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GBGX2 05-11-2019 05:40 AM

The Dive!
 
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Come down to the Weirs for the Dive’s sophomore season opening!!! We have fire pits and big heaters on and ready to go!

fatlazyless 05-11-2019 05:46 AM

With a two gasoline pump, boat dock that is fueling boats immediately close down below, are these open flame fireplaces and propane flame bug de-buggers safe to use, what with the rising gasoline fumes?

You have open flames and gasoline pumps, side by side ..... is that safe? ...... seems like an unsafe situation!

winni83 05-11-2019 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by fatlazyless (Post 311224)
With a two gasoline pump, boat dock that is fueling boats immediately close down below, are these open flame fireplaces and propane flame bug de-buggers safe to use, what with the rising gasoline fumes?

You have open flames and gasoline pumps, side by side ..... is that safe? ...... seems like an unsafe situation!

Nope. Gasoline fumes do not rise. They are heavier than air and sink..

“Gasoline vapors are denser than air, meaning these vapors will sink and collect at the lowest point. Effective air circulation may help disperse gasoline vapors. An open flame is not necessary to ignite gas vapors; one spark can cause gasoline vapors to ignite.”

fatlazyless 05-11-2019 12:01 PM

.... fire prevention is fire safety!
 
Looking at the gas dock webcam, the estimated distance from the two gas pumps to The Dive is about 10' to 20', and gasoline fumes are subject to the whims of wind and breezes, so any responsible person realizes it is unsafe and is a flash gasoline fire hazard to have these two gas pumps fueling boats so close to The Dive with those two open flame propane fireplaces and two propane flame de-buggers.

Have you ever seen the fire prevention safety signs that say "No :fire:pen Flames" within 50' of a gasoline pump!

This is simply too close for comfort! .... :eek:

Hillcountry 05-11-2019 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by fatlazyless (Post 311234)
Looking at the gas dock webcam, the estimated distance from the two gas pumps to The Dive is about 10' to 20', and gasoline fumes are subject to the whims of wind and breezes, so any responsible person realizes it is unsafe and is a flash gasoline fire hazard to have these two gas pumps fueling boats so close to The Dive with those two open flame propane fireplaces and two propane flame de-buggers.

Have you ever seen the fire prevention safety signs that say "No :fire:pen Flames" within 50' of a gasoline pump!

This is simply too close for comfort! .... :eek:

I agree with FLL...seems like SOME law might be being broken with this setup...

joey2665 05-11-2019 04:36 PM

Before we cast stones at a business trying to make it how about obtaining more information about the actual laws and if the fire pit and heaters are being used while at the dock. I’m sure East Coast Flightcraft who owns the pier would not jeopardize there property and endanger the public.


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The Real BigGuy 05-11-2019 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by fatlazyless (Post 311234)

Have you ever seen the fire prevention safety signs that say "No :fire:pen Flames" within 50' of a gasoline pump!

This is simply too close for comfort! .... :eek:

Yup, seen those. Their talking about fire/open flame on same horizontal plane or lower. Dive’s pits are above, and as previously mentioned gasoline fumes are sinkers. It would Have to be pretty strong contained & vectored wind to have a LEL sufficient to support/sustain combustion (1.4 - 7.6% in air) with an ignition source that far above the pumps.


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Hillcountry 05-11-2019 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by joey2665 (Post 311239)
Before we cast stones at a business trying to make it how about obtaining more information about the actual laws and if the fire pit and heaters are being used while at the dock. I’m sure East Coast Flightcraft who owns the pier would not jeopardize there property and endanger the public.


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I said “seems like”
Not implying any laws are being broken. Just seems unusual to have open flames so near a gas dock.
If we hear a big BOOM some evening...I guess we’ll know.

GBGX2 05-11-2019 06:03 PM

Unbelievable!
 
Hard to imagine a bigger group of “half empty” folks on the entire planet.

How about celebrating a new business and an owner that is working hard to improve both his business model and his clientele’s experience?

Jeeeesh!

fatlazyless 05-11-2019 06:20 PM

Geez ..... I don't know but if you've ever seen gasoline become set on fire, it all happens like very, very fast.

Just looking at the photos on the webcam, the Sept 1, 2018 shows a single red fire extinguisher in the center of the dock, positioned at the white post.

