Summer Accidents
WOW, what a crazy busy summer for accidents on Winnipesaukee.
Not looking to stir the pot, just noting that its interesting that they all seem to involve common sense and basic boating and navigation skills, and that all the new laws and restrictions didn’t seem to help prevent these unfortunate events. Also interesting to note that some of the operators most likely have the basic boating and navigation skills and should have had common sense, so it could be just unfortunate lapses in judgment and maybe a bit of luck of the draw. Not too much more to say except be careful out there,,, |
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Common sense and solid boating skills, including navagation, is what it is all about. The folks in Concord can be dubbed into making laws that will improve "boating safety", but in fact, the lake is no more safe today than it was two years ago. The people of NH might think the elected officials "fixed" a problem, but in reality, you cannot legislate common sense. I believe a very experienced captain was at the helm of the "Lady Go Diva" today and still we had this result. I do not remember when the most recent "planting" of a GFBL boat onto the Witches occurred. In addition, many jumped onto the band-wagon of the "unspeakable law" when a certain female operator hit Diamond Island in very poor boating conditions. Today, in the middle of the day, with very clear visibility, in a well-known dangerous area, with good marking based upon the current laws, and look what happened, again with a very experienced operator at the helm! Folks, accidents do happen and you cannot legislate common sense or safe boating solely by restricting sp_ed. Time to rethink "boating safety in NH" based upon things that actually occur, like today's accident on the Witches, and not on biased and politically-generated hype. Again, thank God no one was injured in today's accident. R2B |
Two boats sinking or capsized, a near head-on collision, 4 drownings in May. Sometimes they come in bunches, which is why statistics should be looked at over the long term. And when looked at that way, a pretty great record.
Was noise involved? |
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Lets hope the worst is behind us for this year,,, |
Also just thinking how stressful such events are on the folks who are involved,,,
As a friendly reminder to everyone, if something doesn’t look right stop for just a moment and take a look at whats going on, where you are, and make sure all is as it should be. And wherever possible, be sure to lend a hand, nothing worse that having people passing buy when your boat is not running or maybe something worse,,, When it comes to the types of accidents we have seen this year a helping hand can be the difference between a saved life and one lost. It only takes a minute to stop and check if something doesn’t look quite right, and you will never miss the time lost out of your day if there was no problem, but it must seem like an eternity when you’re the one waiting for help. |
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By comparison, last year was like a ghost town. Even the two 1/2 weeks of good weather last summer were pretty tame. But given the accidents on Winni this summer, I don't think any could be linked to anything more than bad luck and/or inattention. Would not be a good year to look at statistics. |
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That is the intent of statistics, to view final numbers and see if there is a correlation between rising and falling numbers. I think the message from boating accidents this year is "don't do that". Not much else you can do, except repeat the message. |
Interesting perspective
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Remember the peace and tranquility of summer 09?
It is truely a far cry from last summer when "[It] really made a huge difference
in returning civility to boating on Lake Winnipesaukee..." (LaDaSun 2/22/10). IMHO - most of the incidents this year are due to a lack of education and/or common sense. I know many visitors that come to the lake either ignore or are simply ignorant to the certification requirements. Unfortunately, the resources are just not there for enforcement. |
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You can't resist, Mr. Signature Censored, throwing one one hand grenade into the discussion. As an officer of Winniopposition/SBONH, you should take the higher road. I rest my case. |
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Sounds good Max
We should be starting trail work parties soon for the Moultonborough Club. Hopefully we will have a good snow season based on the summer weather!
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Actually one of the best snowmobile day trips I have had in years was a grand tour of Winnipesaukee 2 years ago. Met David531 from this site that day up in Wolfboro and he guided us around the north side of the lake and took us back to his house for refeshments. It really made it a day to remember. David is a real class act, sure glad to be sharing Winnipesaukee with him (frozen or liquid!) Looking forward to another tour on the lake when it looks like a winter wonderland. But then again maybe not just yet,,, or as they all say, all things in due time,,, Hope to hook up with you when it is sledding season. :) |
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Vita-Bene let me know when you start to do trail work, with enough notice I might be able to help out a bit, especially if it involves whapping trees down. Any excuse to use my chainsaw is a good one! |
Nothing Against Snow, But...
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But—as one who doesn't even own a cell phone—a read-up in this month's Popular Science is illuminating: If you use your cellphone while driving, "you're not using common sense". Quote:
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2) Last season, we had an active "Blizzard" court case to keep lesser (but otherwise-newsworthy) Winnipesaukee news stories off the front pages. 3) Yet now, so far in the year 2010, the effects of the many sunny days can be witnessed by one's tanning abilities! :coolsm: This effect didn't show up (on me) even after one entire 2009 boating season—as reported here during all of August and September...! http://www.winnipesaukee.com/forums/...2&postcount=51 Not to take away from the crash, but after all, this year's night-collision involved quite a crowd in one boat—was it eight aboard one boat—or eleven?) :eek: With only one injured, this suggests that the impact wasn't quite what we'd read about. :rolleye2: You may recall that running aground wasn't limited to The Witches last year. Maybe a name-change to something more sinister is needed there? :rolleye2: |
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Again, you will stop at nothing to take a shot at SBONH.org. I'm neither an officer nor an owner of a GF boat, so again, you're comments are misguided. |
Let's Correct The Record...
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But Director Barrett said this summer had a huge amount of boat traffic, and many fewer accidents. Arrests for alcohol were way up, perhaps due to night enforcements using a new tool in the NHMP quiver. :rolleye2: And we've just completed a full and busy season. :look: |
Winnipesaukee continues to be safe...
