ellacoya could be a fee ramp because it is located in a state beach area. The ramp at Newfound is located within Whitemore Point State Beach and Natural Area, and that one is free, so that contradicts this line of thought........duh? ....... Just about everything in the swimming side of Ellacoya like the bathroom sinks, toilets, doors, tile walls, outdoor sliding slides, park fixtures all look like they were new in about 1965 and have been kept running and working and in use and MAINTAINED ever since, since 1965. So, a big HAT's OFF to the Ellacoya maintenance crew because it all looks like they manage to keep everything in there working forever! __________________ ... down and out, liv'n that Walmart side of the lake! Last edited by fatlazyless; 10-05-2010 at 05:55 PM.