And, looking at today's May 11, 2019 photo, there is no fire extinguisher ..... so there's no fire extinguisher .... there ..... at the gas dock. How safe is that?:eek::eek:

Seems like some gasoline stations have a fire suppression system but maybe that's just in Massachusetts, Maine, Vermont, Connecticut, Rhode Island, New York, and New Jersey and probably is not required in New Hampshire. But, what the heck, for like $25 at Walmart you can get a larger than usual fire extinguisher that could come in very handy, sometime.

Maybe Flightcraft and The Dive can set up a 'go fund me page' and raise the needed $25 to get a decently large fire extinguisher for their gas dock?:rolleye2:

GBGX2 05-11-2019 06:26 PM

I rest my case....
 
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Originally Posted by fatlazyless (Post 311245)
Geez ..... I don't know but if you've ever seen gasoline become set on fire, it all happens like very, very fast.

Just looking at the photos on the webcam, the Sept 1, 2018 shows a single red fire extinguisher in the center of the dock, positioned at the white post.

And, looking at today's May 11, 2019 photo, there is no fire extinguisher ..... so there's no fire extinguisher .... there ..... at the gas dock. How safe is that?:eek::eek:

Thank you....

fatlazyless 05-11-2019 06:32 PM

Instead of resting your case, why not get up off your butt and go get a larger than usual fire extinguisher asap-pdq for the gas dock, there..... all things considered ...... seems like a no-brainer ..... and would be a small first safety step for a gas dock selling gasoline ..... and maybe some 'no smoking' and 'no open flame' signs, as well.

Thank-you!

joey2665 05-11-2019 06:53 PM

The pessimism and potentially damaging assumptions about this business on the thread is incredible.


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Poor Richard 05-11-2019 07:20 PM

Gotta love that Haterade

Hillcountry 05-11-2019 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by joey2665 (Post 311248)
The pessimism and potentially damaging assumptions about this business on the thread is incredible.


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All we’re discussing is open flames near gas pumps...get off your friggin high horse, mr incredible.
No one here has said anything about the dive failing or otherwise.
Purely a safety question. SHEESH!

joey2665 05-11-2019 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Hillcountry (Post 311252)
All we’re discussing is open flames near gas pumps...get off your friggin high horse, mr incredible.

No one here has said anything about the dive failing or otherwise.

Purely a safety question. SHEESH!

Purely BS mr text muscles safety patrol tough guy. Your arrogance is astounding.

If your discussing dock safety at the pump then take it to a different thread. This was started by the dive to inform about its amenities.


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ApS 05-12-2019 03:37 AM

When Have Weirs Docks Ever Had a Serious Fire...?
 
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Purely BS mr text muscles safety patrol tough guy. Your arrogance is astounding. If your discussing dock safety at the pump then
take it to a different thread. This was started by the dive to inform about its amenities.
The thread can be restarted elsewhere starting from reply #2.

Fire safety is serious business. Take it from one who has put out two gasoline fires with fire extinguishers. :eek2: One in an auto repair shop, with an extinguisher I could barely carry—and one in traffic with a 2½-pounder—both totally extinguished. I've also seen two cases where gas pump nozzles have stuck in the open position. :eek:

You can get serious burns just from the "FWOOOOOOOOMP"!

joey2665 05-12-2019 05:51 AM

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Originally Posted by ApS (Post 311257)
The thread can be restarted elsewhere starting from reply #2.

Fire safety is serious business. Take it from one who has put out two gasoline fires with fire extinguishers. :eek2: One in an auto repair shop, with an extinguisher I could barely carry—and one in traffic with a 2½-pounder—both totally extinguished. I've also seen two cases where gas pump nozzles have stuck in the open position. :eek:

You can get serious burns just from the "FWOOOOOOOOMP"!

Thank you APS that was exactly my point.


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pondguy 05-12-2019 06:22 AM

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Originally Posted by joey2665 (Post 311253)
Purely BS mr text muscles safety patrol tough guy. Your arrogance is astounding.

If your discussing dock safety at the pump then take it to a different thread. This was started by the dive to inform about its amenities.


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Making friends everywhere he goes, but does not play well with others ! :rolleye1:

WJT2 05-12-2019 06:33 PM

Dive Kaboom
 
The opening comment and picture looks very nice and inviting. Wish all the best. Is The Dive going to be tied up at this dock for slippage use or is this a dock where passengers will board and come ashore or is going to be a static bar and not leave this dock??? I understand safety concerns but I don't have enough info about The Dives schedule and intended use. Just wondering. Happy Mothers Day to all you deserving Mom's.

chasedawg 05-12-2019 07:19 PM

Dive gas docks
 
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Originally Posted by fatlazyless (Post 311234)
Looking at the gas dock webcam, the estimated distance from the two gas pumps to The Dive is about 10' to 20', and gasoline fumes are subject to the whims of wind and breezes, so any responsible person realizes it is unsafe and is a flash gasoline fire hazard to have these two gas pumps fueling boats so close to The Dive with those two open flame propane fireplaces and two propane flame de-buggers.

