Speaking of DayMarks, this might help in a few spots...

The Commission's meeting scheduled for the 11th is being postponed for a week or two in order to allow the new interim chair to confirm that vacant seat on the Commission are being filled so that there will be a quorum. Please refer to the House calendar at the link provided for the rescheduled time. It is anticipated to only be a 2 week delay at most.

commission changes
 

Thanks for keeping us posted, Shore Things.
Two related bills have been filed. One to adjust membership and establish a quorum of 7. The second one will extend the report deadline from November 2019 to November 2020. That likely means any recommended changes will come as legislation in 2021, pass in June 2021 to be effective January 2022.

HB 219 relative to membership on the Structures on Non-tidal Public Waterways Commission.
HB 228 extending the commission to study the current statutes related to management of non-tidal public waterways and the construction or placement of structures within them.

Witches !
 

My first experience was WatereSkiing through rthe Witches and loosing one of the wood fins on my wood Water Skis which I still own. It was a scary experience! Went to Goodhue & Hawkins & after a little educatuion I bought my first Chart. This is now the STATE Location of theMarine Patrol ! still Boat on Winni. As a owner of Island proprety since 81 after renting before that. Lots of fond memorys. kerk

Wow!
 

I'm amazed that you damaged your skis, but not the boat. Yes, scary.
BTW, Goodhue and Hawkins Navy Yard is in Wolfeboro, still in business. Sounds like you bought your chart at Goodhue Boat Yard in Glendale, now the site of MP headquarters.

You guys weren't serious about a lighthouse on the Witches were you? Or were you???? I thought it was tongue in cheek.

The Commission can make recommendations on legislation at anytime; they don't have to wait until their final report is out. There is already an LSR (19-0768) in relative to creating a dock registration process. I fully expect them to be reviewing it and commenting on it. They could vote to ask the appropriate legislative committees to push it forward this year, recommend changes, or ask for it to be tabled for review. We'll have to see what happens but what ever it is the Commission's effect will start to be felt this session.

The group putting this idea forward is quite serious.

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How Massachusetts of them.

The deadline for signing off on LSRs/Bills was January 4th. Nobody rose, as far as I can see, to sponsor LSR 768 as a bill, so it is dead. Could come up as an amendment to something else, but unlikely. I stand by my estimate that nothing will happen soon.

Are you sure they are from Massachusetts? Sometimes I get tired of people jumping to this conclusion....

Now having said that... I will absolutely laugh if we start seeing lighthouses on the lake in area's like the Witches... Because once that happens, I see one on Middle ground shoal.... The Graveyard... etc.....

With the charts and electronics available to aide in navigation... people are just not paying attention when they wander into these area's....

Lighten up. It was a joke.

Why not ask the Margate to give back the one that was at the "White Owl Cabins" It would certainly help keep the cost down. I don't think they are using it at the Margate any more. While I'm certainly not sure they are the same exact light house...... I'd have a hard time believing they are not especially when it was essentially right across the street at one time.

https://i.imgur.com/JEBJN7O.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/FFH2BOf.jpg

Reference White Owl Cabins Thread
https://www.winnipesaukee.com/forums...t=White+cabins

LSR 768 is now HB 645-FN
http://www.gencourt.state.nh.us/lsr_...?id=821&type=4

Some way some how, someone will still hit it.

bent prop award
 

I want to guess that there are more bent props between Little Island and Big Island, or between Chase and Farm Island than there are on the Witches. Some people just deserve the bent prop award and nothing anybody does will prevent them from getting that trophy. And they will claim to their death that the buoy wasn't in the right place.

Brand new to the forum but certainly not the lake. I hate to be negative but in my opinion i think a good start is bizer making a proper chart. Not a placemat.

Not sure what your post means. Bizer does make regular charts that are available through this website as well as many other places.

Welcome
 

Sandyisl, Welcome to the Forum. I'm not sure either what your post means, but the Bizer chart is available in many formats, paper, laminated, digital, etc. Many other publishers have, over the years, published in a variety of formats as well. Some of the posters here look askance at new posters who are only negative, so please be aware. We all try to be friendly with only a few trolls.

