new boat.. see you out there!
 

Just bought her yesterday.. Look forward to seeing you all out there!!!!

Beauty, can't wait to see her on the lake. Congrats.

45 mph
 

going to be tough keeping it under the limit...:(

I will get flammed for this... but whatever... LOL

I hope the gas prices stay low enough so you can enjoy the boat. Just limit the tubing/wakeboarding.

Thanks.. I agree..... Gas could be very tough.. Good part is I will be trailering it so at least I won't have to fill up on the lake.

Probably not the best boat to be tubing behind. I have a 17 foot fishing boat that would work much better.

I don't think the person being towed would enjoy a rooster tail in the face LOL

nice looking boat. clean. specs??? i see a procharger on the 500 efi. length, year, tow vehicle?

if it were my boat, need graphics on the sides.

have fun

see ya out there

I am going to have the active thunder logo (same as my avatar) on the rear side. I like the all white, clean looking.. But who knows maybe something in the future.

It does have a procharger. It is a 1999 active thunder savage 28 feet. I have a F250 so no worries there.

Congrats. Looks perfect for the lake, hope to see you out there this year.

Excuse my ignorance, but what's a procharger? The headers look like they go straight to the transom so it's not a turbo charger, is it a supercharger?

Never mind the speed limit, how are you going to meet the noise limit?

Yes to compare it to automotive mechanics it is a supercharger.

I will definatley have to get mufflers.. I thought about turn downs but that will only solve the problem if I am not up on plain around "the man"... So I am going to look for something that is easy to install and remove. No where else I go has noise or any other type of limits.... So just another hassel to overcome.

She's A Pretty Boat....
 

OCDACTIVE, best of luck on your new boat!

jrc-procharger vs. supercharger
 

procharger: basically the same as a supercharger as used in a car. procharger is water cooled and a supercharger is oil cooled from the engine oil. like a big air pump that pushes air into the engine intake (boost) for MORE power. small package to make big power. can be put almost any inboard engine.

see the chrome/polished piping coming off the side of the charger going to the intake?

supercharger: needs a intercooler to cool the "charged" air. oil cooled. huge piece on top of the engine.

search the web for more info. thats what i know of them

Looks great best of luck with her,look forward to seeing you out on the water.

She's a beauty!
 

I find putting on the biggest prop that the boat can handle helps keeps the GPH up. Give her a name so that I know its you and i will give you the wave!

I am putting Active Thunder. The same as my Avatar on the rear quarter of each side. The previous owner had a 5 blade.. big pitch and it caused too much stern lift. There is a 32 on there now which seems to work great.. Not too much prop slip and pushing 86 - 88 mph you really can't complain. :D

Unfortunately,I guess you'll have to do that on Winnisquam now.:laugh:

Or just not get caught...

I highly doubt they are going to be gunning people in the middle of the broads...... But we shall see... :D

Congrats on the new ride..... sweet looking boat!

Woodsy

Phew - holy cow what a boat. :eek: No economy issues in your house hold. :D

I have choosen not to participate in the economy slow down. :D

Nice Boat!!! Congrats OD!!! I am looking forward to seeing you out there!:coolsm:

Get in sit down and shut up!
 

Looks like your hat can get blown off real easy! What for the KAYAKERS:D

The Kayakers don't have to worry about the hats.. LOL..

I bought a set of head wraps for that reason... (already lost one in Long Island sound test driving her:eek:)

...way nice looking boat.....how many gallons to fill the gasoline tank, and how many quarts to fill the engine oil crankcase....use synthetic or regular oil?...... just wondering?

the gas tank is close to 100 gallons 93 octane. not sure on how many quarts but everything is all synthetic.

Sweet ride!
 

OCDACTIVE

You are going to have a fun summer!

Don't you just Love new boat smell?

Misty Blue

I sure will..... But the boat doesn't have the smell.. It is new... New to me that is the boat is a 1999. so lost her smell a few years ago.. see ya out there! :D

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That ought to get you at least an hours worth of boating!

I'll be looking for you out there........see how you do against my Donzi

I'm sure you guys will have quite the race at 45mph... :rolleye2:

This is a good thread though, we should either turn this into a place for eveyone to show off their new toy for the season, or maybe start a new thread for it. I'll post pics of mine next week when I pick it up.

