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Pricestavern 04-20-2009 11:56 AM

Nice!
 
Give a wave as your blasting past the south end of Rattlesnake!

OCDACTIVE 04-20-2009 12:56 PM

will do but best to keep her down the middle. Closer to land the better chance of a radar gun. :eek:

Boater 04-20-2009 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by OCDACTIVE (Post 93025)
I highly doubt they will be sitting in the middle of the broads gunning people. So I will just take my chances :eek::D

Do you realize that the Marine Patrol reads this forum? You've showed them pictures of your boat and made it clear that you intend to come here (from NY?) and intentionally disregard the law.

I've said before that I don't expect the SL to be strictly enforced. It's one thing to open it up a little when no one is around but you've thrown down the gauntlet and challenged them to stop you. If I were a MP officer I know I'd be watching for you. :rolleye2:

OCDACTIVE 04-20-2009 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Boater (Post 93063)
Do you realize that the Marine Patrol reads this forum? You've showed them pictures of your boat and made it clear that you intend to come here (from NY?) and intentionally disregard the law.

I've said before that I don't expect the SL to be strictly enforced. It's one thing to open it up a little when no one is around but you've thrown down the gauntlet and challenged them to stop you. If I were a MP officer I know I'd be watching for you. :rolleye2:

Do you honestly think that a Go fast boat in general is not a target? If one or two posts get me in trouble then I would be amazed. I think and hope they have bigger things to worry about.

But you could be right and you could be saying "I told you so" Only time will tell.

Cheers.

rander7823 04-20-2009 03:08 PM

Now If I were the MP
 
Just to drum up a little extra cash flow...I'd sit where I expect people to break the law....so that would be in the Broad's

Two boat team one gun one out waiting to pull you over....just like the State Police on the highways.

Good Luck out there

OCDACTIVE 04-20-2009 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by rander7823 (Post 93072)
Just to drum up a little extra cash flow...I'd sit where I expect people to break the law....so that would be in the Broad's

Two boat team one gun one out waiting to pull you over....just like the State Police on the highways.

Good Luck out there


I see your point, but wouldn't you think that they would be where the complaints have come from? especially where the test zones were?

Bear Island, Sleepers, Weirs Bay etc?

From what I understand is that they work best when in a "fixed" or steady position. That is why on Lake George they have a platform on a point where the radar gun is fixed with a boat waiting to go. This apparently is the most accurate which has held up in court.

The Broads harder place to enforce due to distance and constant movement.

I am again totally against them "obviously" but the best positions I would think are at the point of the bays or off an island. The tip of Wolfboro Bay, Alton, Bear Island etc.

Not trying to drum up the SL crowd, but just speaking of the enforcment issue as a whole.

SIKSUKR 04-21-2009 09:43 AM

The biggest problem will be the exact direction the boat traveling relative to the radar.The gun will always show a slower speed if the boat is not coming/leaving in a direct path.If there is an angle,unless it is adjusted for,the reading will be slower.There are a lot of variables in trying to take radar readings from a bobbing boat with different approach angles.This will give laywers some fuel to discredit readings.Time will tell.

Sman 04-21-2009 09:54 AM

fines
 
in topic with the SL part of this, does anyone know what the fines for speeding are

It is my understanding that it caries over to you drivers license, but I have not read anything about fines

and keeping in topic with the orginal post, nice boat

Dave R 04-21-2009 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by SIKSUKR (Post 93133)
The biggest problem will be the exact direction the boat traveling relative to the radar.The gun will always show a slower speed if the boat is not coming/leaving in a direct path.If there is an angle,unless it is adjusted for,the reading will be slower.There are a lot of variables in trying to take radar readings from a bobbing boat with different approach angles.This will give laywers some fuel to discredit readings.Time will tell.

Distance will be a factor too. It's hard to get a good return from a long distance. The key to avoiding a speeding ticket, should one opt to ignore the speed limit, is to avoid heading directly toward other boats, and to stay well away from other boats. Not bad advice SL or not....

cowisl 04-21-2009 12:40 PM

The broads is massive...and its not like you cant tell a cop boat from miles away. best of luck enforcing this pointless rule... anyway, nice ride OCD

Ms Molly McKever 04-21-2009 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by OCDACTIVE (Post 92366)
Just bought her yesterday.. Look forward to seeing you all out there!!!!


Your boat looks great, nice and clean, best of luck
but I hope she not a YANKEE FAN (ny6422fs0:laugh:

Dave R 04-22-2009 05:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Ms Molly McKever (Post 93205)
Your boat looks great, nice and clean, best of luck
but I hope she not a YANKEE FAN (ny6422fs0:laugh:

Good Golly, I should hope not!

Dave R 04-22-2009 05:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Dave R (Post 93208)
Good Golly, I should hope not!

