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Marine Patrol 08-02-2020 11:44 AM

Tropical Storm Isaias
 
The NH State Police, Marine Patrol Unit wants to remind a New Hampshire shorefront property owner that now is the time to prepare for the possible impacts of Tropical Storm Isaias.

Current forecasts suggest that NH will likely experience impacts from Isaias Tuesday night and Wednesday. Heavy rain and high winds are likely and can pose unexpected consequences.

To insure the safety of you and your property, Marine Patrol urges people to consider the following:

Boats:

Secure your boats to docks and moorings with extra lines and be sure your boat has enough “slack” to ride large waves without jerking or snapping lines.

Automatic bilge pumps are often wired directly to your battery. Heavy rains often drain batteries of their power resulting in boats sinking at the dock. Please cover your boat with a mooring cover if one is available. Check your boat often!

Consider docking your boat with the bow facing the waves. Large waves hitting the stern of a docked boat can quickly fill the boat causing it to sink. Be sure you have adequate water depth beneath your boat during heavy wave conditions.

Mooring chains that have not been checked are often chafed close to the mooring anchor where they experience constant movement. Storms of this significance will easily break worn chains and mooring tackle resulting in boats being thrown against the shoreline.

Secure canoes, kayaks, paddle boards and rowboats. Simply pulling these smaller boats onto the beach is not enough! Remove them from the water and place them away from the beach where they can’t be reached by high tides or lake waves.

Personal Safety and Emergency Response:

Remember, when storms are severe enough on NH’s lakes and seacoast, access to docks and shorefront property can be delayed or in some cases, impossible. If you have a medical history that might require the services of emergency responders, consider a stay on the mainland during the storm.

Be sure to have a supply of medications and provisions in the event of a power outage or access to the mainland is cut-off for the duration of the storm.

Please know that the priority for Marine Patrol and other Emergency Services during these types of weather events is life-safety. We will not be able to assist with drifting boats, boats on the rocks, or non-emergency transportation of persons to/from islands when conditions jeopardize the safety of our personnel or equipment.

In the event of an emergency, Marine Patrol can be reached by calling 9-1-1.

chasedawg 08-02-2020 02:03 PM

Isaias winds
 
The long range forecast I have seen that winds will be SW 233 degrees with gusts at 40MPH. Most people have their docks and moorings set for winds coming out of the N/NW. Winds coming out of the SSW could expose those that have open water from the S/SW. Rain amounts are being reported 3-4". This seems to happen at Tuesday night which makes it more difficult to be able to see and tell what is happening on the waterfront.

Take precautions as the MP suggest.

Be safe.....

ApS 08-03-2020 05:47 PM

No Trailer?
 
Canoes, kayaks and rowboats which have no trailers can benefit from a Florida hurricane trick—which is to partially fill the boat with water. This weighs the boat against blowing away. Even trailered boats can benefit, should local winds be stronger than predicted.

Heavy rains could add too much water, so positioning the boat (or transom drain) to allow overflowing will prevent possible structural damage.

codeman671 08-03-2020 09:15 PM

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We headed up to the island tonight to turn our boats bow out and add more lines. If it does come out of the east or north east we could get clobbered, so we weren’t taking chances.

upthesaukee 08-03-2020 09:43 PM

Oops
 
Hate it when the picture looks great except when it gets posted here. Happens more times than I care to remember and admit.

On a positive note, looks like no matter how much rain we get, it will run right out of your boat. (Nice boat, btw.)

Dave

8gv 08-03-2020 10:56 PM

Wait, did the storm already go by?

It looks like it flipped those boats! :)

steve-on-mark 08-04-2020 04:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by codeman671 (Post 340581)
We headed up to the island tonight to turn our boats bow out and add more lines. If it does come out of the east or north east we could get clobbered, so we weren’t taking chances.

If these boats were docked at a South Pole lakehouse, I could understand this perspective .

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codeman671 08-04-2020 05:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by steve-on-mark (Post 340593)
If these boats were docked at a South Pole lakehouse, I could understand this perspective .

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It’s an iPhone thing.... couldn’t fix it on a mobile device.
I was fully expecting the commentary though!

ApS 08-04-2020 06:23 AM

Keys to Flip Over...
 
My laptop will flip the image [upright] using three keys at the same time:
H, Shift, and Ctrl.

dippasan 08-04-2020 06:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by codeman671 (Post 340596)
It’s an iPhone thing.... couldn’t fix it on a mobile device.
I was fully expecting the commentary though!

Supposed to be bow towards the waves not keel towards the sky :D

webmaster 08-04-2020 06:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by upthesaukee (Post 340582)
Hate it when the picture looks great except when it gets posted here. Happens more times than I care to remember and admit.

It's not just this site:

https://www.howtogeek.com/254830/why...ectly-rotated/

(I rotated Codeman's picture)

upthesaukee 08-04-2020 08:19 AM

Bad choice of words
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by webmaster (Post 340612)
It's not just this site:

https://www.howtogeek.com/254830/why...ectly-rotated/

(I rotated Codeman's picture)

Webmaster, bad choice of words on my part. This is the only forum I post on, and when posting from a mobile device, sometimes the pictures stand on its side or on its head, but not all the time. Didn't mean to imply it was this site's problem. Sorry.