Yeah I hear you. This morning was the first day I drove to work in my '09 Honda Accord. Good buys and financing out there right now if your able to purchase what you desire (or need.) ;)

Bring it on :D

what size / type / engine you have in the donzi?

Love Donzi's by the way.. Great great hull.

Fastest boat to 45 mph wins!

I highly doubt they will be sitting in the middle of the broads gunning people. So I will just take my chances :eek::D

My 22 Stingray with the tabs gets to 45 very quick. It's only a small block, but I'm on plane and trimming up in just a few seconds. I guess it's after that point I'd have to worry, or start making excuses about fouled plugs and all that :emb:

Just trying to get a rise out of you.OCDACTIVE.......I had an older 3x2 with a modified big block....sold it and moved to a deck boat......it was fast but pretty noisy.....my neighbors like me now.
I'm just droolling over your new AT...they are a quality boat and I know you'll have a great time with it.Have you had it out yet?

I hate to tell you guys but I think most big PWC's might be the quickest to 45 mph.I'll meet you there!

Thank you SAMIAM.. I actually go pull her home this Friday.. (having trouble sleeping.. LOL)

I plan on putting her in down in Mass on May 9th. (I won't have any type of mufflers then) my first time on the lake will be memorial day if all goes well.

Siksukr - I think that is a given.. A lot harder to bring 7500 lbs + up to speed then 600 lbs... Unfortunately I think the PWC group will be targeted the most out there. (not that they already haven't been)

Yup, my Sea Doo gets there pretty quick, even with my fat butt riding it. I don't get more than about 55 out of it though, which is fine with me. I might be on a newer Sea Doo this summer...we shall see how much extra coin I can save up.

Nice!
 

Give a wave as your blasting past the south end of Rattlesnake!

will do but best to keep her down the middle. Closer to land the better chance of a radar gun. :eek:

Do you realize that the Marine Patrol reads this forum? You've showed them pictures of your boat and made it clear that you intend to come here (from NY?) and intentionally disregard the law.

I've said before that I don't expect the SL to be strictly enforced. It's one thing to open it up a little when no one is around but you've thrown down the gauntlet and challenged them to stop you. If I were a MP officer I know I'd be watching for you. :rolleye2:

Do you honestly think that a Go fast boat in general is not a target? If one or two posts get me in trouble then I would be amazed. I think and hope they have bigger things to worry about.

But you could be right and you could be saying "I told you so" Only time will tell.

Cheers.

Now If I were the MP
 

Just to drum up a little extra cash flow...I'd sit where I expect people to break the law....so that would be in the Broad's

Two boat team one gun one out waiting to pull you over....just like the State Police on the highways.

Good Luck out there

I see your point, but wouldn't you think that they would be where the complaints have come from? especially where the test zones were?

Bear Island, Sleepers, Weirs Bay etc?

From what I understand is that they work best when in a "fixed" or steady position. That is why on Lake George they have a platform on a point where the radar gun is fixed with a boat waiting to go. This apparently is the most accurate which has held up in court.

The Broads harder place to enforce due to distance and constant movement.

I am again totally against them "obviously" but the best positions I would think are at the point of the bays or off an island. The tip of Wolfboro Bay, Alton, Bear Island etc.

Not trying to drum up the SL crowd, but just speaking of the enforcment issue as a whole.

The biggest problem will be the exact direction the boat traveling relative to the radar.The gun will always show a slower speed if the boat is not coming/leaving in a direct path.If there is an angle,unless it is adjusted for,the reading will be slower.There are a lot of variables in trying to take radar readings from a bobbing boat with different approach angles.This will give laywers some fuel to discredit readings.Time will tell.

fines
 

in topic with the SL part of this, does anyone know what the fines for speeding are

It is my understanding that it caries over to you drivers license, but I have not read anything about fines

and keeping in topic with the orginal post, nice boat

Distance will be a factor too. It's hard to get a good return from a long distance. The key to avoiding a speeding ticket, should one opt to ignore the speed limit, is to avoid heading directly toward other boats, and to stay well away from other boats. Not bad advice SL or not....

