I doubt you'll ever see the likes of APS ever answer (or own up to) deliberate falsifying wherever he posts.
I'd also like to add this to Don.
You've been far more protective of the supporters. This is an open debate, and they put up obvious BS in other threads that we get cut out of. APS is the biggest offender of all, and the other biggest offender is just so full of it, most filter him out. Not willing to discuss factual aspects of events that they themselves post is a pretty obvious indication of their own relevance.
Without them both filtered, the overall "discussion" would be most cordial, and informative.
Most of these arguments and/or discussions work themselves out when facts and good intentions are presented. When that is not allowed to happen, people get testy.
But there are certainly better boards to discuss this.
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