Interesting link, even if it is over my head. :confused: :D

Dave

steve-on-mark 08-04-2020 09:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by codeman671 (Post 340596)
It’s an iPhone thing.... couldn’t fix it on a mobile device.
I was fully expecting the commentary though!

It's what we do....[emoji6]

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ishoot308 08-04-2020 03:43 PM

Looking at my radar app, it appears the majority of the storm is heading west of of us. Looks like we will barely get hit...

Dan

thinkxingu 08-04-2020 03:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ishoot308 (Post 340703)
Looking at my radar app, it appears the majority of the storm is heading west of of us. Looks like we will barely get hit...

Dan

I've been watching the radar all day and there's been barely a blip at Arcadia. In fact, the first rain just started a few minutes ago.

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ishoot308 08-04-2020 04:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thinkxingu (Post 340707)
I've been watching the radar all day and there's been barely a blip at Arcadia. In fact, the first rain just started a few minutes ago.

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Same here on Welch. Wind out of the southeast, I’m on leeward side so all calm here. Just started to rain...

Dan

TiltonBB 08-04-2020 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by webmaster (Post 340612)
It's not just this site:

https://www.howtogeek.com/254830/why...ectly-rotated/

(I rotated Codeman's picture)

When I saw that this morning I thought "Don will fix that picture" but I didn't want to assume anything. What a great Webmaster!!

thinkxingu 08-04-2020 05:38 PM

Getting hit pretty hard now. I just came back from dinner at the Bob House, where the lights were flickering the whole time I enjoyed my BBQ flatbread and sweet Thai chili wings!

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Winilyme 08-04-2020 05:46 PM

Same here
 
Branches coming down, lots of white water but we still have power here on Spindle Point. Beautiful view looking south right now. White and gray clouds and large blue sky openings with sun. Very unusual.

Jdarby 08-04-2020 05:51 PM

Power on Long Island but Spectrum cable went down....but heck that happens even without a Tropical Storm!


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ApS 08-04-2020 06:33 PM

Strong SE Winds in Wolfeboro...
 
If anyone is missing any "water toys", they'll be found on Moultonborough shorelines! :eek2:

ishoot308 08-04-2020 06:35 PM

We just had a 45 mph wind gust here on Welch. Not much rain at all just wind...

Power just went out on Welch....

Dan

MDoug 08-04-2020 07:07 PM

Storm and Power Outage
 
Anybody else lose power on Bear just now?

Biggd 08-04-2020 07:14 PM

I never made it up this past weekend and when I left Meredith a week ago I left all the water toys, not in the water but out at the shore, Kayaks, paddle board, all the paddles, and water floats.
I would expect the water floats to be long gone. :(

upthesaukee 08-04-2020 07:21 PM

Nhec
 
At 815pm,NHEC is experiencing over 29,000 outages or just over 1/3 of their coverage.
Lakes Region mutual Fire has 60 open calls right now, mainly trees and or wires down.

Dave

TheProfessor 08-04-2020 07:31 PM

On/Off power outage here. Multiple times.

Got my computer backup battery/surge protector.

LINK

panther 08-04-2020 08:32 PM

We still have power but spent quite a while today turning boats bow out and securing with extra lines but we're getting smashed hard here in Moultonborough facing south. I did everything I could but have finally given up and decided I may have to give Flo a call tomorrow.

MAXUM 08-04-2020 08:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MDoug (Post 340738)
Anybody else lose power on Bear just now?

Power is out on the NE side of the island. Have heard a lot of trees coming down in the woods out back. Been a bit of a wild afternoon.

Hillcountry 08-04-2020 08:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by upthesaukee (Post 340742)
At 815pm,NHEC is experiencing over 29,000 outages or just over 1/3 of their coverage.
Lakes Region mutual Fire has 60 open calls right now, mainly trees and or wires down.

Dave

And Eversource has 80,000 out in NH

GTO 08-04-2020 09:22 PM

Very rough
 
Lake was as rough as I have ever seen it. Wave after wave coming over the top of the dock. Spent a couple of hours on the dock securing ropes on boats and replacing broken ones.. It would calm down for a few minutes and then the wind would kick back up and start the whole thing again

WinnisquamZ 08-04-2020 09:55 PM

Same here on the north end of Winnisquam. Two lines per plus whips. Boat is rocking and pushing forward. Hopefully everything holds till morning


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codeman671 08-04-2020 10:08 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ishoot308 (Post 340703)
Looking at my radar app, it appears the majority of the storm is heading west of of us. Looks like we will barely get hit...

Dan

We got crushed on East Bear. The dock pic from yesterday looks a lot different now. I checked my cameras at 5:30pm and saw it crumbling with our boats on it. Mad rush up to Gilford and a nasty ride out to Bear. I was expecting both boats to be a total loss by the time we got there.
The Yamaha seemed to be fine and the dock crumbled right behind me as I pulled out. Went back for the Eastern and barely got that off. Some gel oat damage but it could have been worse.
Dock is a total loss.