Have you ever seen the fire prevention safety signs that say "No :fire:pen Flames" within 50' of a gasoline pump!

This is simply too close for comfort! .... :eek:

I agree with FLL. Until the Fire Marshall and MP says otherwise I will be concerned with anyone near the dock when any kind of open flame. I have seen boats blow up at gas docks over the years with people thinking that would never happen. This to me is a potentially dangerous situation.
Thanks FLL for the alert!

The Real BigGuy 05-13-2019 05:17 AM

You assume the FM & MP have not already give their approvals.


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joey2665 05-13-2019 07:37 AM

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You assume the FM & MP have not already give their approvals.


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I agree. There are a lot of assumptions being made. I can tell you in my experience I have found the Laconia FD to be extremely through in the approval process and their spot inspections.


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garysanfran 05-13-2019 07:52 AM

The Weirs "Live Cam"...
 
Keep it rolling...

Time will tell who's right.

LIforrelaxin 05-13-2019 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by The Real BigGuy (Post 311304)
You assume the FM & MP have not already give their approvals.


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And you assume they have... The problem with a thread like this is that people do to much ASS of U and ME........

I agree there are potential dangers give the proximities... how much, I don't know nor does anyone.... To think otherwise is ignorance.... As for the FM and MP.... if people are really curious, all it takes is a phone call.... or better yet, talk to the Dive, or even east coast flight craft to get a better understanding of what is going on...

The Real BigGuy 05-13-2019 02:23 PM

No, I assume nothing. Just commenting on the negativity. You are the one assuming.


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Outdoorsman 05-13-2019 02:50 PM

I think the biggest assumption here is that Flightcraft has given up dock space at their gas pumps. Unless you are a party that is involved, it is just that, an assumption. Somehow, when people see a topic on "the dive", things just seem to head south (pun intended).

Back on topic.... Hopefully someone will create a thread in the "Restaurant Information & Reviews" category that actually discusses the food. :rolleye2:

LIforrelaxin 05-13-2019 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Outdoorsman (Post 311365)
I think the biggest assumption here is that Flightcraft has given up dock space at their gas pumps. Unless you are a party that is involved, it is just that, an assumption. Somehow, when people see a topic on "the dive", things just seem to head south (pun intended).

Back on topic.... Hopefully someone will create a thread in the "Restaurant Information & Reviews" category that actually discusses the food. :rolleye2:

Whether a thread gets starting in the Resturant section, or not, I have heard all types of reviews... Good and Bad, I think it is a matter of what you are expecting. They are what they are, I wouldn't expect anything fancy, but that is just me... Whether the review be good or bad, the common thread of all reviews seems to be around price.... Once again, I would expect the priciness of the joint, given what it is... Bottom line I don't think it is that bad of a place, if you take it for what it is...

As for threads on the Dive, heading south all the time. What do you expect? It is a huge change for this lake a floating night club. People are not going to be on the fence about it, they are going to either be for it, or against it... Just like the debates we have had on this forum, about no rafting regulations, no wake zones, and speed limits. Some people can except that other peoples views are different some can not.

I agree that it would seem foolish for the Dive, to stay where it is and block the gas dock. But time will tell. The hope may be that most weekends she will go out, who knows, it is all speculation at this point. But isn't that what makes the country great, being able to speculate? Have fun disagreeing? As long as it doesn't go to far, it is all in good fun.... This is online chatting take it to seriously and feelings get hurt... take it for what it is harmless conversation and it is enjoyable...

SAMIAM 05-14-2019 06:12 AM

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Originally Posted by LIforrelaxin (Post 311380)
Whether a thread gets starting in the Resturant section, or not, I have heard all types of reviews... Good and Bad, I think it is a matter of what you are expecting. They are what they are, I wouldn't expect anything fancy, but that is just me... Whether the review be good or bad, the common thread of all reviews seems to be around price.... Once again, I would expect the priciness of the joint, given what it is... Bottom line I don't think it is that bad of a place, if you take it for what it is...