The broads is massive...and its not like you cant tell a cop boat from miles away. best of luck enforcing this pointless rule... anyway, nice ride OCD

Your boat looks great, nice and clean, best of luck
but I hope she not a YANKEE FAN (ny6422fs0:laugh:

Good Golly, I should hope not!

Sorry, but someone HAD to...

No way.. She has been trending towards Boston since she was built. She now finally feels at home.. Hey I figure a championship boat deserves a championship team.. :eek:

Actually now that I think of it........ Sox, Pats, Celts and even the Bruins.. Yup she is happy to be home.. :D

Well, I didn't get pulled over this year............ Unfortunately the reason was I wasn't out there as much as initally planned. I got to use her for 12 hours on lake... I tested her out (read into that as you will) and I got to live my dream of driving her into the Weirs Channel then over to the Naswa.....

This was short lived however because the 3rd weekend of June when I was prepping her for Virginia I suddenly had some power loss issues with oil coming out the intake of the supercharger.. Needless to say I wasn't happy.

After much diagnosis, she needs a rebuild. So instead of racing her in Virginia I got to be a passenger.

Towing her down to VA this October for a complete rebuild and hopefully a new paint job.. She will be ready to rock next season.. So back to dreaming again!!

Running as a passenger in VA.... Would have preferred to be driving but still an absolute Great time.. Would love to get shots like this on Lake Winni...

Well, got the supercharger pulled and sold!!!! rewaxed and got her ready for her big pull to VA!...

As long as there is no castisrophic failure.... the boat will be back next April with a new engine, throttle, GPS, gauges, and PAINT JOB...

Can't wait to see you all out there...

Even EL in his sailboat.... :D

Any ideas yet on new power plant? Can't wait to see her out on the water again.

Well we think it will be the same engine. 500 EFI. however I removed the supercharger. Although I liked going 87mph, I would prefer having longevity and dependability on the engine year to year.... I know some about engines but not enough to do rebuilds on my own. So once this one is all done I should be good for 500 hrs before anything major needs to be done. I will only top off around 72 -74 depending on the conditions and what prop. But the nice part is I could go WOT and not do any damage to the engine what so ever....

Thanks I can't wait either. If it is not a catisrophic failure I will have a new paint job as well.

That's the best course OCD. That boat can do great through waves and big chop at 40 to 50 all day long. That's pretty much what I want. The base 525 or even less is plenty. I don't need a full time mechanic or extra engines and parts in my storage either. I was surprised at the relative low use of fuel for some of these boats. It's all about RPM's and the hull's efficiency. The Formula 290SS I looked at had only twin 350's, but they were pushing a nearly 9000 pound boat :eek: Topped out at 57 mph, but drank quite a bit of fuel at around 28 gph if I remember correctly. That's more than many cruisers.

Good luck with the new power, I think you're making the smart move.

found you a new engine and drive package. will set you back about $125000 or so. :D:D:D:coolsm::coolsm:

http://www.mercuryracing.com/_media/...075sci_lar.jpg

God I love big horsepower engines. twin superchargers, Bravo One X-Racing Drive,

Yup I've seen those.. Gorgeous engine.... Why not add a whipple and surface drive while we are at it?

here's mine before the supercharger was removed

looks like a tight fit infront of the engine. moddify theseat a lil for the blower? or was it like that when you bought it? good luck in your replacement and happy boating

The Blower was on it when I bought it and yes it had been modified. the blower is off now and I will be getting that repaired. You would believe the amount of room there is now to get in there to work on her.

I just found out that the boat I test drove that made me fall in love with mine is up for sale!.. Exact same boat and year. Only difference is it has twin 350 small blocks. Trust me when I say I would have jumped on this if it were up for sale last year.

It is one of only two 28 Active Thunders ever built. If you like mine and want the info. PM me.

For a boat your size and that beam, I'm positive I'd rather have a 525 single than twin 350's. Do you mean an AT28 with twins OCD? Because the 28 Savage is an active design now, until they go to a 29.