Here are some probably upside down pics:

ishoot308 08-05-2020 02:07 AM

Sorry to hear that Codeman....hopefully your boat damage is minimal.

My Eastern got swamped at my dock also at around 11:00 PM. The storm was well Northwest of us by that time but the wind picked up and we ended up with some massive waves. Took one over the stern and she got swamped. Luckily I was there and with the help of some wonderful island neighbors we saved the main brand new motor from going under...the 9.9 kicker wasn’t so lucky! Just finished pumping her out. Will pull her out in a few hours to inspect hull for damage...

Dan

MDoug 08-05-2020 04:08 AM

Storm and Power
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MAXUM (Post 340746)
Power is out on the NE side of the island. Have heard a lot of trees coming down in the woods out back. Been a bit of a wild afternoon.

Anybody on West Bear have power?

Hillcountry 08-05-2020 04:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ishoot308 (Post 340756)
Sorry to hear that Codeman....hopefully your boat damage is minimal.

My Eastern got swamped at my dock also at around 11:00 PM. The storm was well Northwest of us by that time but the wind picked up and we ended up with some massive waves. Took one over the stern and she got swamped. Luckily I was there and with the help of some wonderful island neighbors we saved the main brand new motor from going under...the 9.9 kicker wasn’t so lucky! Just finished pumping her out. Will pull her out in a few hours to inspect hull for damage...

Dan

Wow! Sorry to hear Dan! From a “seemingly” uneventful storm there sure is a lot of damage and outages out there! Glad you saved the new motor! Good luck the rest of the way!

Hillcountry 08-05-2020 04:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by codeman671 (Post 340753)
We got crushed on East Bear. The dock pic from yesterday looks a lot different now. I checked my cameras at 5:30pm and saw it crumbling with our boats on it. Mad rush up to Gilford and a nasty ride out to Bear. I was expecting both boats to be a total loss by the time we got there.
The Yamaha seemed to be fine and the dock crumbled right behind me as I pulled out. Went back for the Eastern and barely got that off. Some gel oat damage but it could have been worse.
Dock is a total loss.

Here are some probably upside down pics:

Man oh man...glad you were able to save the boats! Best of luck with the dock...that was brutal, no doubt!

steve-on-mark 08-05-2020 04:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by codeman671 (Post 340753)
We got crushed on East Bear. The dock pic from yesterday looks a lot different now. I checked my cameras at 5:30pm and saw it crumbling with our boats on it. Mad rush up to Gilford and a nasty ride out to Bear. I was expecting both boats to be a total loss by the time we got there.
The Yamaha seemed to be fine and the dock crumbled right behind me as I pulled out. Went back for the Eastern and barely got that off. Some gel oat damage but it could have been worse.
Dock is a total loss.

Here are some probably upside down pics:

Those are crazy pictures...amazing that the boats survived!

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codeman671 08-05-2020 05:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by steve-on-mark (Post 340760)
Those are crazy pictures...amazing that the boats survived!

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It was nuts. It was all Kathy, Sherry and I could do to even secure the Yamaha to the mail dock. Mike was circling in his boat. Lake Life is going to look at the dock today to see what is left and will try to rebuild it.

thinkxingu 08-05-2020 07:05 AM

Good luck with the damage Codeman and iShoot—I hope they turn out to be quick and easy. Like my dad used to say, though: "you can fix metal, but you can't fix flesh." Glad you're all safe.

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8gv 08-05-2020 08:17 AM

I'm sorry to see such boat and dock carnage.

The insurance should help but the downtime and aggravation makes it worse.

The already busy dock and fiberglass repair folks will be slammed from this event.

But as others have said, nobody got hurt.

There were boats and docks before and there will be boats and docks again.

VitaBene 08-05-2020 08:21 AM

Good luck to all
 
I flew out of MHT yesterday afternoon for NC, must have lucked into a weather window. I thought for sure they would cancel the flight.

This is the first time I am glad my boat was out of the water getting repaired!

Hope everyone's cleanup goes well, be safe!

codeman671 08-05-2020 09:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ishoot308 (Post 340756)
Sorry to hear that Codeman....hopefully your boat damage is minimal.

My Eastern got swamped at my dock also at around 11:00 PM. The storm was well Northwest of us by that time but the wind picked up and we ended up with some massive waves. Took one over the stern and she got swamped. Luckily I was there and with the help of some wonderful island neighbors we saved the main brand new motor from going under...the 9.9 kicker wasn’t so lucky! Just finished pumping her out. Will pull her out in a few hours to inspect hull for damage...

Dan

Lucky you were there! We put our Eastern on the trailer last night around 9pm to get it out of harms way.

MDoug 08-05-2020 11:00 AM

Bear Power
 
There's a tree on the lines behind 315 Bear, according to our neighbor at 321 Bear. Called the outage line for Nh electric, and Sharon said she's made a note of it for the crew. The downed tree caused power outages at camps from 315 Bear north along the shore.

