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Old 01-17-2006, 11:22 AM   #48
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Originally Posted by Island Lover
This shows how bizarre the oppositions claims are becoming! High performance boats are not the problem! Its the canoes and kayaks that are the problem. How absurd can you get!

They don't mention there are probably 1,000 canoes for every high performance boat.

Anyway the question is not how many people die in small boats. The question is how many lives can be saved by a speed limit.

Can the opposition say that a speed limit CAN NOT save lives? Obviously not! The only other possibility is that a speed limit CAN save lives.

Thats good enough for me.
The smiley face meant nothing to you? The entire statement was obviously meant in jest.

According to the report, 20 people died in canoes and kayaks. Effectively prohibiting the use of kayaks and canoes WILL save lives. That good enough for you too?

Speed limits CAN save lives. I admit it. I don't think anyone who opposes the speed limit will argue that going slower is safer most of the time. Like just about any safety measure, it's a matter of how much individual liberty people are willing to trade for safety. Sitting perfectly still in an plastic bubble with purified air, being fed perfectly balanced nutrients intravenously, is vastly safer than driving downtown and eating sushi, but not much fun.

Personally, I won't rock climb, I won't base jump, I won't white water kayak or canoe, I won't do motorcycle stunts (even on a closed course), I won't wrestle crocodiles on TV, I won't hang glide, I won't race offshore powerboats, and I won't do lots of other inherently dangerous activities. I have no desire to prohibit others from doing them just because they might die though. Even if watching them makes me "feel" bad or scared. I'm a huge fan of individual liberty and responsibility.

I love driving on the autobhans in Germany, I love ripping down B roads at the "crazy high" speed limit of 60 MPH, or less, in Great Britain. These are two classic examples of where the lack of speed limits, or absurdly high speed limits and personal responsibility work just fine.

BTW, I think Route 93, Route 95, Route 101, the Spaulding TPK, and the Everett TPK should have no speed limit and better enforcement of passing lane use. I think all rural back roads should have a limit of 60 MPH, where they do not pass through population centers. I also the US should have vastly tougher standards for getting a license to drive any motorized vehicle, including boats.

I am against speed limits where they are dumb, and for education and testing where they are smart.
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