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TiltonBB 04-22-2019 08:01 PM

Hot Tip.........Big Boat......Coming Soon
 
This is kind of a teaser but it is all that can be said for now!

There is a new big privately owned boat coming to the lake. It is a little bigger, by a few feet, than the last big privately owned boat that was on the lake.

It is on the way now and will be in the water within the next 4 weeks. It is impressive!

That is all! Stay tuned!

Garcia 04-22-2019 08:49 PM

I’m intrigued. What is the boat it will exceed in length? My recollection is a 50’ Bluewater, can’t remember it’s name.

WeirsBeachBoater 04-22-2019 09:20 PM

I believe Manitou The Blue Water coastal cruiser is 51'. I had the opportunity to run that one time so that the usual Captain could enjoy an onboard party and have a cocktail or two. The other BIG boat left the lake a few years back that was a 53' Carver. So I am guessin the new BIG ONE will be greater than 53'.

Dave R 04-23-2019 04:57 AM

"Bigger" in displacement too or just length?

WJT2 04-23-2019 07:34 AM

So back in the day, as my kids like to say, does anyone remember the HOTAI or HOTI (spelling may be wrong) (pronounced hoe-tie)? She was a privately owned Chris Craft Connie and was largest privately owned cruiser on Lake during sixt's and early seventies. She was slipped at Fays Boat Yard. Beautiful cruiser don't know where she went but Tom Alley who worked at Fay's had family connection to this boat. She was awesome!

iw8surf 04-23-2019 07:42 AM

ugh, but the huge wakes this outrageous boat is going to make! :laugh:

ishoot308 04-23-2019 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by TiltonBB (Post 310134)
This is kind of a teaser but it is all that can be said for now!

There is a new big privately owned boat coming to the lake. It is a little bigger, by a few feet, than the last big privately owned boat that was on the lake.

It is on the way now and will be in the water within the next 4 weeks. It is impressive!

That is all! Stay tuned!

Must be the 58' Gallien with a 16' beam and 17' tall?? 64' overall??...owner of MB Tractor??...

What do I win??

So much for keeping secrets huh??.....

Dan

TiltonBB 04-23-2019 08:42 AM

Nothing. You got the length wrong and you spelled Galeon wrong.

Sorry, there is no second prize!

fatlazyless 04-23-2019 08:43 AM

Who knows ..... maybe is this?

www.galeon.pl/en/model/640-fly-2/

Whatever ...... hey there buddy ......power it on down, past Fl-3, and power up some big wakes ...... good fun swimming with a foam noodle belt and stand up paddle boards .... plus, is nice to watch a big fancy-dancy yacht like that, as it cruises on bye ... someone else is paying ...

Shallow water and rocks is shallow water and rocks ..... and the big boats like to keep their distance from shallow water and rocks.

Galeon has been making boats since about 1980 in Poland, close to Gdansk ..... on the Baltic Sea.

Could be a happening boat for running a weekly zumba class ....... zumba on the Galeon!

This Galeon boat is close to the same length as the barge 'The Dive' and probably 100-times more sea worthy.

WinnisquamZ 04-23-2019 08:47 AM

Why?


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webmaster 04-23-2019 08:53 AM

This 2000 thread from our old forum has some pictures of the 53' Carver:

https://www.winnipesaukeeforum.com/i...mes;read=14334

Biggd 04-23-2019 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by WinnisquamZ (Post 310165)
Why?


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Because he can. Have you seen Tractor prices lately?

joey2665 04-23-2019 09:00 AM

Yes he can but I just don't see the attraction to have such a large boat on the lake but different strokes for different folks

Biggd 04-23-2019 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by joey2665 (Post 310168)
Yes he can but I just don't see the attraction to have such a large boat on the lake but different strokes for different folks

I agree, just as having a 1200HP offshore race boat on a lake that has a 45 mph speed limit, but when you have that much money you have to spend it on something. Sometimes it's just to show people how successful you've become. :confused:

ishoot308 04-23-2019 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by TiltonBB (Post 310163)
Nothing. You got the length wrong and you spelled Galeon wrong.