P-3 Guy 08-05-2020 11:08 AM

Gas Available?
 
Can anyone report if Shep's or Y Landing is pumping gas? Need fuel for possible extended generator use...

radioman 08-05-2020 12:00 PM

storm
 
Tried to call SB, got nothing but busy signal. 1 pm

radioman 08-05-2020 12:33 PM

storm
 
Y landing has phone issues as well. Not a good sign

Nautique2001 08-05-2020 12:38 PM

Gas Available?
 
My son was at Brown's this morning.

Their power was out, so couldn't pump gas. He was told power was out all along the Neck, so that doesn't bode well for Y Landing either.

LIforrelaxin 08-05-2020 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by codeman671 (Post 340761)
It was nuts. It was all Kathy, Sherry and I could do to even secure the Yamaha to the mail dock. Mike was circling in his boat. Lake Life is going to look at the dock today to see what is left and will try to rebuild it.

codeman, thanks for sharing your story. Glad you where able to get up there start rescuing your boats. Hopefully a temporary repair can be made to the dock to get you back in business quick....

Slickcraft 08-05-2020 01:00 PM

We took the Eastern back into Fay's for the storm, lucky we did. Our dock is two to the south from Dan's and more exposed to the wind. Talked to Dan in person this morning while he was still cleaning up his Eastern. He was real lucky to have island neighbors come over to help bail the boat.

The power is still off on the north side of Welch. Prior to losing power our weather station showed 45 mph like Dan's. That was SE wind wrapping around to the west side of Walch. No idea what it was when it shifted around to the SW.

Alan

P-3 Guy 08-05-2020 01:16 PM

NHEC Outages
 
Just got an email from NHEC reporting that 37,000 of their customers, or about 40%, are without power. I'm thinking that for some of those customers, power will be out for at least a few days.

codeman671 08-05-2020 01:27 PM

I am completely blown away. My dock was wrecked last night, but by 1:30pm Lake Life Services already had it pulled apart put back together! Talk about service!

8gv 08-05-2020 01:37 PM

A friend in need is a friend indeed...

ishoot308 08-05-2020 02:17 PM

Damage
 
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Here’s a pic of my brother in laws pontoon barge that got hell beat out of it in the storm. As you can see, the dock line even with snubbers ripped the entire back cap off the pontoon where it attaches. That’s the back cap in the second picture. After the boat broke free it hit their new Bennington Q series pontoon that I just sold them a month ago. Damaged the entire side of one toon. They are on the east side of Lockes island.

Descant note....even with the entire back cap ripped off, the pontoon remained afloat and I was able to tow it to shore. Only the back compartment was compromised...

Dan

ishoot308 08-05-2020 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by codeman671 (Post 340819)
I am completely blown away. My dock was wrecked last night, but by 1:30pm Lake Life Services already had it pulled apart put back together! Talk about service!

Cody is great! I have used him for some barge service. Very fair and keeps in touch!

Dan

codeman671 08-05-2020 02:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ishoot308 (Post 340821)
Here’s a pic of my brother in laws pontoon barge that got hell beat out of it in the storm. As you can see, the dock line even with snubbers ripped the entire back cap off the pontoon where it attaches. That’s the back cap in the second picture. After the boat broke free it hit their new Bennington Q series pontoon that I just sold them a month ago. Damaged the entire side of one toon. They are on the east side of Lockes island.

Descant note....even with the entire back cap ripped off, the pontoon remained afloat and I was able to tow it to shore. Only the back compartment was compromised...

Dan

I have never seen that happen!

Slickcraft 08-05-2020 03:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ishoot308 (Post 340821)
Here’s a pic of my brother in laws pontoon barge that got hell beat out of it in the storm. As you can see, the dock line even with snubbers ripped the entire back cap off the pontoon where it attaches. That’s the back cap in the second picture. After the boat broke free it hit their new Bennington Q series pontoon that I just sold them a month ago. Damaged the entire side of one toon. They are on the east side of Lockes island.

Descant note....even with the entire back cap ripped off, the pontoon remained afloat and I was able to tow it to shore. Only the back compartment was compromised...

Dan

Very sorry to see that. They are such nice hardworking people.

Alan

tis 08-05-2020 03:52 PM

So very sorry you guys got hit so hard. And I am upset about branches all over the place. I will say no more!

Dad sold the C * C 08-05-2020 05:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ishoot308 (Post 340821)
Here’s a pic of my brother in laws pontoon barge that got hell beat out of it in the storm. As you can see, the dock line even with snubbers ripped the entire back cap off the pontoon where it attaches. That’s the back cap in the second picture. After the boat broke free it hit their new Bennington Q series pontoon that I just sold them a month ago. Damaged the entire side of one toon. They are on the east side of Lockes island.

Descant note....even with the entire back cap ripped off, the pontoon remained afloat and I was able to tow it to shore. Only the back compartment was compromised...

Dan

Dan, was the dock line connected to the back cap and you think the edge got bashed enough for the cap to pull off?