I wonder if the oil coming out of your supercharger was the lube oil from the supercharger?!? Maybe your engine isn't as far gone as it looks!! Good luck with the rebuild; I'm looking forward to seeing some hot graphics on that hull!! :)


No Whipple; remember, engine longevity is the goal!! Besides, that Mercruiser 1075 already has 2 twin-screw superchargers on it; three would be overkill!! Now, about the surface piercing drive?? Definitely a plus to have!! If I could afford it, I'd have an Arneson surface drive on my Baja! Everything I've read says a surface drive really delivers when it comes to fuel savings and adding to your top end speed! :)

Dont you mean you will top out at 45mph :laugh:

Love the boat...looks bad ass

I am a supercharger guy, but have fought the urge in the Baja for now...reliable power is better than silly, but unreliable power. Although I cant rule out a Whipple on the 496HO someday :rolleye2:

Good luck with the rebuild...next season we will have to go for a blast across the broads at a steady 45mph

Just from what I have heard around the boards.. The whipples do A LOT more damage then pro chargers.. I am staying away from both.

Hey Steve, I don't follow...

Do you mean an AT28 with twins OCD?

Yes that is a 1999 Active Thunder 28 Savage.. Same as mine with twin small blocks. It runs awesome... The beam is fine.

He will make the 28's if asked but I hear the molds are forsale as well.

I have read that too, but there are a few guys that have been running them for years with no problems. I would not do it, until I was prepared to build the motor..but as of now I am broke and need to pay off this boat before I try blowing it up!!!!!

I heard the same thing about prochargers.. Too much work for too little power... You need to really upgrade everything in the engine Rods, pistions etc.. you need to lower compression ratios.. Technically you need to build a new engine to handle the whipples or prochargers. Frankly for the amount it will cost for the actual unit, the upgrades to the engine and outdrive, and upkeep it is just easier and possibly less expensive to just go buy a bigger engine.... 650 maybe? :D

engine is out...
 

hopefully will know what the malfunction is soon!

Built correctly for the power.
 

You are correct. I had a dragster back in the 70's and have worked on engines for both bracket racing and circle tracks. At one time, I had a 1975 21' Raysoncraft with a 640 blown Ford by Holman and Moody in California. The blower was a whipple charger. Holman and Moody replace practically all moving parts with racing equivalents. It was a great setup.

My choice for engine rebuilder today will be Teague Marine in California. When I bought my Formula, the 7.4 litre engine was tired and the valves were tuliped. I replace it with a bobtail 454 Magnum from Mercury. That way I had a 2 year waranty on the motor and was able to 'drop in' the engine. After breaking it in, I didn't like the way it sounds as it seems to be skipping and at times, 'running on 7 cylinders'. A number of good mechanics around the lake could not figure out what is wrong. I finally gave Bob Teague a call. I was surprised to get 'the man' on the phone. He made several suggestions over the phone and is extremely knowledgable. After replacing the stock coil and wires with Jacobs brand. It ran great! Then I replace the needles in the carb with ones that he reccomended, as well as replace the prop with a Revolution 4 blade. It had literally woke up the boat. I am having a blast! If you need technical advise, I would give him a call!

VTsteve, my buddy just lowered the price on the 28 with twins.. Let me know if you would like the info.

I wish I were in the market OCD, but not. I'm getting murdered in taxes :(

As I have no tow vehicle, I'd probably have to include something in the total for that as well for that type of boat.

Overall, I'd be happier in a big cuddy like the 275 Chap. (again up for sale as a very lightly used boat) . I like to cruise around, overnight, that sort of thing.

Why not just follow the rules ???
 

Don't we all want a safe lake for all? I mean why boast about breaking the rules? Not a good example for young people either.

Safety has nothing to do with it.. If you read back on this and other threads, there hasn't been one instance that speed was the leading contributer to an accident.

Education and enforcement of exisiting laws is the answer..

PS. Welcome to the forums.

Lucky1,
Welcome to boating in NH, where traveling at high speeds in multi-ton brakeless vehicles magically becomes safe. Don't you know that the Speed Limit Law was not really about safety? It was really just an attempt by a few wealthy Democratic land barons to ban a certain type of boat from "their" lake. So it is perfectly acceptable and safe for 16 year olds who have passed a 50 question internet test on channel markers and anchor line length to ignore the Speed Limit if they do not like it. ;)

PS: only kidding.