Sorry, there is no second prize!

No wonder no images came up when I googled "Gallien"!:D

What is the correct overall length if not 64'??

MAXUM 04-23-2019 09:44 AM

Does it come complete with Capt. Jack Sparrow at the helm?

Dave R 04-23-2019 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by fatlazyless (Post 310164)
Who knows ..... maybe is this?

www.galeon.pl/en/model/640-fly-2/

Whatever ...... hey there buddy ......power it on down, past Fl-3, and power up some big wakes ...... good fun swimming with a foam noodle belt and stand up paddle boards .... plus, is nice to watch a big fancy-dancy yacht like that, as it cruises on bye ... someone else is paying ...

Shallow water and rocks is shallow water and rocks ..... and the big boats like to keep their distance from shallow water and rocks.

Galeon has been making boats since about 1980 in Poland, close to Gdansk ..... on the Baltic Sea.

Could be a happening boat for running a weekly zumba class ....... zumba on the Galeon!

This Galeon boat is close to the same length as the barge 'The Dive' and probably 100-times more sea worthy.


I toured a smaller version of that at the boat show. Neat features, but not my cup of tea. I'm more partial to traditional lines. That said, I'd love one of these: https://setsail.com/category/fpb-78/

Biggd 04-23-2019 11:08 AM

OK, let's guess cost. I say 1.5 Million.

Dave R 04-23-2019 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Biggd (Post 310177)
OK, let's guess cost. I say 1.5 Million.

The 47 foot version was 1 million at the show, I'd guess the 64 footer would be more than double that. There's a HUGE difference between a 47 and 64 foot boat. Propulsion cost increases alone would be staggering.

Biggd 04-23-2019 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave R (Post 310203)
The 47 foot version was 1 million at the show, I'd guess the 64 footer would be more than double that. There's a HUGE difference between a 47 and 64 foot boat. Propulsion cost increases alone would be staggering.

I have a friend of mine that bought a 59' boat last year built in France and he paid 1.5 million, not sure of the make. So ya, somewhere between 1.5 and 2 sounds about right.

Biggd 04-23-2019 02:14 PM

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I have a friend of mine that bought a 59' boat last year built in France and he paid 1.5 million, not sure of the make. So ya, somewhere between 1.5 and 2 sounds about right.

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fatlazyless 04-23-2019 05:41 PM

A small boat like an 11' aluminum jon boat, purchased for $350 with two oars included from craigslist gives you a feeling for being close to the water ..... that you just don't get with a big boat like that!

Biggd 04-23-2019 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by fatlazyless (Post 310223)
A small boat like an 11' aluminum jon boat, purchased for $350 with two oars included from craigslist gives you a feeling for being close to the water ..... that you just don't get with a big boat like that!

So doesn't a noodle.

fatlazyless 04-23-2019 06:27 PM

Even on a sunny, warm day, 36-degree water is pretty danged cold for using a swim noodle, but rowing a small 11' jon boat is totally doable in 36-degree water ..... plus you get to row it and go fishing. Sitting on the middle seat and using oars makes a small row boat very stable in wakes and waves up to about 2 1/2' high.

About the only thing you get from boating on a 64' yacht ..... is to get fat and drunk!

TiltonBB 04-23-2019 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by fatlazyless (Post 310226)
About the only thing you get from boating on a 64' yacht ..... is to get fat and drunk!

That sounds about right!

Are there any negatives?

TiltonBB 04-24-2019 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by ishoot308 (Post 310170)
No wonder no images came up when I googled "Gallien"!:D

What is the correct overall length if not 64'??

56 Feet

It has made it as far as New Jersey as of today. Headed to Portsmouth on the water then being trucked to the lake.