I'm asking because I put an extra line from my rear cap to the dock. I keep it loose as it's there only if another line fails. From the photo my neighbor sent I think it helped me because the post with the line that prevents the boat going forward tilted quite a bit. ( I have whips and snubbers for lateral movement and hard line for forward / backward movement. I may try snubbers on the hard lines.

RUGMAN 08-05-2020 05:23 PM

Do people think that having a boat on a mooring vs dock would fair better, I was lucky, I had my tritoon pulled out monday for repairs, otherwise it would have been on my mooring.

WinnisquamZ 08-05-2020 05:34 PM

Dock dependent. Permanent docks with whips work. Seasonal docks, can’t see it working with yesterday’s storm. Will be investing in a lift this off season if I can determine a way to remove it at season’s end


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MAXUM 08-05-2020 05:43 PM

I had a tree come down on my camp late yesterday afternoon, a very good sized and healthy maple, got completely uprooted. Thankfully after spending the day carefully removing it from the roof damage was not to bad.

I've seen some pretty nasty storms up here but nothing quite as bad as yesterday.

Still no power - part of Meredith Neck Rd is closed and there is a re-route to get around what I would assume is more downed trees. Power guys are going to be busy for a while.

ApS 08-05-2020 05:57 PM

No Question...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RUGMAN (Post 340850)
Do people think that having a boat on a mooring vs dock would fair better, I was lucky, I had my tritoon pulled out monday for repairs, otherwise it would have been on my mooring.

Moorings are absolutely better.

MDoug 08-05-2020 07:13 PM

Bear Power
 
Outage map shows 149 outages on Bear now. As usual, mainland customers do seem to get served first.

ishoot308 08-05-2020 07:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dad sold the C * C (Post 340849)
Dan, was the dock line connected to the back cap and you think the edge got bashed enough for the cap to pull off?

I'm asking because I put an extra line from my rear cap to the dock. I keep it loose as it's there only if another line fails. From the photo my neighbor sent I think it helped me because the post with the line that prevents the boat going forward tilted quite a bit. ( I have whips and snubbers for lateral movement and hard line for forward / backward movement. I may try snubbers on the hard lines.

Yes on that particular pontoon the tie off is on the back cap. He had four way tied with snubbers as well as but it was just too much. Even the front tie offS which are welded to the front of the pontoon both broke off! The wind was just brutal and his breakwater kind of locks the waves in and really makes things worse under certain wind conditions. Once that boat broke free it really took its toll on his very nice Bennington Tri-toon. Both side pontoons are basically destroyed, still useable but destroyed!

Dan

welch-time 08-05-2020 08:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by codeman671 (Post 340830)
I have never seen that happen!

Yeah, I'm no welder but that isn't right. The rope should have snapped long before the weld let go (unless it was Dyneema). Especially the way the entire cap peeled clean off. Maybe "Joe the new guy" was running the welder that day. Maybe the surfaces weren't prepared properly or corrosion got into the weld. It certainly wouldn't hurt to show Sylvan. They claim a "Limited Lifetime Warranty" on the hull and structure (whatever that means). Maybe get it repaired for free.

Mark

MDoug 08-06-2020 06:02 AM

Bear Power
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MAXUM (Post 340853)
I had a tree come down on my camp late yesterday afternoon, a very good sized and healthy maple, got completely uprooted. Thankfully after spending the day carefully removing it from the roof damage was not to bad.

I've seen some pretty nasty storms up here but nothing quite as bad as yesterday.

Still no power - part of Meredith Neck Rd is closed and there is a re-route to get around what I would assume is more downed trees. Power guys are going to be busy for a while.

There is a tree on the line in back of 315 Bear Island. Power is out from there north through the mail dock, probably all over Bear.

MAXUM 08-06-2020 08:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MDoug (Post 340879)
There is a tree on the line in back of 315 Bear Island. Power is out from there north through the mail dock, probably all over Bear.

I've heard that a crew may be headed out here today. We shall see, I have yet to see anyone walking the powerlines yet.

There are still a lot of scattered outages so hard to say who will be next on the restoration list.

MDoug 08-06-2020 11:36 AM

Bear Power
 
As usual, crews seem to service mainland first. Outage map, tho not always updated, shows 156 outages at Cattle, 149 on Bear, but I bet there's more than that.

Blstr88 08-06-2020 01:01 PM

Welch should be back on as of about 1330!

MAXUM 08-06-2020 02:09 PM

Power is back on on the NE side of Bear

Juiced06GTO 08-06-2020 03:04 PM

Not sure if anyone follows any of the happenings on Sebago, but if anyone has facebook check out the carnage up there. Boats on moorings did NOT fare well, there are probably a dozen that ended up either on the beach or on rocks mostly destroyed. Really sad for a lot of people. Glad to hear everyone is safe though.

MDoug 08-06-2020 03:23 PM

Bear Power
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MAXUM (Post 340942)
Power is back on on the NE side of Bear

Power restored to our cove on west Bear, behind Shepard Island

jbolty 08-06-2020 04:33 PM

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injecting a little levity

Barney Bear 08-06-2020 07:08 PM

Charge It, Please
 
Has power been restored to East Bear Island yet?