I know...
 

If you go to Olde Bay Dinner in Alton Bay, the tables have charts over the surface of the table, and have for years. These are NOT special charts made as placemats, they are actual Bizer charts. Makes for interesting conversation.

Dave

I keep asking but nobody ever answers. Does Duncan still make charts? (Maybe nobody knows.)

I think most of us aren't sure. The Duncan Press website is down and I don't have any other information. If I hear anything I'll post it here.

Thank you so much for the reply! I have been curious about what happened to them and also looked on the website and found nothing. You would think they would say something on there. Maybe they only print them every few years?

Google it
 

10:15 am Jan.24 2019
I Googled: "Duncan Lake Winnipesaukee Chart" That took me to a page that offers several Duncan chart-like products. Clicked on one and it took me to a product page, described the product and offered to 'add it to my cart'. I didn't want it so I left the store.
There are a few entries that announce August 1, 2018, Duncan "officially approved' their new chart. Those also indicatew that online is their only store. If you click on these, the response is access denied.
to this page. I like to Google before I ask on this or other forums, and I appreciate that the Webmaster often does this for us. Thank you.

I have googled it a few time in the past couple years too because I wondered what happened to them. I felt I didn't get a real answer either, that is why I asked. I know somebody that actually tried to order one on line and they weren't able to get one. That was a year ago or so.

N H State Government
 

I sent on nh.gov and the are no reports since around 2003-4 for Duncan Press Inc. Sally Fichett is the agent with a mail address in Center Harbor and business address in AZ.

Interesting that it is so hard to get to their website.

Dave

So maybe they are not even doing business any more?! It IS interesting, isn't it? I am getting a warning now that it's not a safe site. I think they were around before Bizer weren't they?

Duncan or a predec essor?
 

I have at my desk a PUC chart published in 1962. Blue water and beige land. For awhile, I recall a white water/green land chart being available, in the 60's, I think simultaneously with the PUC chart published and distributed by the Capital Offset Company. I don't know if that green/white one was Duncan or if there was another publisher that was taken over by Duncan. I still have one on the boat, but I use it for guests to follow along, not really for up to date navigation. For navigation, I don't think there's any question Bizer is the most accurate and up to date.
As a matter of interest, there were only 59 flashers in 1962 and it lists several headway speed locations, including 10 mph between Varney and Kenison Islands, 12 mph between Loon and Meredith Neck and 12 mph south of the "marine bandstand" in Alton Bay.
To return to discussion of the Witches and a lighthouse, in 1962, only two flashers marked "Witch Rocks", #27 to the south and #28 next to Timber Island.

Today's LaDaSun
 

They must be reading the forum. :emb:

I thought that too Bigg.

I've been watching it unfold on Facebook. I have been hoping this was just satire as I am having a hard time believing that anyone would actually support this....

Spoof?
 

They're serving fruitcake and Kool-Ade for refreshments. The papers will report it as "heavily supported by the attendees" because serious boaters won't show up. Maybe some abutters will show up to prevent the light flashing in their living room every 6 seconds?

To A Point
 

Perhaps it could be built in the shape of a huge witch hat. 🐻

Dumb!
 

Dumb, dumb, dumb!

I cannot believe the state is even considering this dumbass idea!

Dan

I agree! Stay out of The Witches! If you don't know the hazard by now, you never will!

Public Hearing
 

I for one will attend the public hearing in Gilford on the 26th. I will voice my opinion that more lighted buoys would be a more cost effective means of warning off boaters from The Witches.

A lighthouse sounds cool, maybe even a bit of a tourist attraction, but to mark The Graveyard Of Lower Units And Props, maybe not.

Light?
 

Although there really aren't, to my knowledge, many accidents on the Witches, I bet the predominant number occur during the day.

I honestly think middle ground shoals is way more dangerous than the witches since it occurs in the broads and kinda comes out of nowhere. Though neither should be intimidating to any boater with a map!

Dan