[Fat Jack]

Whose the one using scare tactics now?

Originally Posted by Woodsy

The legislature will have to purchase 45/25 signs for every public boat launch in the state (excepting those lakes with motorized limits). That will cost an estimated $100,000 or so, with a recurring cost of $2500 or so to replace signs due to vandalism etc.

We have boating laws that require almost every boater to have certification...no signs. We have the 150 foot rule...no signs. We have a myriad of other laws specific to NH that boaters are responsible to know (ignorance is no excuse), yet we have no signs at our ramps. Suddenly, for the speed limit, we need all these signs....Why? Is it just to make HB162 sound expensive?

Originally Posted by Woodsy

they will need 2 (guns) for Seacoast

While I agree that the cost of these guns is not a serious expense...they will be paid for after only a couple of citations...wasn't the Seacoast already removed from the bill? And where in all of your calculations do you add in the income from fines and the HUGE economic boost that the state will realize from all of this?

Originally Posted by Woodsy

Now if they send just those 15 to the two week radar training course, you are looking at 30 weeks of salary (2 weeks per officer)

Not that I concede to the rest of your logic, but as to just this issue, rather than having those officers sitting in Glendale polishing their shoes in February, while receiving full pay, and then sending them to training in the summer time, as you seem to be suggesting, why not send them to training in the off season as other marine law enforcement agencies do? What better use of their winter salary than to have them in training to improve their policing skills?

Originally Posted by Woodsy

Lets assume they split up the 15 officers equally. 5 for the Seacoast, 5 roaming, and 5 for Lake Winnipesaukee. Given that the MP in the summer is pretty much a 24-7 job, its a pretty safe assumption that on the busiest of summer weekends, no more than 2 radar qualified officers (and more than likely only 1) will be operating on Lake Winnipesaukee at any given time.

Again the scare tactics. First, recall that I am not buying into any of this logic, and the Seacoast is out…we need no officers there. But for only the sake of argument, as you are getting ready to head out in the Donzi, do you know for sure whether we have all 15 guns on Winnipesaukee today, or only ten? Do you feel lucky? Do we really need a gun in every boat and in every cove to make would-be offenders behave?

Originally Posted by Woodsy

Now for the real costs.... Court time! Whomever is issued a speeding ticket, will no doubt fight it. The costs of paying the MP officer overtime, the costs of the court (judges, clerks etc) will easily exceed another $100,000 or so per year, recurring.

Again, you ignore the income. Other lakes have all realized a perfect conviction record. You have already charged us for training and calibration to be sure we can have the same record, so we hit these lawbreakers for $500 a whack and we are actually making money. Besides all teh money the sate brings in from having real money-spending tourists using the lake again. Since there are only supposed to be a few of these really fast boats anyway (according to your side) citations are going to drop off almost instantly as soon as the first citations are issued…then the overtime is gone, but the benefits of the law remain….forever.

Originally Posted by Woodsy

Every lawyer in the state that wants to make some easy money representing boat speeding cases will have a copy of the letter obtained by NHRBA from Kustom Signals on file that specifically states their radar isn't accurate at distances greater than 1/4 mile etc etc. No doubt securing a dismissal of the speeding ticket.

Please show us this letter…I’ve contacted Kustom and they deny making any such broad statement. While all radar uses the same technology and is subject to the same limitations, I’ve never gotten out of an auto speeding limit by challenging the radar’s accuracy…have you?

Originally Posted by Woodsy

The MP will have to issue a similar number of tickets to family boats as it does to Hi-performance boats. Otherwise thats profiling, and we all know how well that goes over with the courts.

Nice try. Is this part of the same “discrimination” argument that has so far failed so miserably? Which of the protected classes are really fast boat drivers in?