Moose poacher arrested
MOOSE POACHER ARRESTED AND CHARGED AFTER ANONYMOUS OPERATION GAME THIEF TIP
Wolfeboro, N.H. -- NH Fish and Game Conservation Officers became aware of an illegally killed moose in Wolfeboro, N.H., through an anonymous Operation Game Thief tip on Saturday, October 25th, 2014. An investigation on Sunday, October 26th, 2014 by Conservation Officers and Wolfeboro Police located a 40-gallon tub filled with fresh moose meat at the residence of Barry Caswell of York Road in Wolfeboro. The carcass of a young cow moose was also unearthed on the property, having been buried three feet in the ground and covered by a six-foot brush pile. Caswell admitted to poaching the moose on his property and using his excavator to bury the remains. He has been arrested and charged with a Class B misdemeanor for the taking of a moose out of season as well as paying a $1,000 restitution to the state. This incident highlights how anyone can help Conservation Officers protect the wildlife and natural resources of New Hampshire. Conservation Officers want to remind the public to report any suspicious wildlife-related activity to the Operation Game Thief program. Information can be left anonymously 24 hours a day, seven days a week, 365 days a year by phone at 1-800-344-4262 or by visiting the Operation Game Thief website at wildnh.com/OGT/ . |
Thanks for posting. I know him.
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Good....Glad they got him.
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I don't condone or approve of poaching but I have a hard time wrapping my brain around the argument that the state can control what you hunt and don't hunt on your own property. I approve of laws that would disallow baiting, particularly on your own land to "draw" animals to your land, but can someone help me understand how this law can be justified?
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Pineedles -- I am having the same "scratch my head in Awe" kind of moment
Although Apples to Oranges -- the only thing I can equate it to is Geese ! They wonder up and destroy my lawn, are by all agreement a filthy varmint, yet I can't take a shot at one! . |
Animal control can't be left up to the property owner. If everyone could hunt on their own property and shoot whatever they wanted, there wouldn't be any animals left.
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Common law from way back says wild animals belong to the state. So they can require a license for you to take them.
I guess you could build a moose farm on your land, fence it off and populate it with legally obtained moose, maybe even breed them. Then you could say they were yours otherwise they belong to the state. The other troubling for Mister Caswell beyond his legal issues, he has someone he trusted to tell about his deed, that he should not have. |
This is the exact reason!!!
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Most of the land is owned by private land owners, this includes corporations, not the state. If all land owners had the right to kill what ever animal is on their land, just how long would the moose/deer/whatever exist in the state. Many years ago when you didn't require a license to hunt and the animals were not protected by laws of hunting season, sex (can't shoot does ) without a special permit you could walk all day and not cross their tracks. Then the state and hunters came together and put in the hunting laws. The population of critters has come back to levels not seen since the 1600's. Without the laws you would not have game animals. ToW |
I don't know. How many people would want to shoot animals on their own land? I know I wouldn't. (Except the geese that I hate. And I really wouldn't shoot them either much as I might want to.) I bet a lot of others wouldn't either. Of course there are a lot that would. My bet is though, is that if only landowners could shoot on their own property, the population would not be low.
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property rights
Nice replies! I think a lot of people confuse the meaning private property rights. My understanding is that the constitution gives citizens the right to protect their property from damage, theft, and government appropriation without just compensation. It does not mean that you have the right to do whatever you want on your private property.
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Thanks all for your contributions. Moose farm? OK, I'm good with that. Game belongs to the state? Insert the Sheriff of Nottingham or King instead of state and its the same thing. Maybe its the libertarian in me. Also, not sure if all the game being killed scenario would play out as it did in the past. Things are a lot different than in the past. Many more supermarkets today. :laugh: There could still be rules about shooting within a certain distance from a building, minimum acreage for rifle, etc.
I see Mr. Caswell is 71 years old and probably on a fixed income, hope he didn't need the meat to survive. |
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Mr. Caswell has @ 160 acres of wooded land.
Need I say anymore. ;) |
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If you have more than 10A of undeveloped land, say forested or farm land fields, you can apply to have the land taxed based on the "current use value". The current use value of the land would be much less for forest land than say highest and best use like a sub-division. This results in much lower taxes and is to encourage the preservation of forest and farm land. If and when the land is developed then a "land use change tax" penalty must be paid, 10% of the developed land (house lots) value. This tax revenue can in turn (local town option) go into a conservation fund to help preserve other undeveloped land. |
Thank you Slick for explaining to Rusty.