Garcia 08-06-2020 07:42 PM

Atlantic Broadband on Bear?
 
Anyone know the status of internet on Bear? I can’t reach anyone there to get a status report.

ursa minor 08-06-2020 07:56 PM

I’m glad to hear that some islanders are getting restored, you must have a different service provider. (Eversource?) No sense of urgency from NHEC for the Tuftonboro islands, no trucks insight anywhere, website is beyond useless for outage information other than that they exist. They’ll gladly charge us close to $30 bucks a month for the privilege of having their meter on the backs of or camps though. Even in the winter when we’re not here.

Rant off, we’re here now and the generator is running. Internet is working, cocktail is tasty so on with more positive endeavors.

Formula260SS 08-06-2020 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Juiced06GTO (Post 340947)
Not sure if anyone follows any of the happenings on Sebago, but if anyone has facebook check out the carnage up there. Boats on moorings did NOT fare well, there are probably a dozen that ended up either on the beach or on rocks mostly destroyed. Really sad for a lot of people. Glad to hear everyone is safe though.

The news clip I watched was a bunch of pontoons moored in shallow water with mushroom type anchors / moorings. The waves lifted the boats enough to move the mooring. I know mine would not have budged. 2000lbs of block, Stainless chain with lots of scope but I'm on the broads where 4' waves come multiple times a year.

Little Bear 08-07-2020 06:12 AM

NH Electric Coop SUCKS!
 
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Originally Posted by ursa minor (Post 340964)
I’m glad to hear that some islanders are getting restored, you must have a different service provider. (Eversource?) No sense of urgency from NHEC for the Tuftonboro islands, no trucks insight anywhere, website is beyond useless for outage information other than that they exist. They’ll gladly charge us close to $30 bucks a month for the privilege of having their meter on the backs of or camps though. Even in the winter when we’re not here.

Rant off, we’re here now and the generator is running. Internet is working, cocktail is tasty so on with more positive endeavors.

Still no power on Little Bear 3 days after the storm. I heard that a tree took the power line down over on Cow, which is what caused this outage. NHEC is a completely useless, corrupt organization, that’s not even regulated by NH Public Utilities Commission. If only we had a choice, and they didn’t have a monopoly.

thinkxingu 08-07-2020 06:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Little Bear (Post 340976)
Still no power on Little Bear 3 days after the storm. I heard that a tree took the power line down over on Cow, which is what caused this outage. NHEC is a completely useless, corrupt organization, that’s not even regulated by NH Public Utilities Commission. If only we had a choice, and they didn’t have a monopoly.

I'm asking not to be a nudge but to know: what makes you define NHEC as corrupt? I mean, there are many people still out of power, and island properties would be expected to come last, no?

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Little Bear 08-07-2020 06:52 AM

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Originally Posted by thinkxingu (Post 340977)
I'm asking not to be a nudge but to know: what makes you define NHEC as corrupt? I mean, there are many people still out of power, and island properties would be expected to come last, no?

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Why should islands be last? Island properties pay the same “member fee” and the same rates as mainland properties. If island properties are last on the list, then rates for these properties should be reduced. I can understand if it’s mid-winter, or if ice conditions are unsafe. But we’re talking the first week of August with 2 days of nice weather after this storm. NHEC has their own boat, so why can’t they send a crew out to fix this problem? Islanders have refrigerators and freezers full of food and ice, just like mainlanders, and also need electricity to operate water pumps and septic systems. I don’t have time to elaborate on their corruption right now.

thinkxingu 08-07-2020 06:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Little Bear (Post 340980)
Why should islands be last? Island properties pay the same “member fee” and the same rates as mainland properties. If island properties are last on the list, then rates for these properties should be reduced. I can understand if it’s mid-winter, or if ice conditions are unsafe. But we’re talking the first week of August with 2 days of nice weather after this storm. NHEC has their own boat, so why can’t they send a crew out to fix this problem? Islanders have refrigerators and freezers full of food and ice, just like mainlanders, and also need electricity to operate water pumps and septic systems. I don’t have time to elaborate on their corruption right now.

Why would Islands be last? I guess for the same reason houses further in the woods or at the ends of lines would come last: access and number of customers.

Historically, have islands been restored simultaneously? I mean, is there a precedent?



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Barney Bear 08-07-2020 07:05 AM

Power Up?
 
Any information about the status of power on East Bear Island this Friday morning? 🐻

ApS 08-07-2020 07:05 AM

Ummm...
 
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Originally Posted by thinkxingu (Post 340981)
Why would Islands be last? I guess for the same reason houses further in the woods or at the ends of lines would come last: access and number of customers.

Historically, have islands been restored simultaneously? I mean, is there a precedent?

Historically, islands never had power. ;)

Garcia 08-07-2020 07:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Little Bear (Post 340976)
Still no power on Little Bear 3 days after the storm. I heard that a tree took the power line down over on Cow, which is what caused this outage. NHEC is a completely useless, corrupt organization, that’s not even regulated by NH Public Utilities Commission. If only we had a choice, and they didn’t have a monopoly.

