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Originally Posted by VtSteve
...Skip says to avoid any talk of safety issues at all, because the lawmakers and do-gooders will simply come up with more laws and more restrictions, because they aren't smart enough to do anything else...
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Well there you go Steve.
I had to sit back for a few hours before I replied to your post.
Let me start by saying you just answered a question you posed to me off line as to why I don't offer my opinion in these threads.
I never, ever said to avoid any talk of safety issues. I never said legislators aren't smart. You have attempted to paraphrase me and in doing so have taken me completely out of context.
Hmm, who have I heard complain loud and clear about the same thing in other threads? Why you, of course.
If you want to have an intelligent and adult debate about this issue, then stick to the legislation. There's an old adage in political debate; debate the issue and not the man. Its also the core concept around Robert's Rules of Order.
It is apparent that there are still too many people related to this subject that cannot stick to the debate but have to degrade themselves into personal attacks of their opponents or their opponent's motivation.
That is why with thousands of registered members here, all of who must have some opinion of this issue, 99% of them refuse to partake in this discussion.
That is why Don had to moderate the boating thread, not because of the subject at hand but because of the handful of posters that couldn't, and still don't, debate like adults.
Here's the bottom line. Whether I support speed limits or not I am completely convinced that they are here to stay. I am completely convinced that the Lake is nowhere near as dangerous as some here continually portray it. And I am completely convinced that speed limits will move to other bodies of water.
There will be no huge new influx of cash to the NHMP. They will continue to do the job that they do with the limited resources they are given. I happen to think they do a damn fine job and as a taxpayer and boater I DO NOT want to see the agency taken over by the State Police, or expanded to such a degree that there's an officer in every nook & cranny of the Lake. I do not need to be babysat by the Government when I am relaxing. If the Lake becomes too crazy for me I will simply boat elsewhere, knowing that my perception of craziness is bliss to the boater that takes my place.
Oh, and I'm bowing out of these threads for good with the final observation:
There are a handful of pro speed limit supporters that act and post like juveniles.
There are a boatload of anti speed limit supporters that act and post like juveniles.
After having followed this debate closely for a number of years I have come to the final conclusion:
In my book you win Bear Islander. Not because you are necessarily correct on the subject, but you have taken the high ground with thoughtful, provocative but always on subject debate since day one. You sir are a gentleman and a fantastic debater. I tip my hat to you and give you my blessings as I know you still have a little fight left in you here!
And with that I bid a fond adieu...I'll see everyone over on the adult section of the website!
