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Originally Posted by Lakegeezer

"...Have we seen the offical accident report...?"

Because of the $2000 threshold for a NHMP report—and no injury—why would this require a report to the NHMP? Failing that—and that the CG has no jurisdiction on Winnipesaukee—will it even appear in Coast Guard statistics?

''The Coast Guard estimates that only about 10 percent of the boating accidents that occur are actually reported,'' Mr. Potter said. He said many accidents are not reported when boaters are not insured."

Originally Posted by shooter

Actually I Compare it to people who drive 40mph in the high speed lane on RT 93, Its just not the proper place to be driving 40 when everyone else is going 70, its just plain common sense.

Interstate analogies again....

How are the salmon fishermen, fishermen at anchor, kayaks, tubers, floating debris, anchored swimmers, anchored picnickers, and the occasional errant swim float to be accounted for in any Interstate example?

Originally Posted by shooter

"...yes there is always a danger, mabey the kayak should stay out of open areas where speeding boats will be..."

I previously noted here that a week before July 4th weekend, I saw a canoe, with a kayak in tow—transporting a solitary toddler—in open water.

Not exactly a jaywalker strolling out between parked SUVs, was she?

Originally Posted by chipj29

"...And I am sure the kayakers were not drinking..."

It's not right to "project" a view of a non-participant into this incident. We don't know that to be FACT.

Originally Posted by chmeeee

"...Perhaps if they were not drunk, naked, and without a light, it wouldn't have happened...?"

...and...

Originally Posted by WeirsBeachBoater

The kayak was empty when struck if you remember right. Because the Nude Kayaker had bailed out so he wouldn't be seen. May it please the court, I would remind everyone this happened AT NIGHT WITH NO LIGHTS!!!! So please don't go there!

...and...

Originally Posted by Bear Islander

"...The kayaker is a lucky idiot, we can all agree on that..."

What is being taken for FACT...has only appeared at this forum.

The news article states, "...the kayak had no lights...".

A kayak does not need "lights". A single 360° hand-held light is sufficient. Did the reporter expect to find the "missing lights" in an overturned and abandoned kayak with several feet of its bow missing?

SIKSUKR's account (DUI, naked, no lights) was 3rd-hand; plus, we don't have any corroborating evidence from the press. The "NH Bass Foundation Nation" account (if there was one) could be parroting what appears anywhere on the Internet!

Originally Posted by codeman671

"...What happened to the kayaker maintaining a proper watch? Clearly they were intoxicated, clearly they did not have lights, clearly they were naked, and clearly they failed to maintain a proper lookout. Basically 4 laws broken. There is NO REASON that the kayaker should not have had plenty of time to react between the sound of the boat and the incoming lights. Lucky idiot is an understatement...they hit a unmanned, unlit kayak that sits low in the water in the dark...."

Unless there is some public document floating around, we don't "clearly know" any of that. Do we "clearly know" of a single citation being issued?

Originally Posted by chipj29

"...Spin it all you want/can. The person in the kayak was operating illegally, with no lights..."

At some point after this after-dark encounter, there were one or two swimmers in the water. A swimmer anywhere on the lake after dark—and needing rescue—cannot be expected to have lights.

If "kayaks can't be seen", I will agree with Mee&Mac and Evenstar that a strobe should be allowed for after-dark kayaking.

(Even one that does not meet the on-ON criterion. And yes, we should protect the fool at our own "expense").

(Some PFDs have strobe lights.)

Originally Posted by codeman671

"...clearly they were naked..."

Originally Posted by chmeeee

"...if they were not drunk, naked, and without a light, it wouldn't have happened...?"

Originally Posted by WeirsBeachBoater

"...the Nude Kayaker had bailed out

Originally Posted by Woodsy

"...he was nude..."

Originally Posted by Lakegeezer

"...drunk and nude...not get caught nude..."

Originally Posted by EricP

"...in Fish Cove kayaking naked..."

Originally Posted by EricP

"...drinking and nude...?"

Originally Posted by codeman671

"...Maybe nekkid kayaking should be allowed..."

Originally Posted by chipj29

"...is a canoe, with 2 naked people in it..."

Originally Posted by Airwaves

"...he didn't want to be seen naked...?"

Originally Posted by superdawgfan

"...naked like the other bonehead kayaker...?"

Originally Posted by MAINLANDER

"...and drunk naked kyackers..."

Originally Posted by parrothead

"...naked people were renters and the owner of the property wanted the powerboater to replace the kayak..."

Originally Posted by ITD

"...these naked midnight [kayakers]..."

Note the irony? The Hypocrisy?

Clothes-optional visitors at night—bringing no violence nor killing anyone—can be freely attacked, criticized, denigrated, abused and besmirched for a not-infrequent proclivity on quiet waters.

Yet the same "Live-Free-or-Die" crowd will illogically defend the alcohol-induced excess which results in hundreds of reported accidents on the water annually, while tacitly defending Lake Winnipesaukee speeds double or triple the proposed daylight speed limit.