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Originally Posted by Mee-n-Mac

Or to be more discerning, the way the messenger puts out his message (for me anyway). The snippet above is 1 example of the emotional drivel* you put forth to prop up your positions.

True. I deleted my original reply that Belmont Resident (BR) would be happy on ANY lake, whereas I view the recent appearance of Big Boats and Offshores as an affront to those of us who continue to own the very same "unworthy" small boats as decades ago on Winnipesaukee.

BR advocates that I (we) should "Buy a bigger boat". A bit arrogant, don't you think?

OK, I jazzed it up with ethylene glycol. Big deal.

Originally Posted by Mee-n-Mac

Another is the cherry picking you do when finding boating accidents, presumably to show how bad the "bad boats" are. I just googled boating + accident...

No kidding, Sherlock! Oops, I mean "Worthy Adversary".

Try boating + accident + tragedy. Otherwise you'll cherry-pick reports of boaters falling within their own boats -- a very common injury (-- likely caused by "Waves").

Collision works with Google too; but it, too, cherry-picks by eliminating boating accidents by those who fall overboard while peeing.

Originally Posted by Mee-n-Mac

"...although you did try to infer that the waves mentioned in 2 other accidents came from "too large" vessels (any evidence to support this ? Could be this is why the newspaper didn't state it as such).

No evidence: we're both mature enough to know that newpapers that sell "Big Boat" advertisements also have editors who are compelled to change a good reporter's "suspect wake" to "just waves, folks, move along...".

Originally Posted by Mee-n-Mac

I certainly support your "right"...to express your viewpoints, even when I disagree, but expect some arguments when your unbalanced claptrap* pegs somebodys BS meter.

For the last three years of viewing this Forum, I recall three Offshore "incidents" -- one fatal. Not all make the newspapers, either -- a problem when trying to access back pages without paying $2 for the report.

There have been other fatal Offshore incidents -- and not just with stepped hulls -- on Winnipesaukee. For some reason, they seem to be taking place near me -- which I take to heart! The nearest Offshore fatality involved an experienced operator who omitted a key safety practice.

Sculpin was close enough to have become a victim had the same Offshore ommission occurred six days ago.

A bit too frequent an occurrence for the ~300 Offshores (and growing) on Winnipesaukee!

Originally Posted by Mee-n-Mac

With regard to this incident, we only have Sculpin's report of the happenings...He might well have been or maybe he just let his driving exceed his capabilities. Incompetence seems proven, reckless yet to come, perhaps.

True. Eye-witness accounts are always suspect. These cases should appear in a Court of Law, where The Truth always comes out.

Originally Posted by Mee-n-Mac

but I wonder if someone were to spin a vintage 911 (I think you have some experience with these) whilst cornering would you say this was the car or the driver ?

True, but I don't have experience spinning 911s, though I have much track-time in them. The secret to driving the original 911s, 356s, the original Mini-Coopers, and VW Beetles (the worst, as these would roll over before spinning) is "never to lift your foot in a turn".

Originally Posted by Mee-n-Mac

...I recall your answer from last year from a similar discussion; [The Car is the Driver].

Still true today.

Originally Posted by Mee-n-Mac

The rest of us go about thinking we're responsible for our actions, not trying to find fault with the devices we're operating.

Key Word: "Thinking".

Originally Posted by Mee-n-Mac

Lastly I would agree w/MAXUM (though I have less condemnation) in that I don't have much sympathy for the person at the helm.

No argument there.

Originally Posted by Mee-n-Mac

*so how do you like my emotional, provocative, shoot from the lip style ? I could have phrased things differently, and still expressed the same views, but I wanted to make a point. Hope I did. I now return to my normal posting style.

I LIKED it!