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The Lake is safe, continues to be safe and always was safe. Even in the years of the highest accident statistics, the numbers are insignificant given the handful of accidents and deaths/injuries versus the hundreds of thousands of boaters plying the Lake every summer. Yes, the Lake gets crowded, weather cooperating, on at best 10 to 12 weekends a year. And if you boat in the areas of high concentrations it can get aggravating at times. But boating on Winni is one of the safest things you can do with your family while enjoying the summer in New Hampshire. Geesh Bob...when is the last time you and I wholeheartedly agreed on a post? :D |
54 Years ON Lake Winnipesaukee Gives Perspective...
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1) I'd always taken great pride watching NH boaters removing flood debris from an otherwise pristine Lake Winnipesaukee and putting it inside their own boats. :look: That still occurs, but with the delicate graphics, hand-rubbed gelcoat polishings and white vinyl bolsters of too many visiting boaters, it's hardly becoming a widespread practice. :rolleye2: 2) For 46 consecutive summers, living lakeside at the same spot on Lake Winnipesaukee one would expect a different perspective. On August 08, 2002—with a letter to the editor—I called it right. :cool: :rolleye1: :eek2: :( :( The title, "Anarchy and Mayhem" did reflect the unhappy condition that reigned too long on these waters: "Noise and Action" actually appeared as a Winnipesaukee headline in a major New Hampshire newspaper. (And at the forum). 3) Putting out "The Unwelcome Mat" seems to have moderated visitors whose recent inland-waters attitude was contrary to what I'd seen all those years on Lake Winnipesaukee—directly before me, my extended family and guests. :eek2: At the same time, I was privy to the same boats on "big-water" off Florida's sandy coastlines. We don't have sandy shorelines to catch our navigational errors here—and nothing approaches the "big-water" there. :rolleye1: When some boats on our inland waters rival military boats in appearance and performance, one can expect a gloomy assessment by residents. :eek2: With all the paint, show, pretense, and noise, "stolen valor" comes to mind. :( 4) Navigation spars were made of wood just ten years ago: many of those wooden spars soared high above the heads of most boats' captains. :eek: Just ten years ago, nobody complained of "not-seeing" Winnipesaukee's wood spars, which would lean-over alarmingly! :eek2: Waterlogged, they were like "dead-heads"—or even dull lances pointed at the gunwales of Winnipesaukee's over-sized boats. :( Colliding with those waterlogged spars must have been a wake-up call to our visiting boaters. As the years progressed, a growing number of spars were "made invisible" by breaking-off through collisions: Today, Maine's H&H Propeller service actually operates a delivery shuttle service that brings a brisk and booming replacement-propeller business to Lake Winnipesaukee's boat dealers. *Shrug*. When the majority of boats on the lake were wooden boats, you didn't take the chance of making splinters with those wood markers—that were not unlike telephone poles—anchored in large numbers around Lake Winnipesaukee. :eek: 5) I would never say that the lake has always been safe: it's a scenic lake with recently-added distractions—that hadn't included gauges and electronics that glow—to rob one's night-vision. :( Future Winnipesaukee headlines should be less unnerving to us but you can count on some boater about to make headlines. :rolleye1: |
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Would one of your dull headed lances do a number on a lake vistor's undersized:eek: vessel? The only boats that I have seen on this lake that look like military boats are the MP's Rigid Inflatable Boats.::rolleye2: I think you should start petitioning to have the oversized and overpowered Mt Washington banished from this lake:eek2: This lake will never be "safe". It was not safe when the Algonquins paddled across the broads long before a non-native American set foot upon this land. We can only strive to make the lake safer through education and enforcement of the law.:eek: |
Enforcement of the law ! Just like our enforcement of the highway laws ?
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100% enforcement is impossible, but I think most people that drive in NH realize the SP or local departments are pretty vigilant (I do live in Moultonboro, famous for the gauntlet!). |
Military-Enough?
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Each wood spar was a "silent sentinel" on every boater after dark—PVC, not so much. Quote:
Another appeared recently in The U.S. Naval Institute's publication of Proceedings, a monthly periodical. The issue reviews just one poor Caribbean country's interdiction fleet—featuring one of eight similar patrol boats—made by Nor-Tech. Quote:
Isn't that "military"? :confused: Here's the foreign-Navy vessel that threatened a U.S. Navy vessel: |
There you go again...
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While Vitabene and I might have a difference of opinion on the term safety, it is definitely not an argument. Its unfortunate that you can't seem to grasp the difference of two adults having a difference of opinion on a subject and moving on, versus continually arguing the same point ad nauseum. I must admit that in the Land of Bickerers, you remain King. :rolleye2: But no, Vitabene and I have no argument here. We are just two adults with a different point of view that express opinions and then move on. You should try it some time! :) |
"Summer Accidents" Debunked by NHMP...
We could move on, but when views are diametrically opposed, it's hardly "bickering".
I view Lake Winnipesaukee's surface 7 days a week, yet I agree with VitaBene on "safety"—as I stated: Quote:
Safer boating took place this year when incredibly good weather should have produced the usual increase in boating mishaps. Patting the backs of the NHMP doesn't cut it with me: they do a decent job, but credit for "safe waters" goes to boating education and an increasing familiarity with New Hampshire's boating rules. "Dropping off-plane" seems to have been too much trouble for some captains—and occasional exceptions did occur—but let's not forget that a reduction in numbers of the "usual suspects" occurred when The Unwelcome Mat was put out. :cool: |
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Also, it appears that NWZ's don't apply to the pilots working for CruiseNH. About a month ago, we watched either the Doris E. or Sophie C. cruise through the same NWZ at what was probably their normal cruising speed but that still creates a pretty good wake. I know because we were IN that NWZ when they went through and their wake had us wallowing in the water pretty good as we went through at NWS. Quote:
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I believe that the Mount also does not alter speed in no wake areas - but it's not really a big deal because her wake is virtually non-existent. |
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