Sorry, but someone HAD to...

OCDACTIVE 04-22-2009 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Ms Molly McKever (Post 93205)
Your boat looks great, nice and clean, best of luck
but I hope she not a YANKEE FAN (ny6422fs0:laugh:

No way.. She has been trending towards Boston since she was built. She now finally feels at home.. Hey I figure a championship boat deserves a championship team.. :eek:

Actually now that I think of it........ Sox, Pats, Celts and even the Bruins.. Yup she is happy to be home.. :D

OCDACTIVE 08-05-2009 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Boater (Post 93063)
Do you realize that the Marine Patrol reads this forum? You've showed them pictures of your boat and made it clear that you intend to come here (from NY?) and intentionally disregard the law.

I've said before that I don't expect the SL to be strictly enforced. It's one thing to open it up a little when no one is around but you've thrown down the gauntlet and challenged them to stop you. If I were a MP officer I know I'd be watching for you. :rolleye2:

Well, I didn't get pulled over this year............ Unfortunately the reason was I wasn't out there as much as initally planned. I got to use her for 12 hours on lake... I tested her out (read into that as you will) and I got to live my dream of driving her into the Weirs Channel then over to the Naswa.....

This was short lived however because the 3rd weekend of June when I was prepping her for Virginia I suddenly had some power loss issues with oil coming out the intake of the supercharger.. Needless to say I wasn't happy.

After much diagnosis, she needs a rebuild. So instead of racing her in Virginia I got to be a passenger.

Towing her down to VA this October for a complete rebuild and hopefully a new paint job.. She will be ready to rock next season.. So back to dreaming again!!

OCDACTIVE 08-05-2009 05:58 PM

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Running as a passenger in VA.... Would have preferred to be driving but still an absolute Great time.. Would love to get shots like this on Lake Winni...

OCDACTIVE 09-20-2009 04:10 PM

Well, got the supercharger pulled and sold!!!! rewaxed and got her ready for her big pull to VA!...

As long as there is no castisrophic failure.... the boat will be back next April with a new engine, throttle, GPS, gauges, and PAINT JOB...

Can't wait to see you all out there...

Even EL in his sailboat.... :D

robmac 09-22-2009 08:03 AM

Any ideas yet on new power plant? Can't wait to see her out on the water again.

OCDACTIVE 09-22-2009 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by robmac (Post 107047)
Any ideas yet on new power plant? Can't wait to see her out on the water again.

Well we think it will be the same engine. 500 EFI. however I removed the supercharger. Although I liked going 87mph, I would prefer having longevity and dependability on the engine year to year.... I know some about engines but not enough to do rebuilds on my own. So once this one is all done I should be good for 500 hrs before anything major needs to be done. I will only top off around 72 -74 depending on the conditions and what prop. But the nice part is I could go WOT and not do any damage to the engine what so ever....

Thanks I can't wait either. If it is not a catisrophic failure I will have a new paint job as well.

VtSteve 09-22-2009 08:37 AM

That's the best course OCD. That boat can do great through waves and big chop at 40 to 50 all day long. That's pretty much what I want. The base 525 or even less is plenty. I don't need a full time mechanic or extra engines and parts in my storage either. I was surprised at the relative low use of fuel for some of these boats. It's all about RPM's and the hull's efficiency. The Formula 290SS I looked at had only twin 350's, but they were pushing a nearly 9000 pound boat :eek: Topped out at 57 mph, but drank quite a bit of fuel at around 28 gph if I remember correctly. That's more than many cruisers.

Good luck with the new power, I think you're making the smart move.

jst_4_kiks 09-22-2009 08:52 AM

found you a new engine and drive package. will set you back about $125000 or so. :D:D:D:coolsm::coolsm:

http://www.mercuryracing.com/_media/...075sci_lar.jpg

God I love big horsepower engines. twin superchargers, Bravo One X-Racing Drive,

OCDACTIVE 09-22-2009 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by jst_4_kiks (Post 107062)
found you a new engine and drive package. will set you back about $125000 or so. :D:D:D:coolsm::coolsm:

http://www.mercuryracing.com/_media/...075sci_lar.jpg

God I love big horsepower engines. twin superchargers, Bravo One X-Racing Drive,

Yup I've seen those.. Gorgeous engine.... Why not add a whipple and surface drive while we are at it?

OCDACTIVE 09-22-2009 08:58 AM

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here's mine before the supercharger was removed

jst_4_kiks 09-23-2009 11:28 PM

looks like a tight fit infront of the engine. moddify theseat a lil for the blower? or was it like that when you bought it? good luck in your replacement and happy boating

OCDACTIVE 09-24-2009 06:48 AM

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Originally Posted by jst_4_kiks (Post 107293)
looks like a tight fit infront of the engine. moddify theseat a lil for the blower? or was it like that when you bought it? good luck in your replacement and happy boating

The Blower was on it when I bought it and yes it had been modified. the blower is off now and I will be getting that repaired. You would believe the amount of room there is now to get in there to work on her.