As for threads on the Dive, heading south all the time. What do you expect? It is a huge change for this lake a floating night club. People are not going to be on the fence about it, they are going to either be for it, or against it... Just like the debates we have had on this forum, about no rafting regulations, no wake zones, and speed limits. Some people can except that other peoples views are different some can not.

I agree that it would seem foolish for the Dive, to stay where it is and block the gas dock. But time will tell. The hope may be that most weekends she will go out, who knows, it is all speculation at this point. But isn't that what makes the country great, being able to speculate? Have fun disagreeing? As long as it doesn't go to far, it is all in good fun.... This is online chatting take it to seriously and feelings get hurt... take it for what it is harmless conversation and it is enjoyable...

Well said.......seems like its the purpose of the forum for everyone to express their views

webmaster 05-16-2019 01:18 PM

I just saw them move The Dive from the gas dock to the end of the pier itself. I thought it might end up there.

Best of all, we've got the view of the Mount back:

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garysanfran 05-16-2019 03:46 PM

Happenin' right now...
 
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Wonder what this is about? Attached to Anthony's...I hope it's friendly...

fatlazyless 05-16-2019 03:54 PM

.... The Dive moves to the left
 
This seems like an excellent new spot .... away from the Flightcraft marina and water ski school ..... away from the rental dock spaces ..... away from the gasoline dock .... away from the Mount Washington .... with good access(?) through The Pier bringing in potential customers to other Pier businesses .... so, that makes it a win-win-win-win-win ..... that's right ..... a 5-win move, right here in Weirs Beach ...... 5-wins ... :eek:!

That should be a very glamorous location for the people on-board The Dive, there, because it's out on the open water and should catch the setting sun rays shining down across the big, open water..... there ..... just like out on a boat

What a totally fabulous ..... genius, even ..... new spot for The Dive at The Pier at Flighcraft on Lake Winnipesaukee, New Hampshire, USA!

Today is Thursday, May 16, 2019! ...... and that's the way it is ..... here, along the docks at Weirs Beach, NH.

webmaster 05-17-2019 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by garysanfran (Post 311634)
Wonder what this is about? Attached to Anthony's...I hope it's friendly...

There is open space and a separate entrance under Anthony's and the arcade that could be used to board The Dive. I doubt that Anthony's is involved except that they may lose some customers!

AC2717 05-17-2019 08:09 AM

I hope that is not where it is staying, what a terrible location for everyone. Go back to the dock

fatlazyless 05-17-2019 03:17 PM

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I hope that is not where it is staying, what a terrible location for everyone. Go back to the dock

So, why do you say that? I drove down to it today, and took a look, and can see how the nearby residential homes on Simpson Ave MAY(?) be upset with it clogging up their view, but for everyone else, the Mount Washington and the people on-board The Dive and the boaters who position close by ..... it seems excellent. And, who knows, maybe the local residents really like it there ...... is possible ....after all ....it is The Weirs?

For the people on-board The Dive and the boats nearby, positioned close, and waiting to get on ..... it seems like a great spot. Will boaters be able to drop anchor and get rowed on-board by a valet row boat? From that location, people on board should get a real good dose of the beautiful setting sun streaming down the big long length of Meredith Bay, there, just like out on a boat.

Plus, it gets the freebie advertising advantage of being very close up, showing on the Weirs Cam, which is huge for publicity. You probably cannot buy publicity like this, and The Dive gets it for free. Similarly, do you the viewer, think it is clogging up the web cam shot, or is it a welcome addition sort of like a big fat spider, very up close, on the camera lens?

AC2717 05-17-2019 07:05 PM

location wise and sticking off the pier and blocking the view from Anthony's. Don't see how they are allowed to dock like that.

Not complaining cause it does not affect my view or life, nor business, but it seems very odd to do it that way, why not leave it where it pulled in, still had gas docks all accessible and was tucked in nice and protected. Hope it is marked at night

The Real BigGuy 05-18-2019 07:18 AM

Sticking out like that, won’t they get slammed by the Wiers boat chop?


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joey2665 05-18-2019 07:33 AM

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Originally Posted by The Real BigGuy (Post 311770)
Sticking out like that, won’t they get slammed by the Wiers boat chop?


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Certainly will especially on weekends and holidays. Maybe on busier days they will venture to the sand bars to drum up business


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joey2665 05-20-2019 10:50 AM

New overhead photos of their current location

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Andromeda321 05-20-2019 11:08 AM

It does make the Weirs Cam more entertaining at its current location- looked completely packed on Sunday afternoon!


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