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Old 08-19-2018, 07:11 AM   #73
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My property retains trees and other vegetation, but erosion still occurs. Although the erosion is so gradual that it might not be noticed from one year to the next, a telling indicator is that a surveyor's post from before my time on the property, presumably 30 years ago or so, is now two feet on the water side of the shore line.
And you know this for a fact? You readily admit that is marker was placed “before your time” and “presumably” 30 years ago and even though at the time you didn’t witness where it was placed, or when exactly but for the purposes of making your claim you simply throw out arbitrary observation. It’s not in the least bit possible this was placed there instead we are to believe that two feet of shore has eroded?
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When oversized boats pass by, their wakes artificially raise the lake level, invisibly (and "innocently") pulling even more soil contents into the lake..
This is the most ridiculous statement ever – so the waves of a boat that you classify as “oversize” without definition are the ONLY thing that is supposedly doing this. So I can easily throw a 2.5 foot wake behind my 14’ aluminum boat, I guess that if it doesn’t make your “oversized” list won’t do a thing but the same sized wake from a boat you don’t like or classify as “oversized” is destroying the shore? I’m trying not to laugh to hard at that one. How about the wakes created by passing sailboats? Oh right those are OK because they are on the “approved” APS list of boats.
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This tree, which is obviously falling into the lake, could not have started as a sapling at "full pond". This tree is slowly releasing soil into the lake. Like many of the trees along Winter Harbor's shoreline, only a few shoreline rocks are delaying its slow slide into the lake.
This tree is not obviously falling into the lake, in fact it looks based on the size and shape of the base of the trunk been there for a long time. In fact, if you look at the tree right next to it in the same picture grew out nearly horizontal before making a 90 degree angle and grew quasi vertically. Based on the size of that trunk both have been there a long time. Again, though for the purposes of over dramatization trees never start to grow anywhere unless it was perfectly cultivated. It’s not in the least bit possible that trees don’t prefer to grow in a direction where their unimpeded by surrounding trees or for that matter in the direction of where they would be exposed to the most sun – in this case over the water? Nah could never happen on planet APS. Last time I was in winter harbor I’m sorry but I missed “many of the trees” along the shore are at risk of “sliding into the lake”. You’d think Winter Harbor is a pending disaster area with all these dangerous trees along the shore on the verge of falling into the lake and killing somebody! BTW in taking a walk along my frontage yesterday I spied several saplings growing at precarious angles out over the water right out of the shore line rocks. Shockingly it happens.
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The article fails to address the compounding of two or more wakes which extends the invisible reach of water to shorelines
There is a reason for that, because waves of this kind do not “compound”. May want to read up on the science of waves in water.

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Like our neighbors (and islanders), we draw water from the lake. Early in the season, lake water appears different. Can you guess which container just might have the results of nine months of precipitation, an artificially-raised Spring lake level, and a sun-filled weekend of oversized-boat traffic?
Wait a minute…. Didn’t you say this?
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When oversized boats pass by, their wakes artificially raise the lake level, invisibly (and "innocently") pulling even more soil contents into the lake..
So which is it? Now you are contradicting yourself by saying this is happening invisibly then post a picture of a bottle of water visibly that suggests otherwise.

Embellishing your argument makes you look silly, how is anyone supposed to take what you say seriously? LOL I certainly don’t.
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