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Old 03-06-2006, 07:39 PM   #43
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Originally Posted by Evenstar

One of the main concerns of the study (the last line in my previous post), was that PWC are getting more powerful (and faster). I did a quick search and here are what some 2005 and 2006 production models are capable of:

2005 Yamaha VX110 – 110 hp - “ averaged a respectable top speed of 51.85 mph”: http://www.watercraftworld.com/output.cfm?id=975331

2005 Sea-Doo GTX SC – 185 hp – “The fastest I have had her going (according to both the digital and analog speedo's) with just myself on it is 67 mph, and have had it going 64 mph with three of us on it.”

2006 Sea-Doo's RXP – 215 hp - does 0 to 60 mph in 5.5 seconds http://www.popularmechanics.com/outdoors/boating/1277266.html
“I was amazed at how fast this thing is. I am a big guy, 450lbs and the all-new digital speedo said 81 MPH. I mean that was nuts. I let a buddy who is 200 lbs lighter ride and he had it up to 90 MPH.” http://www.powersportsnetwork.com/enthusiasts/review_detail.asp?rv=35844&veh=24204

2005 Yamaha WaveRunner® FX Cruiser: “I had this up to 61 mph with me, 280 pounds, on it without any modifications.” http://www.powersportsnetwork.com/motorcyclereviewdetail/rv=31028/veh=13829/review31028.htm

2006 Yamaha GP® 1300R – 170 hp - this is one very fast jetski NOT FOR THE FAINT HEARTED approx 85+ mph (real scary speed) http://www.boatsandoutboards.co.uk/view/F85118/

2006 Honda AquaTrax F-12X – “Dumping 165 hp into a watercraft that weighs just over 700 pounds is like giving Kentucky Derby winner Monarchos the whip. I have to strain to keep from being tossed off, and within seconds the speedometer is reading 68 mph.” http://www.popularmechanics.com/outdoors/boating/1277116.html

You guys really amaze me. Many of you claim that there’s no relationship between speed and accidents. Then when someone posts a report that shows a definite connection, you try to just dismiss it.

By claiming that the posted report has “very little to do with the speed limit debate.”

Or that the poster misquoted the information (Even though I post my links).

Or that the 150 foot rule was violated, so the speed doesn’t even matter. (Guess what? In any collision, when either vessel was traveling faster than headway speed, the 150 foot rule has been violated.)

Or that the information in the report doesn't apply to Winnipesauskee. (HB-162 is for a speed limit on all NH lakes and rivers, not just Winni)

Wow Evenstar, I'm not even going to check your HP numbers although some of the speeds seem to be a stretch but I'll just give to you the fact that all the PWCs listed will go faster than 45mph.

You know what though, your posts are getting better but you are still the same person who posted as though you had many bad experiences on Winni. when in fact you had never been on the lake with your kayak. So I always view your posts with an ounce of skepticism.

Now after months of asking for data to support your claims you've started to try to do so. The problem I have is that you are drawing conclusions that are a stretch for supporting the original argument which is whether or not there is a need for a speed limit on Winni.

Here is a line that I think is just plain wrong :

"It has been statistically proven that the number of collisions ... are reduced as speed is reduced."

Now I know you are parafrasing a Coast Guard CO, but just because someone took the time to write it down doesn't mean it's true. It just doesn't make sense, as I said before, if this were true there would be many more highway accidents than city road accidents.

This speed limit is not going to make it safe for you to travel anyplace you want on the lake. There are few lakes in NH where a motorboat can be used as practically as on Winnipesaukee. There are hundreds of lakes and rivers in NH where you can use your kayak. There are hundreds of places on Winni. where you can use your kayak and never see a motor boat. You want to be out in the middle of lake in your kayak and feel safe. It will still not be safe for you to be in the middle of the lake with a 45mph speed limit. Imposing your speed limit on everyone else because you've decided you want to kayak across the Broads once in a while is just not right.
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