That's why the true NH natives are P.O. We need to get the Democrats out of our true beloved state! 'Live Free or Die!'

PS: He's not kidding!

speed how about this.my new motor for 25ft boat....

very very NICE.... What type of 25 ft are you putting that in? did you have to upgrade the drive?

Here's a good item about the relationship of speed and safety on other waters...luckily, this does not apply to Lake Winnipesaukee, where there has never been an accident involving excessive speed (WINK).

http://www.theboaters.com/tv/34-boat...at-music-video

getting closer to an answer.
 

So the mechanic called. Still no definative answer. but Cyl #4 and 6 (middle cylindars on the right side) have no compression. Since they share the same head gasket that is most likely part of the problem. He thinks due to the constant oil pressure and that the engine still starts turn key, that it is holes in the pistions burnt out by the pro-charger. Lets hope this is the case!.. Otherwise could get very costly.

Here's a poor guy out sailing along minding his own business and this 63-footer slams into him and kills him;
http://www.southcoasttoday.com/apps/.../NEWS/80814002
It's nice to know that the chances of such a tragedy are so much lower since the SL.

Good news.. Found a new fuel injection system to bring it back to stock. A real nice guy out in Ontario actually had the same engine that he put a whipple on, but he saved all the original parts! So even if there is a crank or rods issue I have access to them. Major savings..

Now if I can only trade up my prop.... I have a 32 LH Bravo 1 4 blade, looking for a 26 LH Bravo 1 4 blade. Will trade straight up if anyone is interested?

Another tragedy
 

Last summer, hadn't seen that one.

" Mr. Hathaway said he blames the collision on the "inattention" of whoever was operating the Reasons.

"We were going four knots and he was going three and a half times that fast," he said.

Power-driven vessels are to keep out of the way of sailing vessels at all times, according to navigation rules established by the United States Coast Guard. When one vessel gets too close to another, it is deemed to be "overtaking" that vessel."


What was your point this time El?

Here's another accident that shouldn't have happened had there been a SL;
http://abclocal.go.com/kgo/story?sec...eam&id=5831990

There are actually thousands and thousands of cases like this...I'll keep them coming as I get time. I think it will be truly enlightening for those who still think that high speeds and safety are unrelated. Thankfully, there is no correlation between the two on Winnipesaukee (WINK)

I will keep my eyes open for that prop.

Thanks... I already picked up a 24 by trading in a 5 blade I had but I hear that a 26 may get me 2-3 mph on the top end. So I might be slower out of the hole but it may be the difference between 71 and 74mph... really only 10 mph slower then when I had the procharger. So definately worth a try.

LH 25" Bravo I 3 blade.
 

I have the above available if you want to try it. I will sell it at a BRO.
I also have a LH 23" Bravo I 3 blade available BRO.
The boat runs excellent on a 24" Revolution 4.

This one only had one death too;
http://www.cbc.ca/canada/nova-scotia...ing-death.html

I have a 23 Mirage plus you can try but it might not be enough prop.

You really have a 26 LH Bravo 1 4 blade? I would love to test it.. One condition: You go with me?

Seems I'm the only one staying on topic today...this is the Anti Speed Limit thread, no? Let's move the engine/prop talk over to the Boating threads and leave this thread to discussion of the dangers of high speed boating.

This high speed collision had four deaths. The driver was going so fast at night that he didn't even see the anchored barge he smashed into. Wouldn't it have been a coincidence if that barge had been named "Eagle Island" or "Diamond Island"? I bet he coudl have stopped in time if he was only going 25;
http://www.atsb.gov.au/newsroom/2008...e/2008_17.aspx

Well let me see what the 24 does... I haven't even thought of labbing them yet. That can actually get me another 200 RPMS.... I honestly think the 26 labbed would be perfect but that costs like anotehr $800 to do

I think that Bravo 4 blade will work just fine on your boat.

It's a deal!
 

I could use a little Adrenalin rush! :D

I agree.. just have to figure out the right pitch. What is strange is the manufactorer says that below 2002 go with the 24 and 2002 models and above go with the 26. The hull design remained the same but I wonder if that is the year they went from the 500 EFI to the 525 EFI. That might account for the slightly different pitch.