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XCR-700 07-25-2020 10:29 AM

Air Tour of Winnipesaukee
 
Sorry, not sure if this is the right forum, but I'll take a shot and the admin can move it if needed.

Wondering if there is still any one conducting float plane tours of Winnipesaukee? I know where was one from Paugas Bay for years.

Any help is appreciated.

Jdarby 07-25-2020 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by XCR-700 (Post 339779)
Sorry, not sure if this is the right forum, but I'll take a shot and the admin can move it if needed.

Wondering if there is still any one conducting float plane tours of Winnipesaukee? I know where was one from Paugas Bay for years.

Any help is appreciated.

XCR, these are the only ones I’m aware of..... https://seaplanetours.net

Their service is currently closed due to COVID.

I did a seaplane ride out of Paugus during my very first visit to the lake almost 30 years ago. It was quite the treat! My full-time job had me flying on a helicopter daily but there’s just something extra thrilling about a takeoff and landing on the water! Hope you can find a ride!

webmaster 07-25-2020 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Jdarby (Post 339802)
XCR, these are the only ones I’m aware of..... https://seaplanetours.net

https://www.winnipesaukee.com/photop...m/100_6543.JPG

TheTimeTraveler 07-25-2020 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by XCR-700 (Post 339779)
Sorry, not sure if this is the right forum, but I'll take a shot and the admin can move it if needed.

Wondering if there is still any one conducting float plane tours of Winnipesaukee? I know where was one from Paugas Bay for years.

Any help is appreciated.

To my knowledge no one does it anymore, but I could be wrong.

I seem to remember that the cost of insurance liability was quite high and that may have made the service stop.

By the way, I tried to take the plane tour out of Paugus Bay about 30 years ago on a very hot, and extremely humid day with my elderly father and my young daughter. Wouldn't you know it; the pilot was unable to get the plane off the surface due to the humidity (or so he claimed), took us back to the dock, I got off, and the plane then took off just fine! He said if we were on salt water then he wouldn't have had an issue with me riding on the plane that day. Go figure!

XCR-700 07-25-2020 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Jdarby (Post 339802)
My full-time job had me flying on a helicopter daily

Too funny, in my youth I had a friend who was a helicopter mechanic, and I had always wanted to be a helicopter pilot, but was told time and time again by the guys who were flying at that time, that only the ex military pilots can get work, so I never pursued it.

What kind of work were you doing that you got shuttled by helicopter, oil industry?

Many thanks for the link, too bad they are not operating, but maybe they will be again soon,,,

XCR-700 07-25-2020 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by webmaster (Post 339805)

Yup, looks like just what I am hoping for, when they reopen,,,

THANKS!

XCR-700 07-25-2020 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by TheTimeTraveler (Post 339826)
To my knowledge no one does it anymore, but I could be wrong.

I seem to remember that the cost of insurance liability was quite high and that may have made the service stop.

By the way, I tries to take the plane tour out of Paugus Bay about 30 years ago on a very hot, and extremely humid day with my elderly father and my young daughter. Wouldn't you know it; the pilot was unable to get the plane off the surface due to the humidity (or so he claimed), took us back to the dock, I got off, and the plane then took off just fine! He said if we were on salt water then he wouldn't have had an issue with me riding on the plane that day. Go figure!

Actually what I know about aircraft, that makes some sense. High heat and humidity impact engine power and when you are near you maximum weight limit it impacts takeoff. So shedding just a few pounds can make the difference between taking off or not,,,

I think they were probably being honest with you. Its just unfortunate it didnt work out as expected, but I think you also were very generous to get off and let your daughter and father take the trip, thats exactly what I would do, and with no regrets if it worked and they had a good time. I'll bet they enjoyed it and it created a lasting memory!

Tuckntruck 07-25-2020 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by XCR-700 (Post 339829)
Actually what I know about aircraft, that makes some sense. High heat and humidity impact engine power and when you are near you maximum weight limit it impacts takeoff. So shedding just a few pounds can make the difference between taking off or not,,,

I think they were probably being honest with you. Its just unfortunate it didnt work out as expected, but I think you also were very generous to get off and let your daughter and father take the trip, thats exactly what I would do, and with no regrets if it worked and they had a good time. I'll bet they enjoyed it and it created a lasting memory!

It certainly does, Humidity and temperature have the effect of raising the in the easiest of terms, apparent altitude of the airplane. Performance decreases markedly with altitude.