Power is on at Bear. Given the number of outages, I think they did a pretty good job to get it restored as quickly as they did - no complaints from me. With Atlantic Broadband, on the other hand, I have been struggling to get accurate information.

exlakesregioner 08-07-2020 07:18 AM

is the power on the mainland that service the lines going to the islands up and running? if not how can they restore power to the islands any quicker. Even customers on the mainland that are at the ends of the service runs can't come back till the the lines that feed them are restored. They can't start at the far end till the service is restored getting to that point. Having worked storm damage to restore power during winter it's no fun, imagine after working multiple days and finally getting to some of the seasonal areas that are usually unoccupied in winter and after having the town plow the road so the crews could get in, have 2 familys drive out, no one knew they were in there.

Little Bear 08-07-2020 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by exlakesregioner (Post 340985)
is the power on the mainland that service the lines going to the islands up and running? if not how can they restore power to the islands any quicker. Even customers on the mainland that are at the ends of the service runs can't come back till the the lines that feed them are restored. They can't start at the far end till the service is restored getting to that point. Having worked storm damage to restore power during winter it's no fun, imagine after working multiple days and finally getting to some of the seasonal areas that are usually unoccupied in winter and after having the town plow the road so the crews could get in, have 2 familys drive out, no one knew they were in there.

Their outage map shows no outages on the mainland in Tuftonboro. It also shows 193 outages in Tuftonboro, which I believe would be right around the number out houses on the Tuftonboro islands served by NHEC.

Little Bear 08-07-2020 07:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Garcia (Post 340984)
Power is on at Bear. Given the number of outages, I think they did a pretty good job to get it restored as quickly as they did - no complaints from me. With Atlantic Broadband, on the other hand, I have been struggling to get accurate information.

I guess Big Bear comes before Little Bear! Glad to hear you’re restored.

ishoot308 08-07-2020 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by thinkxingu (Post 340981)
Historically, have islands been restored simultaneously? I mean, is there a precedent?



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Yes, islands are usually restored last...

Dan

ursa minor 08-07-2020 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by exlakesregioner (Post 340985)
is the power on the mainland that service the lines going to the islands up and running? if not how can they restore power to the islands any quicker. Even customers on the mainland that are at the ends of the service runs can't come back till the the lines that feed them are restored. They can't start at the far end till the service is restored getting to that point. Having worked storm damage to restore power during winter it's no fun, imagine after working multiple days and finally getting to some of the seasonal areas that are usually unoccupied in winter and after having the town plow the road so the crews could get in, have 2 familys drive out, no one knew they were in there.

Trust me, there’s power all the way down to Harilla Landing and there has been all along. They never lost power. Looking at their “map” again this morning, Tuftonboro has the highest percentage of outages by members served and yet none of them are on the mainland. Also as Little Bear pointed out, it August and the weather is perfect, hardly a comparison to a mid winter or ice storm situation. This storm was forecast days in advance so there was ample time for NHEC to prepare and line up back up crews as other utilities do.


I entered a comment on the lack of response on their website last night for all the good it will do. No sign of any NHEC crews at the landing as 8:00 this morning, good thing we have plenty of gas for the generator.

codeman671 08-07-2020 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Garcia (Post 340984)
Power is on at Bear. Given the number of outages, I think they did a pretty good job to get it restored as quickly as they did - no complaints from me. With Atlantic Broadband, on the other hand, I have been struggling to get accurate information.

Only part of Bear is on, we are still out.

LIforrelaxin 08-07-2020 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Little Bear (Post 340980)
Why should islands be last? Island properties pay the same “member fee” and the same rates as mainland properties. If island properties are last on the list, then rates for these properties should be reduced. I can understand if it’s mid-winter, or if ice conditions are unsafe. But we’re talking the first week of August with 2 days of nice weather after this storm. NHEC has their own boat, so why can’t they send a crew out to fix this problem? Islanders have refrigerators and freezers full of food and ice, just like mainlanders, and also need electricity to operate water pumps and septic systems. I don’t have time to elaborate on their corruption right now.

Why do you think islands should be more important?

My father spent a lot of time working with power companies over his career. They have plans for how to deal with storm response. Plans which by the way are supposed to be available to the public. This plans describe the priority of response to various areas if the grid. Islands are likely at the bottom of that list for good reason:

1. Are there emergency or medical services housed on the islands? (i.e. hospitals, Dr. Offices, Police Stations, fire departments)
2. Are The residents with serious medical conditions, needing electricity to treat on the islands?
3. What is the down time for a crew traveling to and from the island?
4. How much information do they have regarding specifically what the issue is on the island?

#4 here is a big one, does someone on little bear know where the fuse is blown or line down? if so have the called that information in, or even better sent pictures to NHEC?

NHEC is very well run and manged, they do a tremendous job.... If you want to talk about power company corruption why don't you look into a company called Unitil...........

Having friends on various islands I can tell you islands are always last on the list. The ones that seem to get the fastest service, are the places where the residents get involved and get information to the power company....

Garcia 08-07-2020 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by codeman671 (Post 340998)
Only part of Bear is on, we are still out.