OCDACTIVE 09-24-2009 02:02 PM

I just found out that the boat I test drove that made me fall in love with mine is up for sale!.. Exact same boat and year. Only difference is it has twin 350 small blocks. Trust me when I say I would have jumped on this if it were up for sale last year.

It is one of only two 28 Active Thunders ever built. If you like mine and want the info. PM me.

VtSteve 09-24-2009 03:40 PM

For a boat your size and that beam, I'm positive I'd rather have a 525 single than twin 350's. Do you mean an AT28 with twins OCD? Because the 28 Savage is an active design now, until they go to a 29.

Wolfeboro_Baja 09-24-2009 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by OCDACTIVE (Post 102037)
This was short lived however because the 3rd weekend of June when I was prepping her for Virginia I suddenly had some power loss issues with oil coming out the intake of the supercharger.. Needless to say I wasn't happy.

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Originally Posted by OCDACTIVE (Post 107054)
Well we think it will be the same engine. 500 EFI. however I removed the supercharger. Although I liked going 87mph, I would prefer having longevity and dependability on the engine year to year....

I wonder if the oil coming out of your supercharger was the lube oil from the supercharger?!? Maybe your engine isn't as far gone as it looks!! Good luck with the rebuild; I'm looking forward to seeing some hot graphics on that hull!! :)


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Originally Posted by OCDACTIVE (Post 107064)
Yup I've seen those.. Gorgeous engine.... Why not add a whipple and surface drive while we are at it?

No Whipple; remember, engine longevity is the goal!! Besides, that Mercruiser 1075 already has 2 twin-screw superchargers on it; three would be overkill!! Now, about the surface piercing drive?? Definitely a plus to have!! If I could afford it, I'd have an Arneson surface drive on my Baja! Everything I've read says a surface drive really delivers when it comes to fuel savings and adding to your top end speed! :)

onlywinni 09-24-2009 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by OCDACTIVE (Post 107054)
Well we think it will be the same engine. 500 EFI. however I removed the supercharger. Although I liked going 87mph, I would prefer having longevity and dependability on the engine year to year.... I know some about engines but not enough to do rebuilds on my own. So once this one is all done I should be good for 500 hrs before anything major needs to be done. I will only top off around 72 -74 depending on the conditions and what prop. But the nice part is I could go WOT and not do any damage to the engine what so ever....

Thanks I can't wait either. If it is not a catisrophic failure I will have a new paint job as well.


Dont you mean you will top out at 45mph :laugh:

Love the boat...looks bad ass

I am a supercharger guy, but have fought the urge in the Baja for now...reliable power is better than silly, but unreliable power. Although I cant rule out a Whipple on the 496HO someday :rolleye2:

Good luck with the rebuild...next season we will have to go for a blast across the broads at a steady 45mph

OCDACTIVE 09-24-2009 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by onlywinni (Post 107349)
Dont you mean you will top out at 45mph :laugh:

Love the boat...looks bad ass

I am a supercharger guy, but have fought the urge in the Baja for now...reliable power is better than silly, but unreliable power. Although I cant rule out a Whipple on the 496HO someday :rolleye2:

Good luck with the rebuild...next season we will have to go for a blast across the broads at a steady 45mph


Just from what I have heard around the boards.. The whipples do A LOT more damage then pro chargers.. I am staying away from both.

OCDACTIVE 09-25-2009 05:54 AM

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Originally Posted by VtSteve (Post 107344)
For a boat your size and that beam, I'm positive I'd rather have a 525 single than twin 350's. Do you mean an AT28 with twins OCD? Because the 28 Savage is an active design now, until they go to a 29.

Hey Steve, I don't follow...

Do you mean an AT28 with twins OCD?

Yes that is a 1999 Active Thunder 28 Savage.. Same as mine with twin small blocks. It runs awesome... The beam is fine.

He will make the 28's if asked but I hear the molds are forsale as well.

onlywinni 09-25-2009 07:05 AM

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Originally Posted by OCDACTIVE (Post 107351)
Just from what I have heard around the boards.. The whipples do A LOT more damage then pro chargers.. I am staying away from both.


I have read that too, but there are a few guys that have been running them for years with no problems. I would not do it, until I was prepared to build the motor..but as of now I am broke and need to pay off this boat before I try blowing it up!!!!!

OCDACTIVE 09-25-2009 07:10 AM

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Originally Posted by onlywinni (Post 107379)
I have read that too, but there are a few guys that have been running them for years with no problems. I would not do it, until I was prepared to build the motor..but as of now I am broke and need to pay off this boat before I try blowing it up!!!!!