That was most likely the Aeronca Sedan flown by Emerson if they met you at burger king. That airplane had 65? Hp (it's been a while) Depending on the chop, (calm/glassy conditions made that one tough to get off the water sometimes) temp, and humidity sometimes in a light plane like that, it's just not happening.

P-3 Guy 07-26-2020 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by XCR-700 (Post 339829)
Actually what I know about aircraft, that makes some sense. High heat and humidity impact engine power and when you are near you maximum weight limit it impacts takeoff.

It has more to do with available lift than the performance of a reciprocating engine.

Humidity affects the way an airplane flies because of the change in pressure that accompanies changes in humidity. As the humidity goes up, the air pressure for a given volume of air goes down. This means the wings have fewer air molecules to affect as they are pushed through the airmass. Fewer molecules = less lift.

https://www.physlink.com/education/askexperts/ae652.cfm

Jdarby 07-26-2020 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by XCR-700 (Post 339827)
Too funny, in my youth I had a friend who was a helicopter mechanic, and I had always wanted to be a helicopter pilot, but was told time and time again by the guys who were flying at that time, that only the ex military pilots can get work, so I never pursued it.

What kind of work were you doing that you got shuttled by helicopter, oil industry?

Many thanks for the link, too bad they are not operating, but maybe they will be again soon,,,

Civilian MEDEVAC. I worked full-time as a Flight Medic for 18 years. Worked in CT and NY but flew all over New England. Did missions in all the New England states except ME. Still work in the industry but now in the administrative side. Waking up at 3am on a 24hr shift to jump on a helicopter is for the young! :) Saw some amazing and some terrible things. But, once in awhile we really made the difference for someone. That’s what kept you going!

XCR-700 07-26-2020 11:29 AM

Small world, I work for the US DOT and most of my career has been supporting the FAA, and I've had some exposure to HEMS.

My group was responsible for creating the electronic MMEL's and the FSIMS system for the FAA Flight Standards ASI's

HEMS is tough and dangerous work. A truly noble profession.

Kudos for making 18 years in the air, that is an amazing record.

I cant imagine what you have seen and experienced and suffered through over the years.

Many Thanks for you service, it is truly one of the under-recognized public services that few think about, but when you need it, it is a life saving godsend. :cheers:

ATB

Jdarby 07-26-2020 06:05 PM

Air Tour of Winnipesaukee
 
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Originally Posted by XCR-700 (Post 339854)
Small world, I work for the US DOT and most of my career has been supporting the FAA, and I've had some exposure to HEMS.

My group was responsible for creating the electronic MMEL's and the FSIMS system for the FAA Flight Standards ASI's

HEMS is tough and dangerous work. A truly noble profession.

Kudos for making 18 years in the air, that is an amazing record.

I cant imagine what you have seen and experienced and suffered through over the years.

Many Thanks for you service, it is truly one of the under-recognized public services that few think about, but when you need it, it is a life saving godsend. :cheers:

ATB

Thank you for the kind words. I moved into our Safety Department a little over 10 years ago. So I now have a little over 28 years in the industry. We’re a large operator with about 330 aircraft in our medical fleet nationwide. I lost a couple of friends in crashes over the years and wanted to start doing something to stop those losses. Everyone flying those missions deserves to come home at the end of their shift. I hope you find your seaplane ride! Be well!

ApS 07-30-2020 01:03 PM

Rides...?
 
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Originally Posted by XCR-700 (Post 339828)
Yup, looks like just what I am hoping for, when they reopen,,,

THANKS!

He just flew over. Check today. :)

XCR-700 07-30-2020 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by ApS (Post 340219)
He just flew over. Check today. :)

Oh, outstanding, we have family coming again in late August, so there may be hope to get some of them up for a ride!

Many Thanks for the heads up! :)

Jdarby 07-31-2020 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by XCR-700 (Post 340257)
Oh, outstanding, we have family coming again in late August, so there may be hope to get some of them up for a ride!

Many Thanks for the heads up! :)

XCR...let us know how it goes! That’s a great idea for visitors and I wouldn’t mind the experience again myself!

XCR-700 07-31-2020 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Jdarby (Post 340306)
XCR...let us know how it goes! That’s a great idea for visitors and I wouldn’t mind the experience again myself!

Me too.

If I pull it off, I'll post pictures.

With a big grin!

Thanks - george


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