Massive undertaking! Bridges, wires, tree branches. Over height, over width, over length and a weight of about 55,000 pounds. Plenty to deal with.

It's about 7,000 pounds more than the 53 Carver was but it cannot be broken down for height like the 53. When the 53 was shipped to Rhode Island the bridge left on a different truck than the boat itself.

kawishiwi 04-24-2019 07:51 PM

Lakeside Cottage
 
So...this must be primarily a live aboard?
Wonder how many hours will be put on the engines each year. I am guessing that after running around a few times in the new toy that they end up logging around 15 hrs seasonally. Maybe 1 lap around the broads each nice weekend?

TiltonBB 04-24-2019 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by kawishiwi (Post 310312)
So...this must be primarily a live aboard?
Wonder how many hours will be put on the engines each year. I am guessing that after running around a few times in the new toy that they end up logging around 15 hrs seasonally. Maybe 1 lap around the broads each nice weekend?

No. The owner has a large home on Governor's Island. I doubt anyone will ever spend a night on it.

gillygirl 04-24-2019 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by TiltonBB (Post 310313)
No. The owner has a large home on Governor's Island. I doubt anyone will ever spend a night on it.



I’ll volunteer to spend a night, or many nights, on it! [emoji6]


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ApS 04-24-2019 08:47 PM

Displacing Lake Water—Even More...
 
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Originally Posted by TiltonBB (Post 310311)
56 Feet
It has made it as far as New Jersey as of today. Headed to Portsmouth on the water then being trucked to the lake.
Massive undertaking! Bridges, wires, tree branches. Over height, over width, over length and a weight of about 55,000 pounds. Plenty to deal with. It's about 7,000 pounds more than the 53 Carver was but it cannot be broken down for height like the 53. When the 53 was shipped to Rhode Island the bridge left on a different truck than the boat itself.

Fifty-five thousand pounds, and the lake is already high! :eek:

Descant 04-24-2019 09:00 PM

Job available
 
We used to use our cruiser as a "guest house". People loved the idea of sleeping on the boat. We downsized. Now people want to sleep on the boat because it has a/c and the camp does not.
The only way to go to Wolfeboro for lunch on weekends is to have the captain drop people off and float in the bay until pick up time. No captain, so that hasn't worked well so far. PM me if you want to be the captain. We'll bring you take out. Great for Welch Island resident who wants to walk to work. EOE M/F non-smoke.

fatlazyless 04-25-2019 04:59 AM

Coming from the Galeon factory in Gdansk, Poland to New Jersey, did it travel on its' own as a boat crossing the ocean, or as cargo in a big freighter ship?

Is not all that unusual for a 33' sailboat with a keel to make the ocean crossing powered by sail.

8 1/2' is the standard max width for a truck trailer, on the U.S. roads, and 8' is the width for the semi-tractor pulling the trailer.

Will there be a regularly scheduled zumba class on the bow area, every week?

Maybe it could be named the 'ZUMBA' .... with just five letters, not a bad name for a big yacht .... can go buy some big letters at Hobby Lobby in Tilton for short money.

ApS 04-25-2019 05:30 AM

No Carbon "Footprint"...
 
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Originally Posted by fatlazyless (Post 310323)
Coming from the Galeon factory in Gdansk, Poland to New Jersey, did it travel on its' own as a boat crossing the ocean, or as cargo in a big freighter ship? Is not all that unusual for a 33' sailboat with a keel to make the ocean crossing powered by sail. 8 1/2' is the standard max width for a truck trailer, on the U.S. roads, and 8' is the width for the semi-tractor pulling the trailer. Will there be a regularly scheduled zumba class on the bow area, every week? Maybe it could be named the 'ZUMBA' .... with just five letters, not a bad name for a big yacht .... can go buy some big letters at Hobby Lobby in Tilton for short money.

While sailboat deliveries across the Atlantic are not unusual, there are about nine yachts drifting in the Atlantic Ocean—abandoned by their crews after being hit by heavy squalls.