I heard the same thing about prochargers.. Too much work for too little power... You need to really upgrade everything in the engine Rods, pistions etc.. you need to lower compression ratios.. Technically you need to build a new engine to handle the whipples or prochargers. Frankly for the amount it will cost for the actual unit, the upgrades to the engine and outdrive, and upkeep it is just easier and possibly less expensive to just go buy a bigger engine.... 650 maybe? :D

OCDACTIVE 10-22-2009 07:40 AM

engine is out...
 
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hopefully will know what the malfunction is soon!

BroadHopper 10-22-2009 08:28 AM

Built correctly for the power.
 
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Originally Posted by OCDACTIVE (Post 107380)
I heard the same thing about prochargers.. Too much work for too little power... You need to really upgrade everything in the engine Rods, pistions etc.. you need to lower compression ratios.. Technically you need to build a new engine to handle the whipples or prochargers. Frankly for the amount it will cost for the actual unit, the upgrades to the engine and outdrive, and upkeep it is just easier and possibly less expensive to just go buy a bigger engine.... 650 maybe? :D

You are correct. I had a dragster back in the 70's and have worked on engines for both bracket racing and circle tracks. At one time, I had a 1975 21' Raysoncraft with a 640 blown Ford by Holman and Moody in California. The blower was a whipple charger. Holman and Moody replace practically all moving parts with racing equivalents. It was a great setup.

My choice for engine rebuilder today will be Teague Marine in California. When I bought my Formula, the 7.4 litre engine was tired and the valves were tuliped. I replace it with a bobtail 454 Magnum from Mercury. That way I had a 2 year waranty on the motor and was able to 'drop in' the engine. After breaking it in, I didn't like the way it sounds as it seems to be skipping and at times, 'running on 7 cylinders'. A number of good mechanics around the lake could not figure out what is wrong. I finally gave Bob Teague a call. I was surprised to get 'the man' on the phone. He made several suggestions over the phone and is extremely knowledgable. After replacing the stock coil and wires with Jacobs brand. It ran great! Then I replace the needles in the carb with ones that he reccomended, as well as replace the prop with a Revolution 4 blade. It had literally woke up the boat. I am having a blast! If you need technical advise, I would give him a call!

OCDACTIVE 10-25-2009 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by VtSteve (Post 107344)
For a boat your size and that beam, I'm positive I'd rather have a 525 single than twin 350's. Do you mean an AT28 with twins OCD? Because the 28 Savage is an active design now, until they go to a 29.

VTsteve, my buddy just lowered the price on the 28 with twins.. Let me know if you would like the info.

VtSteve 10-25-2009 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by OCDACTIVE (Post 109915)
VTsteve, my buddy just lowered the price on the 28 with twins.. Let me know if you would like the info.

I wish I were in the market OCD, but not. I'm getting murdered in taxes :(

As I have no tow vehicle, I'd probably have to include something in the total for that as well for that type of boat.

Overall, I'd be happier in a big cuddy like the 275 Chap. (again up for sale as a very lightly used boat) . I like to cruise around, overnight, that sort of thing.

Lucky1 10-25-2009 10:51 AM

Why not just follow the rules ???
 
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Originally Posted by Boater (Post 93063)
Do you realize that the Marine Patrol reads this forum? You've showed them pictures of your boat and made it clear that you intend to come here (from NY?) and intentionally disregard the law.

I've said before that I don't expect the SL to be strictly enforced. It's one thing to open it up a little when no one is around but you've thrown down the gauntlet and challenged them to stop you. If I were a MP officer I know I'd be watching for you. :rolleye2:

Don't we all want a safe lake for all? I mean why boast about breaking the rules? Not a good example for young people either.

OCDACTIVE 10-25-2009 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Lucky1 (Post 109920)
Don't we all want a safe lake for all? I mean why boast about breaking the rules? Not a good example for young people either.

Safety has nothing to do with it.. If you read back on this and other threads, there hasn't been one instance that speed was the leading contributer to an accident.

Education and enforcement of exisiting laws is the answer..

PS. Welcome to the forums.

elchase 10-25-2009 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Lucky1 (Post 109920)
Don't we all want a safe lake for all? I mean why boast about breaking the rules? Not a good example for young people either.

Lucky1,
Welcome to boating in NH, where traveling at high speeds in multi-ton brakeless vehicles magically becomes safe. Don't you know that the Speed Limit Law was not really about safety? It was really just an attempt by a few wealthy Democratic land barons to ban a certain type of boat from "their" lake. So it is perfectly acceptable and safe for 16 year olds who have passed a 50 question internet test on channel markers and anchor line length to ignore the Speed Limit if they do not like it. ;)

PS: only kidding.


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