Thanks for the update. Hope it’s restored soon!

MAXUM 08-07-2020 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Little Bear (Post 340980)
Why should islands be last? Island properties pay the same “member fee” and the same rates as mainland properties. If island properties are last on the list, then rates for these properties should be reduced. I can understand if it’s mid-winter, or if ice conditions are unsafe. But we’re talking the first week of August with 2 days of nice weather after this storm. NHEC has their own boat, so why can’t they send a crew out to fix this problem? Islanders have refrigerators and freezers full of food and ice, just like mainlanders, and also need electricity to operate water pumps and septic systems. I don’t have time to elaborate on their corruption right now.

As an islander, one has to be willing to accept the fact that there are different logistics involved with providing services to areas that are difficult to get to. While we all pay the same for using these services and for the fees necessary to maintain the infrastructure, expectations as to when restoration can be expected should consider where you are. Bottom line it is not up to the NHEC to come to everyone's rescue immediately following a storm, rather everyone should be adequately prepared for these situations. Having a generator is not a significant investment to run the basics and frankly was the first thing I did to my place assuming being on an island service restorations may be slow.

For the most part I think that the NHEC does a pretty good job at responding, and I don't think considering the damage to the infrastructure the response time has been inadequate.

FURTHERMORE keep in mind these guys have to abide by the ridiculous COVID19 restrictions which is slowing their progress. Makes it a little tough to get a job done when you're stuck having to play the social distancing, no large groups of people in one place and mask wearing game.

Think a little gratitude goes a long way for these line workers who are working 24X7 to restore power as quickly as they can.

TheTimeTraveler 08-07-2020 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Little Bear (Post 340976)
Still no power on Little Bear 3 days after the storm. I heard that a tree took the power line down over on Cow, which is what caused this outage. NHEC is a completely useless, corrupt organization, that’s not even regulated by NH Public Utilities Commission. If only we had a choice, and they didn’t have a monopoly.

Do you know why NHEC is not regulated by the NH Public Utilities Commission?

If they are not regulated then who oversees their activities? Who do they report to?

Garcia 08-07-2020 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by MAXUM (Post 341001)
As an islander, one has to be willing to accept the fact that there are different logistics involved with providing services to areas that are difficult to get to. While we all pay the same for using these services and for the fees necessary to maintain the infrastructure, expectations as to when restoration can be expected should consider where you are. Bottom line it is not up to the NHEC to come to everyone's rescue immediately following a storm, rather everyone should be adequately prepared for these situations. Having a generator is not a significant investment to run the basics and frankly was the first thing I did to my place assuming being on an island service restorations may be slow.

For the most part I think that the NHEC does a pretty good job at responding, and I don't think considering the damage to the infrastructure the response time has been inadequate.

FURTHERMORE keep in mind these guys have to abide by the ridiculous COVID19 restrictions which is slowing their progress. Makes it a little tough to get a job done when you're stuck having to play the social distancing, no large groups of people in one place and mask wearing game.

Think a little gratitude goes a long way for these line workers who are working 24X7 to restore power as quickly as they can.

Well said - thank you

rick35 08-07-2020 09:21 AM

I suspect priority is given to getting the most people turned on sooner and the fewer number of people later. And that would probably include larger islands getting priority over smaller islands.

Slickcraft 08-07-2020 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by TheTimeTraveler (Post 341002)
Do you know why NHEC is not regulated by the NH Public Utilities Commission?

If they are not regulated then who oversees their activities? Who do they report to?

The coop is owned by it's members.
https://www.nhec.com/

We have NHEC at home in West Alton and have always had good service.

MAXUM 08-07-2020 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Garcia (Post 340984)
Power is on at Bear. Given the number of outages, I think they did a pretty good job to get it restored as quickly as they did - no complaints from me. With Atlantic Broadband, on the other hand, I have been struggling to get accurate information.

ABB shows on their outage page no outages in Meredith. I did attempt to get in touch with them but no luck just an answering machine. I imagine at this point they have no ETA.

Here's the deal with them, they cannot restore service till power is available as the signal requires powered amplifiers on the poles themselves. Although the power grid may be segmented and redundant the same may not be true of the broadband infrastructure. I would not expect that broadband will return to service until the majority of the power is restored, only then can they hit the poles and fix any damage done to their stuff.

MAXUM 08-07-2020 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by TheTimeTraveler (Post 341002)
Do you know why NHEC is not regulated by the NH Public Utilities Commission?

If they are not regulated then who oversees their activities? Who do they report to?

The members.

This is why the "members" are given the chance to vote on various projects and leadership. Similar to a credit union vs a regular bank.

I doubt as a private entity they are governed by the NHPUC, however I can't say that for sure.

P-3 Guy 08-07-2020 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Little Bear (Post 340976)
NHEC is a completely useless, corrupt organization, that’s not even regulated by NH Public Utilities Commission. If only we had a choice, and they didn’t have a monopoly.

How are you coming to the conclusion that NHEC is not regulated by the NH PUC?


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Why should islands be last?
Because the islands are typically at the end of the service line.


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