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bigdog 04-04-2016 11:13 AM

Auto gas tank fill neck?
 
I'm trying to add some additive into my gas tank.
Easy no-brainer right ? WRONG !

I suspect I am not the only one having this issue with new cars....
Car 2013 For Explorer XLT

The gas tank filler neck has a one-way cover, that opens when one inserts the gas pump nozzle. The issue I'm having is in the neck, I have discovered 2 metal tabs, one on each side, that get depressed and allows the pump nozzle to insert into the gas pipe that leads down into the tank.

I have tried using a funnel, etc but none work, because the 2 metal tabs in filler neck must be depressed simultaneously in order for one-way cover to open. I think the opening is 3/8", as half inch too small and three-quarters too big.

Ahhhhh the old days of cars, twist off the gas cap, and dump in the gas or anything else.

So, looking for suggestions......

Thanks in advance !

Winnisquamer 04-04-2016 11:23 AM

It's obviously another way for ford to make money off you. Please buy our special funnel. I will say I had an explorer as a rental car about a year back and after I pumped the gas I stood there for three or four minutes wondering to myself if I took the cap off or not, I think it's weird how these new cars don't have the traditional screw caps.

http://coolridesonline.net/news-blog...ss-fuel-tanks/

HellRaZoR004 04-04-2016 11:30 AM

Why are you adding anything to the gas (just curious).

Maybe HD or Lowes has a 13/16" pipe that will work?

phoenix 04-04-2016 11:38 AM

I do add gas stabilizer when cars are not being used over the winter to the car, boat and all gas cans. I luckily haven't had this problem

Skip 04-04-2016 11:38 AM

Emergency nozzle with spare
 
Look in your cargo compartment, rear. See if you have an emergency gas nozzle nestled with the spare.

Kamper 04-04-2016 11:49 AM

Put it in a portable can.

Lakeboater 04-04-2016 12:19 PM

With jack?
 
Check where your jack is stored. The F150s have the same type of fill neck and they come with a orange funnel in case you need to add gas in an emergency. Also I have been able to open it using my finger and then just using any funnel with a long end on it. Funnel might be located under back seat.

dpg 04-05-2016 11:03 AM

30.00 funnel from Ford.....Nice.....I've never seen this and don't understand even Wally Mart sells an extra long narrow funnel for like 2.00 that won't work??? Does the cap require what's put in there to be the exact size of a fuel pump? I don't get it.

SIKSUKR 04-05-2016 12:15 PM

From what I've read the vehicle should have one of those funnels on board and usually located with the jack.If not then here is low priced one($7) on Amazon with free shipping.
http://www.amazon.com/Ford-Mercury-L.../dp/B001H1PZ6U

TheProfessor 04-06-2016 08:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HellRaZoR004 (Post 259715)
Why are you adding anything to the gas (just curious).

Maybe HD or Lowes has a 13/16" pipe that will work?

Newer vehicles nothing.

Older vehicles Carb/Injector cleaner. And/or Marvel.

Replacing an engine fuel injector can be expensive. Carbon can build up over time.

Merrymeeting 04-07-2016 06:53 AM

FWIW, the market has responded. Bought a bottle of Stabil yesterday. They now have extra-long necks on the bottle that reach past the filler access door.

phoenix 04-07-2016 10:02 AM

well that will be helpful for next fall

WINNOCTURN 04-07-2016 10:16 AM

Some PumpsWill not work with these new fillers
 
There are some older Gilbarco Pumps that have a larger OD Nozzle and will not open the "Trap Door". There seams to be alot of these Pump in Mass.

Not sure of the Model, the story may have been on Chronicle?


WINNOCTURN

rscalzo 04-11-2016 07:19 PM

Quote:

Please buy our special funnel

Every Ford comes with one in the spare tire compartment. They are available in any auto supply store for a few dollars. DON'T try to force a gas can or a funnel in the filler without the adapter.

bigdog 04-12-2016 07:11 AM

Found it !
 
Found it ! :)

Exactly where some of you said it was, in spare tire compartment.

Thanks.

tummyman 04-12-2016 08:31 AM

So instead of fixing a poor design issue mid production by employing better engineering, the manufacturer's solution is to throw in a cheap plastic funnel into the spare tire compartment and have the vehicle owner play hide and seek to find it. Apparently there was not sufficient market research to collaborate the efficiency and practicality of the initial design before it went into production. Amateur response........

Merrymeeting 04-12-2016 08:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tummyman (Post 260196)
So instead of fixing a poor design issue mid production by employing better engineering, the manufacturer's solution is to throw in a cheap plastic funnel into the spare tire compartment and have the vehicle owner play hide and seek to find it. Apparently there was not sufficient market research to collaborate the efficiency and practicality of the initial design before it went into production. Amateur response........

How is it you conclude this is a poor design issue? I own a vehicle with this design and I like it. I no longer need to fumble with a filler cap, clicking it the right number of turns, etc. The no cap design is not a design flaw.

Winnisquamer 04-12-2016 09:16 AM

Although I will say the no cap needed may not be a bad design flaw the fact you cant fill gasoline on the fly with out a special filler is a bad design.

Sure eliminate the cap but make it work with out needing a special plastic funnel.

tummyman 04-12-2016 10:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Winnisquamer (Post 260200)
Although I will say the no cap needed may not be a bad design flaw the fact you cant fill gasoline on the fly with out a special filler is a bad design.

Sure eliminate the cap but make it work with out needing a special plastic funnel.

Exactly my point. Thank you.

Lakeboater 04-12-2016 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tummyman (Post 260203)
Exactly my point. Thank you.

The funnel isn't necessary when fueling from a gas pump. It is included with vehicle for use if you ran out of gas and needed to fill tank with a jug or to use additives. I believe it's purpose is to eliminate check engine lights from when fuel cap wasn't tight.


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