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Thanks for the explanation Slickcraft .
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I don't condone what Mr. Caswell did but my educated guess is he doesn't have a lot of money and he shot the moose to eat. The area where he has land isn't that desirable but 160 acres is 160 acres so who knows what the value totals. In any event, he has paid the price as his reputation is permanently marred and he is out $1,000 bucks. He probably should invest in a silencer for his gun and a zipper for his mouth. Not a good week for the moose or Mr. Caswell! |
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Seems to me that to a "libertarian" that would be big Government intruding on YOUR rights to do what you want on YOUR property. Just a question.:) ToW |
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The guy was obviously on hard times. If he shot the moose for sport, I would agree that it was wrong, but, jeez...cut the guy a break. He was trying to put food on the table.
Shame on the person that reported him and shame on fish and game for not looking the other way on this one. |
Things like this keep reminding me of the day when people shot animals to live, they didn't go to the grocery store. What a change in this country in a relatively short time huh? What would those people think if they saw our grocery stores today?
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Really Rusty? This is an apples to oranges comparison. I guess common sense doesn't prevail.
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Is he down to his last penny and needed the meat so he could stay alive? I don't know the guy other then he has a $$$lot of land$$$ and used an $$$excavator$$$$ to move the Moose around. I'm wiling to give anyone help if they will ask for it or really need it. But if they break the law before asking then they are on their own. |
Without taking sides on the poaching issue I'd like to share a thought with the posters here.
I spent my career in a business that carried on a constant war to keep employee theft to a minimum. Throughout the years, management systems and technologies were honed to keep the thieves at bay. One day as a colleague and I were discussing this challenge, he asked "why do these people keep stealing?" Without thought I blurted out: "It's easy to be good when it's easy to be good." Having always had warm shelter, food and clothing, one might assume that stealing is something one would never do. That might change if circumstances dictate. |
Does it really matter?
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He broke the law plain and simple. Now he'll pay the consequences. ToW |
Moose poacher
Now I'm really confused. How did this guy go from being a poacher to a down and out honest fellow who had to shoot the moose to survive?
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There are a lot of comments in the posts both in favor and against this gentleman. All the posts except one are speculative with many "maybe's" "I believe's" "if's" and so on.
The only factual post is the first one. There are laws to protect wildlife. This man broke the law, was caught doing so and must now face the consequences. Rich, poor, democrat, republican, old, young, whatever....the laws apply to all of us equally. I do have some empathy for him if indeed he was truly in need of the meat from this kill to feed himself and his family. If that is the case, perhaps the judge will show some leniency and forgive at least some of the fine. |
On the New Hampshire Operation Game Thief facebook page they posted the head of the Moose that the poacher buried.
I would have to be pretty down and out to do this to an animal. I posted the picture but it was too graphic for some people and I apologize. Here is the facebook address that I got it from...you must have a facebook account to open it up: https://www.facebook.com/NewHampshireOperationGameThief |
is it really necessary???
Is it really necessary to post the dead moose head? REALLY?
After having just finished a nice snack I hopped on this site and when I opened this thread I had this gross picture on all 23" of my screen. Snack is not sitting very well right now! Maybe post a link with a warning "graphic photos" next time... |
thank you
Thank you Rusty! :)
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Do you eat meat? Have you ever been to a slaughter house? I'm fairly certain your answers to these questions are yes and no, in that order. So if you think about it, you indirectly did something last week, and the week before that, and the week before that, to animals that was quite similar to what happened to Mr. Caswell's moose. However, you didn't see it so you think it didn't happen, but it did. |
OK, you guys win...Mr. Caswell needed the meat and that's the end of the story.
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I suppose the shooter should have said the moose attacked his livestock and then buried it! He can defend his livestock according to law :eek: |
I'm not a hunter or familiar with NH hunting laws but if he was hungry and he own 122 acres, isn't there legal game he could take?
I have a few acres down here in Hollis and you can't throw a stick without hitting a turkey or squirrel. |
Maybe it's the NRA pin on my hat?
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I see no problem shooting a firearm next to his house unless his neighbors are closer than 300 ft. |
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Did he get to keep the meat? |
Meter "recalbration"
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Your sarcasm meter might need a recalibration.:D ToW |
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