Catamarans and trimarans are more resistant to totally sinking, but all have been written-off by their insurors.

Most rescues were successful, but the boats are still circulating—one found after nine years of sailing with no one aboard! :eek:

http://www.maritimeherald.com/wp-con...ed-300x200.jpg

TiltonBB 04-25-2019 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by ApS (Post 310315)
Fifty-five thousand pounds, and the lake is already high! :eek:

Your agenda is well known and your years of protests have been acknowledged. Instead of waking up every day and thinking of all the changes on the lake that displease you perhaps you could find a small lake with a 1920's feel that will be more to your liking. Life is too short to be as negative as you seem to be.

Or, if you are really serious about your objection to larger boats on the lake, instead of being a keyboard warrior why not take some action? Start at the top!

Get into your Prius with the "Bernie Bros" bumper sticker on it and head over to the Weirs. When the families are boarding the Mount Washington for a day of enjoyment on the lake you could be strutting your stuff on the dock with a sign protesting "over sized boats".

Anything else is just negative noise!

Biggd 04-25-2019 08:13 AM

Here we go, bringing the political crap to a thread again! :rolleye1:

joey2665 04-25-2019 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by TiltonBB (Post 310341)
Your agenda is well known and your years of protests have been acknowledged. Instead of waking up every day and thinking of all the changes on the lake that displease you perhaps you could find a small lake with a 1920's feel that will be more to your liking. Life is too short to be as negative as you seem to be.

Or, if you are really serious about your objection to larger boats on the lake, instead of being a keyboard warrior why not take some action? Start at the top!

Get into your Prius with the "Bernie Bros" bumper sticker on it and head over to the Weirs. When the families are boarding the Mount Washington for a day of enjoyment on the lake you could be strutting your stuff on the dock with a sign protesting "over sized boats".

Anything else is just negative noise!

Awesome response. It's bad enough we have a speed limit :eek:, but now we want to restrict boat size? It is absolutely incredible and just another case of the tail trying to wag the dog

Biggd 04-25-2019 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by joey2665 (Post 310344)
Awesome response. It's bad enough we have a speed limit :eek:, but now we want to restrict boat size? It is absolutely incredible and just another case of the tail trying to wag the dog

Two different things, speed limit is about safety. I don't think the size of a boat will affect safety on the lake.

Personally I don't care what size boat someone has but I do care about how fast they are going, esp when it's a busy weekend. You can't count on every boater being responsible, careful, and respectful.

codeman671 04-25-2019 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by TiltonBB (Post 310311)
56 Feet

It has made it as far as New Jersey as of today. Headed to Portsmouth on the water then being trucked to the lake.

Massive undertaking! Bridges, wires, tree branches. Over height, over width, over length and a weight of about 55,000 pounds. Plenty to deal with.

It's about 7,000 pounds more than the 53 Carver was but it cannot be broken down for height like the 53. When the 53 was shipped to Rhode Island the bridge left on a different truck than the boat itself.

Which model is it? Galeon makes a few in that overall length range. My kids loved its baby brother at the boat show.

That will be impressive to see that move over the road. I imagine they will have to take it 95 to 101 to 93. I cant imagine trying Route 11!

joey2665 04-25-2019 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Biggd (Post 310347)
Two different things, speed limit is about safety. I don't think the size of a boat will affect safety on the lake.

Personally I don't care what size boat someone has but I do care about how fast they are going, esp when it's a busy weekend. You can't count on every boater being responsible, careful, and respectful.



Going to agree to disagree don’t want to revive this argument. [emoji6]


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Major 04-25-2019 03:23 PM

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Going to agree to disagree don’t want to revive this argument. [emoji6]


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We have to be vigilant, though. Before you know it, there will be some other absurd law that does nothing it improve safety, but makes the liberal law makers feel good. We know that the speed limit does not effect safety one bit.


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