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BackBay · 07-26-2010, 10:57 PM

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My family has enjoyed frequenting The Wise Owl for many generations; this is why the activity of the dock coming down caught my eye. I certainly did not know my comments would be met with such hostility; that was not my intention. I was simply reading, connecting the dots, and asking some questions (which haven't been answered yet - we'd love to hear from you JOJ129!) What have I gotten myself into, here? I'm really not all that invested in this thing - but I guess I'll bite -

"I believe what Joj129 was trying to say that the neighbor tied his boat to the dock for an extended period of time, WHICH in turn pulled the dock out of alignment."

I see nothing in this post - or any previous post - that refers in any way to this point; the neighbor's boat? - I don't know anything about that -
If a boat is tied up to a dock - a dock that has withstood YEARS of use - how could that boat possibly pull that dock out of alignment? Isn't that what docks are for? For tying up?
If JOJ129 is from out of town, how does s/he know about this "extended period of time", as you suggest?

"The reason why the town is involved (in the removal of the dock) is due to the neighbors constant eye on our property."

In my experience, the town does not involve itself in he said/she said matters (or he saw/she saw matters) - I believe they have more important issues to attend to. If the town is involved, there must be a legitimate reason.
The town does not have the right to simply pull a dock to solve a neighborly dispute. If your family's business had legal rights to that dock, you should be raising holy hell with the town!
Perhaps the reason the town is involved is because the dock was on town property (That's what the sign said, anyway - Who knew?)

"God does not make threats!"

You have presented a flawed argument of deduction, and you have brought religion into an argument of logic. Religion is anything but logical.
I am not an acting Christian, but a practicing Christian, and I present this example: "So this is what the LORD Almighty says about them: 'I will punish them! Their young men will die in battle, and their little boys and girls will starve. Not one of these plotters from Anathoth will survive, for I will bring disaster upon them when their time of punishment comes.'" Jeremiah 11:22-23 (This sounds threatening to me.)
And, of course, there's the entire book of Deuteronomy.
Now let's move on from the religious tone, shall we?

"The "malicious" acts of asperity that our surrounding neighbors have inflicted upon us is completely unwarranted. The problem lies with greed."

I had to look up "asperity" -
You refer repeatedly (throughout your post) to neighbors, plural, but you seem to direct your anger towards just one.
Greed is absolutely abhorable, but from reading these posts, this issue seems to be of a legal nature, not a moral one.
Just wondering ... Why did your neighbor have caution tape all over their dock? and what are those big posts across the beach for?

"Instead of running around trying to get the "story" from all invested parties, I suggest you sit tight and wait until this dispute is settled."

I made no such plans - I actually said just the opposite. Rather than speaking to the invested (non-objective) parties, I said that I'd "go to the courthouse or the cops" Your anger simply reinforces my opinion.

And finally ... "Joj129 is NOT the owner."

Looking at the posts, logic would suggest the opposite. I apologize.
Your final paragraph is very similar to the writing of JOJ129. The scattered exclamation points are very telling, as are the word choices and overall tone.
Oops! I apologize for making that connection, too.

I, too, appreciate the positive comments on the thread. I did not realize my comments were negative - I was simply questioning, interpreting, and commenting on what I read in an objective and logical manner. Perhaps logic offends you? I do apologize - I had no frame of reference, no back-story. No worries, though... you've made everything very clear for me, now.

Regardless, I won't be posting again; hostility can be infectious, and I'd hate to catch it (and I certainly wouldn't want to be tempted to break any winni.com rules!) Plus, after "meeting" the daughter of the owner, I doubt that I'll be stopping by the Wise Owl again ... you know, that store that my family has frequented for many generations? Yep - that one.

It's ok, though - afterall, it's summertime, and I can't get there by boat.

07-26-2010, 10:57 PM	#20
BackBay Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 10 Thanks: 5 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Down, girl! @WinniGirl81 My family has enjoyed frequenting The Wise Owl for many generations; this is why the activity of the dock coming down caught my eye. I certainly did not know my comments would be met with such hostility; that was not my intention. I was simply reading, connecting the dots, and asking some questions (which haven't been answered yet - we'd love to hear from you JOJ129!) What have I gotten myself into, here? I'm really not all that invested in this thing - but I guess I'll bite - "I believe what Joj129 was trying to say that the neighbor tied his boat to the dock for an extended period of time, WHICH in turn pulled the dock out of alignment." I see nothing in this post - or any previous post - that refers in any way to this point; the neighbor's boat? - I don't know anything about that - If a boat is tied up to a dock - a dock that has withstood YEARS of use - how could that boat possibly pull that dock out of alignment? Isn't that what docks are for? For tying up? If JOJ129 is from out of town, how does s/he know about this "extended period of time", as you suggest? "The reason why the town is involved (in the removal of the dock) is due to the neighbors constant eye on our property." In my experience, the town does not involve itself in he said/she said matters (or he saw/she saw matters) - I believe they have more important issues to attend to. If the town is involved, there must be a legitimate reason. The town does not have the right to simply pull a dock to solve a neighborly dispute. If your family's business had legal rights to that dock, you should be raising holy hell with the town! Perhaps the reason the town is involved is because the dock was on town property (That's what the sign said, anyway - Who knew?) "God does not make threats!" You have presented a flawed argument of deduction, and you have brought religion into an argument of logic. Religion is anything but logical. I am not an acting Christian, but a practicing Christian, and I present this example: "So this is what the LORD Almighty says about them: 'I will punish them! Their young men will die in battle, and their little boys and girls will starve. Not one of these plotters from Anathoth will survive, for I will bring disaster upon them when their time of punishment comes.'" Jeremiah 11:22-23 (This sounds threatening to me.) And, of course, there's the entire book of Deuteronomy. Now let's move on from the religious tone, shall we? "The "malicious" acts of asperity that our surrounding neighbors have inflicted upon us is completely unwarranted. The problem lies with greed." I had to look up "asperity" - You refer repeatedly (throughout your post) to neighbors, plural, but you seem to direct your anger towards just one. Greed is absolutely abhorable, but from reading these posts, this issue seems to be of a legal nature, not a moral one. Just wondering ... Why did your neighbor have caution tape all over their dock? and what are those big posts across the beach for? "Instead of running around trying to get the "story" from all invested parties, I suggest you sit tight and wait until this dispute is settled." I made no such plans - I actually said just the opposite. Rather than speaking to the invested (non-objective) parties, I said that I'd "go to the courthouse or the cops" Your anger simply reinforces my opinion. And finally ... "Joj129 is NOT the owner." Looking at the posts, logic would suggest the opposite. I apologize. Your final paragraph is very similar to the writing of JOJ129. The scattered exclamation points are very telling, as are the word choices and overall tone. Oops! I apologize for making that connection, too. I, too, appreciate the positive comments on the thread. I did not realize my comments were negative - I was simply questioning, interpreting, and commenting on what I read in an objective and logical manner. Perhaps logic offends you? I do apologize - I had no frame of reference, no back-story. No worries, though... you've made everything very clear for me, now. Regardless, I won't be posting again; hostility can be infectious, and I'd hate to catch it (and I certainly wouldn't want to be tempted to break any winni.com rules!) Plus, after "meeting" the daughter of the owner, I doubt that I'll be stopping by the Wise Owl again ... you know, that store that my family has frequented for many generations? Yep - that one. It's ok, though - afterall, it's summertime, and I can't get there by boat.

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